Planning to build a devil's canyon :twisted:

Raghul

Broken In
Final Build:

ProcessorIntel Core i5 6600k18,250
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X3,090
MotherboardMSI Z170 Gaming M517,300
MemoryG.Skill RipjawsV DDR4 8GB 2133Mhz X 1 RAM3,875
Power SupplyCooler Master Thunder 600W4,700
CabinetCorsair SPEC-02
3,675
Tota50,890

Assembled it myself. this was my first time assembling. Everything went good but, the cpu cooler was a bit headache. sorted it out with the help of youtube. finally its up and running with no issues. Idle cpu temps are around 34-35 and while gaming(Intel HD530) it reaches upto 55.

I am planning to add a fan and an SSD sooner and a GPU later(looking for best deals for gtx970 4GB).

Thank you all for the information and suggestions.
 
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bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Budget - 65k (Modified)

ProcessorIntel Core i5 6600K 18,900
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X3,000
MotherboardAsus Z170-K13,400
MemoryG.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB 2133MHz DDR45,000
Graphics CardAsus Strix GTX 960 2GB15,500
Power SupplySeasonic M12II 520w5,900
CabinetCorsair SPEC-013,500
Total65,200
 

Lincon_WD

WD Official
Hi Raghul,
For a gaming rig in this budget, then you go with the bssunilreddy’s configuration.
In my thought, the future proof rig has the latest CPU and the new MOBO with the latest technology. For most future proofing rig use the overclocking CPU to gain the upper limit velocity as per game or usage demands.
In short, for future proofing, your main focus should be on the CPU and MOBO.

Hope it helps.
 
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Raghul

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Re: Planning to build a devil's canyon

Hi Raghul,
For a gaming rig in this budget, then you go with the bssunilreddy’s configuration.
In my thought, the future proof rig has the latest CPU and the new MOBO with the latest technology. For most future proofing rig use the overclocking CPU to gain the upper limit velocity as per game or usage demands.
In short, for future proofing, your main focus should be on the CPU and MOBO.

Hope it helps.
I agree with your suggestion. I am opting for the latest cpu and overclockabe mobo.

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I have decided to go with this config. am confused about the psu , ie. Seasonic M12II 520w . it doesn't have the reviews or its released few years back. Is there any other psu suggestions. what's your opininon on corsair vs series? I have decided to add the Graphics Card in the future(3-4 months).
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
Budget - 65k (Modified)

ProcessorIntel Core i5 6600K 18,900
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X3,000
MotherboardAsus Z170-K13,400
MemoryG.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB 2133MHz DDR45,000
Graphics Card
Power SupplySeasonic M12II 520w5,900
CabinetCorsair SPEC-013,500
Total65,200

[TD]Asus Strix GTX 960 2GB[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15,500
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Asus GTX 960 Strix for Rs 15,500 where? Please provide the link or the phone number of the store.
 

isaac12345

Journeyman
Budget - 65k (Modified)

ProcessorIntel Core i5 6600K 18,900
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X3,000
MotherboardAsus Z170-K13,400
MemoryG.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB 2133MHz DDR45,000
Graphics CardAsus Strix GTX 960 2GB15,500
Power SupplySeasonic M12II 520w5,900
CabinetCorsair SPEC-013,500
Total65,200

Good choice of CPU, GPU,motherboard and RAM. But the 128GB SSD is missing as asked by the OP

Also, I would not go for the 2gb version of the geforce 960 but the 4gb version as it does make a difference as shown here - Nvidia GeForce GTX 960 2GB vs 4GB review • Eurogamer.net RPG games( and other open world games) would benefit from more memory,especially when you try the myriad mods available for RPG games.

Also the case is ugly! Try another one.

Also do check out paytm. They have some good discounts sometime.
 
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Raghul

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this is what I came up with so far, give me suggestions.


ProcessorIntel Core i5 6600k18,800
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X2,900
MotherboardAsus Z170 Pro Gaming14,980
MemoryG.Skill RipjawsV DDR4 F4-2666C15D-8GVR 8GB RAM5,650
Power SupplySeasonic M12II 520w5,600
CabinetCorsair SPEC-02
4,100
Total52,030

Pro Gaming series motherboard comes with better Audio Codec - Realtek ALC1150(optimized).

*prices are from primrabgb and theitdepot.
 
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Lincon_WD

WD Official
[MENTION=162515]Raghul[/MENTION]

For PSU, you can go with any brand; based on your budget but the minimum requirement of 600W for future up-gradation.
 

isaac12345

Journeyman
[MENTION=162515]Raghul[/MENTION]

For PSU, you can go with any brand; based on your budget but the minimum requirement of 600W for future up-gradation.

I would strongly disagree. The PSU is one component you should never compromise on. If you end up with a bad one it can likely damage your components. Have a look at this - *www.hardwaresecrets.com/why-99-percent-of-power-supply-reviews-are-wrong/
 

REDHOTIRON2004

Journeyman
Good choice of CPU, GPU,motherboard and RAM. But the 128GB SSD is missing as asked by the OP

Also, I would not go for the 2gb version of the geforce 960 but the 4gb version as it does make a difference as shown here - Nvidia GeForce GTX 960 2GB vs 4GB review • Eurogamer.net RPG games( and other open world games) would benefit from more memory,especially when you try the myriad mods available for RPG games.

Also the case is ugly! Try another one.

Also do check out paytm. They have some good discounts sometime.

On GPU front until you are getting the gtx960 4gb for about the same then it doesn't matter. But, if the difference is more than there is no benefit with 4GB on gtx960 as the GPU is quite weak to make use of more than 2GB RAM.

Also, the above benchmarks that you have pointed to shows that only at 1080p resolution there is sight bump in fps from 2gb to 4gb and that too in a single assassin creed game. Other benchmarks clearly shows that 2GB is slightly faster than 4GB version which again is irrelevant.
Looking at the fps data for other games in the comparison. I would put the assassin creed data under suspicion whether that slight lower fps on 2gb version was really due to the RAM. Also again at 1440p we see the same result that there was no difference between 2gb and 4gb version in assassin creed.

Anyhow, gtx960 2gb and 4gb makes absolutely no difference as the gpu is not powerful enough to handle more. So, I would recommend that if you get the 4gb for similar price only then consider it otherwise you can also look at 380 for better performance.
 

isaac12345

Journeyman
On GPU front until you are getting the gtx960 4gb for about the same then it doesn't matter. But, if the difference is more than there is no benefit with 4GB on gtx960 as the GPU is quite weak to make use of more than 2GB RAM.

Also, the above benchmarks that you have pointed to shows that only at 1080p resolution there is sight bump in fps from 2gb to 4gb and that too in a single assassin creed game. Other benchmarks clearly shows that 2GB is slightly faster than 4GB version which again is irrelevant.
Looking at the fps data for other games in the comparison. I would put the assassin creed data under suspicion whether that slight lower fps on 2gb version was really due to the RAM. Also again at 1440p we see the same result that there was no difference between 2gb and 4gb version in assassin creed.

Anyhow, gtx960 2gb and 4gb makes absolutely no difference as the gpu is not powerful enough to handle more. So, I would recommend that if you get the 4gb for similar price only then consider it otherwise you can also look at 380 for better performance.

I wouldn't call the jump from 26fps to above 34fps 'a slight bump' . It may look like just 8fps but to the eyes its the difference between smooth gameplay and stutter. You can test it with any game on even older hardware.
If you look at the latest batman game, it is also affected by whether you have 2 or 4gb of vram. Moreover, it actually performs better on Nvidia hardware than AMD because of increased CPU overhead of AMD cards which is commonly occuring issue with DX11 games.(Performance Analysis: Batman on PC is still a disappointment • Eurogamer.net)
Shadow of Mordor is another one which is affected the amount of vram, although because AMD was involved with its development, it performs better on AMD hardware.
Furthermore, RPG games,which the OP wants to play, as they get older tend to get more mods which include graphical updates that require more vram. Skyrim is a good example of this even though its dx9.

As for the AMD 380 vs Nvidia 960, I would go for Nvidia,even though its a slightly less powerful card. That's because Nvidia's drivers are much better quality. Therefore, even with a weaker card, Nvidia's perform as good and more consistently than AMD's. For example, frame pacing is often an issue with AMD cards unless they are combined with a powerful CPU.

Another point, which I am not completely sure about, is that the AMD 380 requires 2 power connectors for which you either would need to get a convertor or a different power supply. You can search for a single connection AMD 380 but that's just another hassle to be honest considering how very small the performance difference is between the 4gb 960 and 380.

OP, if you are willing to, I would strongly suggest you look up the price of a Nvidia GTX 970 and see whether you can and would like to save up the money to buy that. THAT card will give you a great experience now and in the next 3 years or so.
 
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Raghul

Broken In
Placed Order for the following Components with a local vendor
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ProcessorIntel Core i5 6600k18,250
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X3,090
MotherboardAsus Z170 Pro Gaming(not ordered)15,500
MemoryG.Skill RipjawsV DDR4 8GB RAM3,875
Power SupplySeasonic M12II 520w(not Available with any local V's)5,600
CabinetCorsair SPEC-01
3,675
Total(Excluding PSU)44,390

Suggest a power supply from Corsair,Cooler Master or Antec 2*12v rails(I believe that's necessary for high end GPU's).
what is your suggestion on the motherboard, what is your opinion on msi boards.

*prices are from local vendor at palakkad, kerala.
 
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isaac12345

Journeyman
Placed Order for the following Components with a local vendor
:)
ProcessorIntel Core i5 6600k18,250
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212X3,090
MotherboardAsus Z170 Pro Gaming(not ordered)15,500
MemoryG.Skill RipjawsV DDR4 8GB RAM3,875
Power SupplySeasonic M12II 520w(not Available with any local V's)5,600
CabinetCorsair SPEC-01
3,675
Total52,030

Suggest a power supply from Corsair,Cooler Master or Antec 2*12v rails(I believe that's necessary for high end GPU's).
what is your suggestion on the motherboard, what is your opinion on msi boards.

*prices are from local vendor at palakkad, kerala.

The Seasonic model suggested above is basically the modular version of the S12 II Bronze 520W. Its available at flipkart for 5500 - Seasonic S12II 520 Watts PSU - Seasonic : Flipkart.com You might be able to get it cheaper at paytm or local vendors If you want the modular version, try emailing seasonic to ask them if they know any vendors in India that have it.

The power supply although says has two 12v rails on the sticker, actually has only a single rail, as mentioned in this review - "This unit does not have two 12V rails at all - it's a single 12V design. There is no multirail overcurrent protection in there. That'll make load testing easier. " Seasonic S12 II Bronze 520W Review . Here's another one that says the same - Seasonic S12II Bronze 520 W Power Supply Review - Power Distribution of 11 - Hardware Secrets .I'm not sure if high end GPUs like the gtx 970 need two 12v rails. Can you please cite the source where you got this information from?

On a side note here's a list of reviews sorted by manufacturer - CORSAIR - PSU Review Database and a PSU tier list - PSU tier list 2.0 - Power Supplies - Components

As for the motherboard, I dont know much about them at the moment. It just seems that spending 15.5k on a motherboard seems a bit much. Maybe someone here can suggest cheaper ones? You can put the saved money into something else, like a good soundcard or power surge protection. Or dust filters. Or just not spend it. Upto you really.
 
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Raghul

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The Seasonic model suggested above is basically the modular version of the S12 II Bronze 520W. Its available at flipkart for 5500 - Seasonic S12II 520 Watts PSU - Seasonic : Flipkart.com You might be able to get it cheaper at paytm or local vendors If you want the modular version, try emailing seasonic to ask them if they know any vendors in India that have it.

The power supply although says has two 12v rails on the sticker, actually has only a single rail, as mentioned in this review - "This unit does not have two 12V rails at all - it's a single 12V design. There is no multirail overcurrent protection in there. That'll make load testing easier. " Seasonic S12 II Bronze 520W Review . Here's another one that says the same - Seasonic S12II Bronze 520 W Power Supply Review - Power Distribution of 11 - Hardware Secrets .I'm not sure if high end GPUs like the gtx 970 need two 12v rails. Can you please cite the source where you got this information from?

On a side note here's a list of reviews sorted by manufacturer - CORSAIR - PSU Review Database and a PSU tier list - PSU tier list 2.0 - Power Supplies - Components

As for the motherboard, I dont know much about them at the moment. It just seems that spending 15.5k on a motherboard seems a bit much. Maybe someone here can suggest cheaper ones? You can put the saved money into something else, like a good soundcard or power surge protection. Or dust filters. Or just not spend it. Upto you really.

The Seasonic M12ii 520 is available on eBay, but the thing is I am not sure that I need a premium one. I am not eve planing to use a dual GPU card or SLI. I think Antec VP550P(3rd tier- thanks for the Info) is sufficient.Please correct me if I am wrong here.

About Multi rails. read a lot on the topic and a few YouTube videos.all I know learned about it is that you need a 12v rail for cpu and gpu and it should provide at least 18A(if dual) or 34A(if single).

Spending Extra on Motherboard has its perks like, a display port, a better Sound Chipset(its worth a dedicated soundcard according to sources), Intel LAN, Faster SATA and highly optimized for the purpose of gaming.
 
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isaac12345

Journeyman
The Seasonic M12ii 520 is available on eBay, but the thing is I am not sure that I need a premium one. I am not eve planing to use a dual GPU card or SLI. I think Antec VP550P(3rd tier- thanks for the Info) is sufficient.Please correct me if I am wrong here.

About Multi rails. read a lot on the topic and a few YouTube videos.all I know learned about it is that you need a 12v rail for cpu and gpu and it should provide at least 18A(if dual) or 34A(if single).

Spending Extra on Motherboard has its perks like, a display port, a better Sound Chipset(its worth a dedicated soundcard according to sources), Intel LAN, Faster SATA and highly optimized for the purpose of gaming.

Well I could find only one decent review(in english) for the antec VP550P - Antec Basiq VP550P 550 W Review | techPowerUp . It seems to be quite a good power supply for the money but its just one review. Its your money so ultimately its your decision. Just make sure it has the right power connectors and rails for your components, especially GPU.

'Optimized for gaming' is generally a marketing term. But if the rest of the features are worth the money to you then go for it.Amongst the features you have mentioned the most tangible difference will be from better sound and faster SATA if you ever go for a SSD later.

Just make sure you get something that protects your expensive system from a power surge and other similar events. From experience I can tell you, its a f-ing pain in the ass once something gets damaged and your components fry!
 
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Raghul

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Well I could find only one decent review(in english) for the antec VP550P - Antec Basiq VP550P 550 W Review | techPowerUp . It seems to be quite a good power supply for the money but its just one review. Its your money so ultimately its your decision. Just make sure it has the right power connectors and rails for your components, especially GPU.

'Optimized for gaming' is generally a marketing term. But if the rest of the features are worth the money to you then go for it.Amongst the features you have mentioned the most tangible difference will be from better sound and faster SATA if you ever go for a SSD later.

Just make sure you get something that protects your expensive system from a power surge and other similar events. From experience I can tell you, its a f-ing pain in the ass once something gets damaged and your components fry!

thank you for the opinion. I'll make sure I'll get a surge protector.
 
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