PC for 35-40K

[Shankar36]

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: CSIT Engg. Programming
Watching movies
Games like Fifa 13 and nfs mw casually
Learning basic photoshopping and video editing


2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:35-40K

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:no

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:Windows 8,Ubuntu 12.10

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:1 TB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:Yes i want to buy a new monitor, 21.5 inch full hd

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:In next 2 weeks time

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:assembler

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:Mysore,buying locally or in Bengaluru

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans; I also need a hd webcam


Planning to sell old pc with these specs...What price can i expect in exchange

Proc - Intel Pentium D 2.8Ghz
MB - Intel D102GGC2
RAM - 1.5GB
HDD - 160GB
Monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 794MG 17 inch CRT
Speakers - Creative Inspire 2.1
Microsoft KB+Mouse combo

 

[Cilus]

Get the following:-

AMD A10-5800K @ 8.3K
Integrated DX 11 HD 7660D IGP (384 SP)
Asus F2A85-M-LE @ 5.7K
Corsair Vengeance 1600 MHz CL10 8GB X 1 @ 3K
Toshiba 7200 RPM SATA HDD @ 4.3K
Corsair CX 430 V2 PSU @ 2.6K
NZXT Source 210 Elite Cabinet @ 2.6K
LG 22X DVD R/W @ 0.9K
Logitech Mk100 Keyboard & Mouse @ 0.5K
AOC 21.5" IPS Panel Full HD LED @ 8.4K

 

[Shankar36]

Thanks Cilus

*If i add a graphics card to this config after 1 or 2 yrs.....can i use it for 5-6yrs with moderate gaming(i am not an avid gamer...will play nfs fifa ocassionally)

*Whats ur opinion abt wireless kb+mouse?Will there be any problem while gaming?

*Which monitor is better among
1.AOC 21.5 inch LED - I2251FWE
2.Dell 21.5 inch LED - S2240L
3.Samsung 21.5 inch LED - S22B370H

*Can u suggest any other motherboard in 4.5-5K range and a cabinet @ around 1.5K and a hd webcam?

*Since my old speakers are having some problem I am planning to replace my old creative inspire 2.1 with Creative SBS A120 2.1 Multimedia Speakers.
Any other alternative?

*If i go for a 5.1 speaker is there any need to buy sound card?

*What price can i expect by selling my old pc with the configs that i mentioned in first post??

 

[Cilus]

I am not sure about 5/6 years, that's a too big time to predict. Consider, 2007, 5 years back, we used to have Dual Core AMD (Athlon X2) and Dual Core Intel (Core2Duo) CPUs and now we have 8 Core CPUs.
But if you add a good Graphics cards with the suggested config, ya, it will last long.

 

[Shankar36]

Hello guys,

One of the local vendors suggested me to go for AM3+ based FX series processors.

*Sorry if I am asking a dumb question here.

Whats the advantage in going for AMD A series over AMD FX series processors?Is it just the Integrated GPU in AMD A series or any other advantage in going for FM2 socket type processor over AM3+ socket type?

*Among AMD 3.6 GHz AM3+ FX4100 and AMD A10 5800K which one is better?

*Niether the AMD A10 5800K processor nor the Asus F2A85-M-LE Mobo is available with any local Vendors here in Mysore,Kar. so couldnt get the quotation for the config today.

*Can anyone from Bangalore suggest me any shops/place in Bangolore where i can get these stuffs at a reasonable price?

 

[satyanjoy]

SP Road in Bangalore, check with ashirwad

 

[Sainatarajan]

The A10 5800K Has the best Integrated Graphics currently. Also it a newer gen . The FX 4100 is old gen awa it Has Problems with Windows 7. I think some patch has made it good. But A10 5800K would be the best solution in your case.

 

[Cilus]

At your budget, the only FX Processor available is FX 4100 which really has some disappointing performance, both in CPU intensive tasks and gaming. The next generation architecture from AMD is known as Piledriver which fixes a lot of issues associated with the Bulldozer architecture, on which the FX-4100 is based on. The FX counterpart of A10-5800K is FX-4300 which offers better performance than i3 3220 in almost all fields.

So you take a FX-4300, strip off the 4 MB L3 cache, add a HD 7660D IGP and wou will get a A10-5800K.

 

[Shankar36]

Hello guys...got this price for this config from a local vendor is it reasonable?

1.Processor - AMD Trinity A10-5800K Integrated DX 11 HD 7660D IGP Rs.8170

2.Motherboard - Asus F2A85-M-LE Rs.5475

3.RAM - Corsair Vengeance 1600 MHz CL10 8GB X 1 Rs.3150

4.HDD 1 TB - Toshiba 7200 RPM SATA HDD Rs.4000

5.PSU - Corsair CX 430 V2 Rs.2600

6.Cabinet - NZXT Source 210 Elite Cabinet----not available

7.Optical Drive - LG 22X DVD R/W Rs.950

8.Microsoft/Logitech Wireless Keyboard + Mouse Combo Rs.1150

9.Monitor - Dell 21.5 inch LED - S2240L Rs.9250
Samsung 21.5 inch LED - S22B370H Rs.9300

10.Speakers - Creative SBS A120 2.1 Rs.1150

11.Logitech HD Webcam + Stereo Headset Combo Rs.1600

Total Rs.37545 without Cabinet......If i can get this config cheaper than this anywhere in Bangalore or online plz let me know

Also I'm getting around 3.5K to 4K by selling my old PC with this spec
Proc - Intel Pentium D 2.8Ghz
MB - Intel D102GGC2
RAM - 1.5GB
HDD - 160GB
Monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 794MG 17 inch CRT
Microsoft KB+Mouse combo

...............................................is it reasonable?

 

[draco21]

U could use keyboard and mouse....

also get a good cabby with usb 3.0 ports.

U could use keyboard and mouse....

also get a good cabby with usb 3.0 ports.

 

[d6bmg]

Hello guys...got this price for this config from a local vendor is it reasonable?

1.Processor - AMD Trinity A10-5800K Integrated DX 11 HD 7660D IGP Rs.8170

2.Motherboard - Asus F2A85-M-LE Rs.5475

3.RAM - Corsair Vengeance 1600 MHz CL10 8GB X 1 Rs.3150

4.HDD 1 TB - Toshiba 7200 RPM SATA HDD Rs.4000

5.PSU - Corsair CX 430 V2 Rs.2600

6.Cabinet - NZXT Source 210 Elite Cabinet----not available

7.Optical Drive - LG 22X DVD R/W Rs.950

8.Microsoft/Logitech Wireless Keyboard + Mouse Combo Rs.1150

9.Monitor - Dell 21.5 inch LED - S2240L Rs.9250
Samsung 21.5 inch LED - S22B370H Rs.9300

10.Speakers - Creative SBS A120 2.1 Rs.1150

11.Logitech HD Webcam + Stereo Headset Combo Rs.1600

Total Rs.37545 without Cabinet......If i can get this config cheaper than this anywhere in Bangalore or online plz let me know

Also I'm getting around 3.5K to 4K by selling my old PC with this spec
Proc - Intel Pentium D 2.8Ghz
MB - Intel D102GGC2
RAM - 1.5GB
HDD - 160GB
Monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 794MG 17 inch CRT
Microsoft KB+Mouse combo

...............................................is it reasonable?

Except for 2 bolder parts, everything is good.

1. Vengeance 8GB @3.1K is way too much overpriced.
Buy G.Skill RipjaysX 2x 4GB 1600MHz modules for 2.6K. If that shop don't have it, get it from another shop.

2. Do NOT get Toshiba HDD, you will have problem with RMA for sure.
Get WD Blue 1TB HDD @3.4K
or
Seagate 7200.12 1TB HDD for 4.4K

 

[Shankar36]

Hello guys.......

The budget can be extended upto 42K max and i'm planning to add a discrete graphics card after 1 year.......... so how abt this config

Processor - Intel Core i5 3470
Mobo - Gigabyte GA-B75-D3H

and remaining things same as earlier.

 

[Cilus]

When you will be adding Graphics card, the system is gonna be a real great Gaming machine but until then, don't expect to play current games on intel HD 2500/HD 3000 Graphics.

 

[Shankar36]

Oh ok then....I think it would be sensible to go with AMD A10 5800K and Asus F2A85-M-LE Mobo in my budget right now and since mobo has only two ram slots it would be better if I go with 8Gb x 1 Corsair Vengeance 1600 MHz so that i can add another stick later if i have to.

Corsair CX 430 V2 PSU isnt available.....what abt Corsair VS450 PSU @2.5K? and what about HDD Toshiba or WD Blue........which one is good?

Which monitor is good Dell 21.5 inch LED - S2240L or Samsung 21.5 inch LED - S22B370H?

What is ur opinion about altec lansing speakers?any good option @ around 1.5K?

 

[Cilus]

Don't get VS series PSU from Corsair, they are basically cheaper product targeted for South Asian market, does not have 80+ certification and mainly targeted towards office computers. Try to get the PSU online.

Get WD Blue HDD as WD offers better after-sell service.

 

[Shankar36]

Thank you very much Cilus.......I will look in some other shops for CX430 V2 or I will order it online.

I was going through some reviews of AMD A10 5800K at newegg and most of them were recommending to buy DDR3 1866 MHz RAM atleast to get a huge performance improvement. If it is true which Corsair DDR3 1866 Mhz stick can I have as an option? and what about stock heat sink is it good enough or should i have to buy a Cooler?(I wont be oveclocking)

Is it possible to force the IGP to use 1GB of RAM (i.e.,anything above 512MB) to get performance boost??

 

[Minion]

What is ur opinion about altec lansing speakers?any good option @ around 1.5K?

You can get altec lansing vs2621.

 

[Shankar36]

Thanks Minion....but I think that model has become obsolete.

Guys if I hav to consider any ram above 1866MHz,do I have to go for 16GB DDR3 sticks??coz all the available 8GB sticks r at max 1600MHz

 

[d6bmg]

Thank you very much Cilus.......I will look in some other shops for CX430 V2 or I will order it online.

I was going through some reviews of AMD A10 5800K at newegg and most of them were recommending to buy DDR3 1866 MHz RAM atleast to get a huge performance improvement. If it is true which Corsair DDR3 1866 Mhz stick can I have as an option? and what about stock heat sink is it good enough or should i have to buy a Cooler?(I wont be oveclocking)

Is it possible to force the IGP to use 1GB of RAM (i.e.,anything above 512MB) to get performance boost??

Any 1600MHz module, which are very easily available in the market will suffice general needs.

 

[Cilus]

Ya, getting higher speed Ram improves the IGP's gaming performance as it shares the system Ram and faster Memory will provide the IGP with higher memory bandwidth, resulting better performance. The G-Skill and Kingston 1600 MHz CL9 rams can run at 1866 MHz speed with CL10 latency but I am not sure about Vengeance Module as the High Profile one which comes with a big cooler isn't suitable for overclocking as per different reviews. Going for a single 8GB 1866 MHz Ram will not be cost effective as they are priced way higher.