PC Rig sub 25K

[ravi368]

Here are my requirements :



1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Heavy MS Applications(W,X,PP), Heavy internet browsing, PhotoShop and Online Games (No downloads of games), Watching Movie, wireless wifi

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: (Rs. 25,000 + 2K extra)

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Yes (later maybe)

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 7 (and Ubuntu maybe)

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1 TB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: NO MONITOR

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: NO Monitor, NO mouse/KB and NO UPS

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Within Jan 1st

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Assembler

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Bangalore (no online) Goto SP road and get it assembled

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: The cabinet needs to be small not big

 

[panwala95]

ok so your needs are a little different but this should work-
amd fx 8120-9k
ASUS M5A78L-M LX V2 Motherboard-2.7k
his hd 6450-2.5k
corsiar value 2x4gb-2k
cm elite 430-3.3k
seagate barracuda 1tb-4.4k
corsair cx 430-2.3k
total-26.2k
hope this helps

 

[Cilus]

Why are you suggesting HD 6450 all the time? It is just an HTPC card aand does not provide any noticeable performance acceleration in GPU computing, which can be used in applications like Photoshop. At the same price point OP can opt for GT 610 which is better than it. AFAIK, FX-8120 is available around 9.4K.

Regarding PSU, as OP is not going for any high end Graphics card, he can opt for Antec BP300 PSU @ 1.9K or Antec VP350P around 2.1K (Antec VP350P Power Supply Price - Buy Antec VP350P Power Supply Price in India, Best Prices n Review)

 

[panwala95]

@cilus saving just 200 rupees and sacrificing nearly 80w of power is madness
with regards to the gt 610 its just a rebranded gt 520 so yeah the op could use it

 

[Cilus]

@cilus saving just 200 rupees and sacrificing nearly 80w of power is madness
with regards to the gt 610 its just a rebranded gt 520 so yeah the op could use it

Buddy, get your facts right. If rated Power is the only deciding factor, then VS450 is better than CX 430 V2, as the former one provides 20W more power. But you know that is not the case. The PSU performance depends on its efficiency, Ripple factor handling and PFC controls. Also it depends upon the amount of power the PSU can deliver to the 12V rail as most of the power hungry components like Graphics card get the current from it.

VS450 is a very basic PSU from Corsair, targeting the lower end segment in Asia. It can't even power the HD 6790 whereas CX 430 v2 can actually power a HD 7850.

Performance wise Antec VP350P and CX 430 V2 is almost same. Both can provide around 336W power to the 12V rail, resulgting support for higher end components. So please don't use terms like Pure madness without knowing a single thing. We prefer CX 430 V2 due to its higher wattage, resulting better overclocking potential in the sytem and very good after-sale service.

Antec VP350P is almost equally good and can be suggested as OP is in tight budget. It is far better than VS450 in every single quality and performance matrices.

 

[panwala95]

woh woh go easy on me man im just a kid

 

[ravi368]

Buddy, get your facts right. If rated Power is the only deciding factor, then VS450 is better than CX 430 V2, as the former one provides 20W more power. But you know that is not the case. The PSU performance depends on its efficiency, Ripple factor handling and PFC controls. Also it depends upon the amount of power the PSU can deliver to the 12V rail as most of the power hungry components like Graphics card get the current from it.

VS450 is a very basic PSU from Corsair, targeting the lower end segment in Asia. It can't even power the HD 6790 whereas CX 430 v2 can actually power a HD 7850.

Performance wise Antec VP350P and CX 430 V2 is almost same. Both can provide around 336W power to the 12V rail, resulgting support for higher end components. So please don't use terms like Pure madness without knowing a single thing. We prefer CX 430 V2 due to its higher wattage, resulting better overclocking potential in the sytem and very good after-sale service.

Antec VP350P is almost equally good and can be suggested as OP is in tight budget. It is far better than VS450 in every single quality and performance matrices.

Am a newbie and looks like most of this is overhead transmission
Anyway is this what it will look like ?


amd fx 8120-9k
ASUS M5A78L-M LX V2 Motherboard-2.7k
his hd 6450-2.5k OR GT 610
corsiar value 2x4gb-2k
cm elite 430-3.3k
seagate barracuda 1tb-4.4k
corsair cx 430-2.3k

So can you guys expand what each component is ? (HD is harddrive then why seagate 1tb then ?)
I just want to give that assembler exact name. Hence all this.

Some more queries is :

- Does this config have DVD +RW
- Does this have Graphic Card
- Does this have RAM (2/4GB)
- What about the cabinet (Intex i guess right ?)

 

[panwala95]

@ravi368 sir you are clearly confused
the hd 6450 is a graphic card the seagate is the harddisk
here is the list-
fx 8120-cpu
asus m5a78-motherboard
hd 6450-graphic card
corsair value 2x4gb-ram
corsair cx 430-power supply
cm elite 430-cabinet

 

[Cilus]

AMD FX 8120 @ 9.4K
ASUS M5A78L-M LX V2 Motherboard 2.727K
Corsair Value Series 4GB X 1 1333 MHz DDR3 Ram @ 1.2K
Corsair CX 430v2 PSU @ 2.7K
Cooler Master Elite 311 Cabinet @ 2K
Gainward GT 610 1GB DDR3 @ 2.6K

 

[vickybat]

Am a newbie and looks like most of this is overhead transmission
Anyway is this what it will look like ?


amd fx 8120-9k
ASUS M5A78L-M LX V2 Motherboard-2.7k
his hd 6450-2.5k OR GT 610
corsiar value 2x4gb-2k
cm elite 430-3.3k
seagate barracuda 1tb-4.4k
corsair cx 430-2.3k

So can you guys expand what each component is ? (HD is harddrive then why seagate 1tb then ?)
I just want to give that assembler exact name. Hence all this.

Some more queries is :

- Does this config have DVD +RW
- Does this have Graphic Card
- Does this have RAM (2/4GB)
- What about the cabinet (Intex i guess right ?)

Don't even think of housing 8120 on that board. This is pure madness for sure.
8120 is a 125 w cpu and is absolutely not recommended for low end boards having questionable vrm design.
You will be in a huge risk of blowing up the core components. 95 w cpu's are considered ok to pair with low end boards though.

A good 970 based or higher boards are recommended for amd fx processors. And at your budget, its impossible to fit an 8 core fx with a decent board and rest of the core components.

I have a better suggestion and actually the best for you since your usage is very basic apart from photoshop. This config was given by our forum member vkl in a different thread.
Posting that again here as i think its best for you.

AMD A10-5800k -8.4k
ASUS F2A85-M -6.7k
G.Skill RipjawsX(1600MHz)(F3-12800CL9S) 4GB -1.5k
WD Caviar Blue 500GB - 3.3k
Corsair CX430v2 -2.5k
NZXT source 210 elite -2.6k
Asus DRW-24B5ST - 1k
Total - 26k

Exceeds your budget by 1k but worth every penny. You will get very good performance in photoshop which now supports open-cl acceleration. 5800k is best suited for this kind of work.
Apart from open-cl workloads, that integrated gpu is very powerful and can handle games quite well too. All the other tasks you mentioned are a piece of cake in this system.

I would say go for this eyes closed.

 

[panwala95]

ok but @ vicky bat the op has budget constraits and if he wants best performance per rupees from his cpu then the fx 8120 + ASUS M5A78L-M LX V2 Motherboard is the best bet
also as see previously in this forum asus mobos are known to be reliable whether top model or bottom most model
so we really dont see any need to change the config mentioned in post #2 or # 9

 

[Cilus]

Actually Bulldozer does have highe power consumption and putting it on a very cheap motherboard might result hardware failure.

ravi368, if you can increase your budget by 1.3K then get the Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (revision 4.1) @ 4K. This motherboard has support for higher end 125W FX 8 core CPU, even the FX 8350. Here is the CPU support list: GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY Socket AM3+ - AMD 760G - GA-78LMT-USB3 (rev. 4.1)

 

[ravi368]

Actually Bulldozer does have highe power consumption and putting it on a very cheap motherboard might result hardware failure.

ravi368, if you can increase your budget by 1.3K then get the Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (revision 4.1) @ 4K. This motherboard has support for higher end 125W FX 8 core CPU, even the FX 8350. Here is the CPU support list: GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY Socket AM3+ - AMD 760G - GA-78LMT-USB3 (rev. 4.1)

Perfect you guys rock ! So what I could get from this thread is :

AMD A10-5800k -8.4k
ASUS F2A85-M -6.7k
G.Skill RipjawsX(1600MHz)(F3-12800CL9S) 4GB -1.5k
WD Caviar Blue 500GB - 3.3k
Corsair CX430v2 -2.5k
NZXT source 210 elite -2.6k
Asus DRW-24B5ST - 1k
Total - 26k

Someone please put the name(like motherboard, GPU..etc) against the above config.
Also
- Does this have a DVD +RW ?
- I can bump by 1.3K np. So where does
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (revision 4.1) @ 4K -- fit/replace into ?
- I believe above has 4 GB ram.. I thought someone reco for 2x4GB DDR3 ?
Thanks a ton ! and happy holidays..

 

[Cilus]

Better go with the FX-8120 based configuration. Applications mentioned by you need more powerful CPU than a good graphics card. In the config, just change the Motherboard with the one I mentioned in the previous post.

 

[panwala95]

yup go with the fx 8120 config which is more suited to your needs
and happy holidays to you to !

 

[vickybat]

Better go with the FX-8120 based configuration. Applications mentioned by you need more powerful CPU than a good graphics card. In the config, just change the Motherboard with the one I mentioned in the previous post.

Buddy i don't think the fx 8120 is required here at all. The apps he mentioned ( heavy ms like word excel , powerpoint, heavy web browsing , mmo's and finally photoshop) are nowhere heavy and nothing that a quad core cpu can't handle. It doesn't need the type of multitasking 8120 offers.
5800k can handle everything easily and not to forget the opencl acceleration in photoshop.

Besides, i don't think its wise to pair an fx octa core cpu with a 4 phase motherboard. ud3 and higher boards are recommended for fx.

ok but @ vicky bat the op has budget constraits and if he wants best performance per rupees from his cpu then the fx 8120 + ASUS M5A78L-M LX V2 Motherboard is the best bet
also as see previously in this forum asus mobos are known to be reliable whether top model or bottom most model
so we really dont see any need to change the config mentioned in post #2 or # 9

No it isn't buddy. There will be issues afterwards.

Perfect you guys rock ! So what I could get from this thread is :

AMD A10-5800k -8.4k
ASUS F2A85-M -6.7k
G.Skill RipjawsX(1600MHz)(F3-12800CL9S) 4GB -1.5k
WD Caviar Blue 500GB - 3.3k
Corsair CX430v2 -2.5k
NZXT source 210 elite -2.6k
Asus DRW-24B5ST - 1k
Total - 26k

Someone please put the name(like motherboard, GPU..etc) against the above config.
Also
- Does this have a DVD +RW ?
- I can bump by 1.3K np. So where does
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (revision 4.1) @ 4K -- fit/replace into ?
- I believe above has 4 GB ram.. I thought someone reco for 2x4GB DDR3 ?
Thanks a ton ! and happy holidays..

Buddy go with the 5800k. Its much more than enough and a quite balanced cpu.

The config i gave has the following order:

cpu
motherboard
Ram
Harddisk
Powersupply
cabinet
dvd-rw

Don't get confused with Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 suggested by cilus as that is an AM3+ board for fx 8120 cpu mentioned earlier.
It won't work with 5800k as the latter belongs to socket FM2 and the motherboard i mentioned belongs to the same.

I guess you are clear now.

 

[ravi368]

The config i gave has the following order:

cpu - AMD A10-5800k -8.4k
motherboard - ASUS F2A85-M -6.7k
Ram - G.Skill RipjawsX(1600MHz)(F3-12800CL9S) 4GB -1.5k
Harddisk - WD Caviar Blue 500GB - 3.3k
Powersupply - Corsair CX430v2 -2.5k
cabinet - NZXT source 210 elite -2.6k
dvd-rw - Asus DRW-24B5ST - 1k

Total - 26k


I guess you are clear now.

Yes Its clear. Few things more I need clarity on is :

- Do we get atleast 4 USB ports on this ? (2 for kb+mouse, 1 for TV tuner card, 1 extra)
- Display monitor wise, i hope it has reqd o/p hdmi or regular co-ax
- I have samsung wide monitor. It should work for this
- Is it wise to install Windows 7 (pirated version on this) ?

 

[panwala95]

1)this mobo has 10 usb ports so that is sorted out
2)yes it has the following display outputs-dvi-d ,hdmi and regular vga
3)yes it will work becaus eall monitor have atleast a vga connector
4)are be bindass install anything
although currently windows 8 pro @ 3.5k is cheap as well as recommended
good luck !

 

[vickybat]

Yes Its clear. Few things more I need clarity on is :

- Do we get atleast 4 USB ports on this ? (2 for kb+mouse, 1 for TV tuner card, 1 extra)
- Display monitor wise, i hope it has reqd o/p hdmi or regular co-ax
- I have samsung wide monitor. It should work for this
- Is it wise to install Windows 7 (pirated version on this) ?

Panwala95 gave all answers to your questions and they stand correct. Good luck with your purchase mate.
Do post pics here.