Nvidia GT 650M Overheating in Samsung laptop.

[dan4u]

I recently bought a Samsung NP550P5C laptop,
3rd Gen i5 3210M
2GB Nvidia GT 650M DDR3
6GB RAM
1TB HD
I've installed Max Payne 3, the gameplay is decent during the first 10-15 mins i.e 40-50 fps, but then there is a drastic drop in frame rate to 8-10 fps, it stays at 8-10 fps for about 30-50 seconds and then goes back up to 40-50 fps, this happens even when paused!!! and occurs again after 2 mins. so every time there's a drop in frame rate I have to pause and wait for the fps to increase, its really frustrating . This happens to all games installed i.e NFS Hot pursuit, BF3...etc
the GPU temperature is around 80-88 degree Celsius while gaming
I thought its a driver problem, so installed a Beta version driver released by Nvidia, but the problem remains. any ideas?

I did a little searching and found out that fps drops when the gpu overheats,
but overheating usually happens to old/aged computers, mines hardly a week old. and I'm not blocking any air vents, I've propped it on a book and there's even a tower fan blowing air to cool it down.

So, could it be a manufacturing defect or should I get a proper laptop cooler??

 

[Hrishi]

What are your settings in Nvidia control Panel , it can help in identifying the problem.

Also are there any heavy background apps running other than Games ?

AFAIK , when GPU/CPU gets too hot or cross the thermal threshold they Underclock themselves to getaway from over heating.
This will reduce the performance a lot , due to downclocking and is not good for long run.

I would suggest trying some Monitoring software for temperature.

 

[dan4u]

What are your settings in Nvidia control Panel , it can help in identifying the problem.

Also are there any heavy background apps running other than Games ?

AFAIK , when GPU/CPU gets too hot or cross the thermal threshold they Underclock themselves to getaway from over heating.
This will reduce the performance a lot , due to downclocking and is not good for long run.

I would suggest trying some Monitoring software for temperature.

thanks for the reply
At first I chose auto-select in the nvidia control panel, it always chose the 650M while gaming. Then I manually added Max payne and nfs, in the nvidia control panel. and there are no heavy background apps, of the 6GB RAM only 3GB is used and I can easily browse with the game minimized.

That's also what I think, that the gpu is underclocking under high temperature . and I used HWmonitor and GPU-Z to monitor the temp.
The Maximum recorded GPU Temp was 90C, but even at 85C this happens.

I don't get it, if the gpu underclocks after 10-15 mins isn't there something wrong with it?? a hardware issue??

I just bought this lap last week, I'm wondering if the dealer will give me another piece or ask me to go to samsung service

 

[s18000rpm]

my gt540m touches 92 degs while playing bf3, i dont have any fps drop/freeze problems.
Install the WHQL driver & use 'clean install' while instaling. and put laptop in high performance mode while playing.

 

[dan4u]

my gt540m touches 92 degs while playing bf3, i dont have any fps drop/freeze problems.
Install the WHQL driver & use 'clean install' while instaling. and put laptop in high performance mode while playing.

will try that. what settings are you playing at? and what resolution?

 

[s18000rpm]

*i.imgur.com/pmwQu.png
resolution=native @ 1366x768, with textures, world objects... set to high, no vsync

*i.imgur.com/pH8p7.png
bf3 settings

 

[psychopaRth]

I have NP550P5C i7 and I am facing throttling issues. I bought cooler master U3 and it is no help at all . I dont know if i bought a defective one . it works well for 10 min on 1600*900 resolution but after 10 min fps drops drastically... tried playing at lowest settings still doesnt work . i am really dissapointed by samsung

 

[psychopaRth]

thanks for the reply
At first I chose auto-select in the nvidia control panel, it always chose the 650M while gaming. Then I manually added Max payne and nfs, in the nvidia control panel. and there are no heavy background apps, of the 6GB RAM only 3GB is used and I can easily browse with the game minimized.

That's also what I think, that the gpu is underclocking under high temperature . and I used HWmonitor and GPU-Z to monitor the temp.
The Maximum recorded GPU Temp was 90C, but even at 85C this happens.

I don't get it, if the gpu underclocks after 10-15 mins isn't there something wrong with it?? a hardware issue??

I just bought this lap last week, I'm wondering if the dealer will give me another piece or ask me to go to samsung service

I am too facing same problems ... my GPU throttles at 91 C and the FPS drops drastically... and i used cooler master U3 cooling pad and it doesnt help at all... i even tried playng games a at low settings still it isnt helping

 

[dan4u]

I am too facing same problems ... my GPU throttles at 91 C and the FPS drops drastically... and i used cooler master U3 cooling pad and it doesnt help at all... i even tried playng games a at low settings still it isnt helping

did you try playing on battery? even I have drastic drops in fps after 10-15mins but only when its plugged in. when its on battery no drops in fps, no throttling. Its really weird.

 

[sunny5]

I recently bought a Samsung NP550P5C laptop,
3rd Gen i5 3210M
2GB Nvidia GT 650M DDR3
6GB RAM
1TB HD
I've installed Max Payne 3, the gameplay is decent during the first 10-15 mins i.e 40-50 fps, but then there is a drastic drop in frame rate to 8-10 fps, it stays at 8-10 fps for about 30-50 seconds and then goes back up to 40-50 fps, this happens even when paused!!! and occurs again after 2 mins. so every time there's a drop in frame rate I have to pause and wait for the fps to increase, its really frustrating . This happens to all games installed i.e NFS Hot pursuit, BF3...etc
the GPU temperature is around 80-88 degree Celsius while gaming
I thought its a driver problem, so installed a Beta version driver released by Nvidia, but the problem remains. any ideas?

I did a little searching and found out that fps drops when the gpu overheats,
but overheating usually happens to old/aged computers, mines hardly a week old. and I'm not blocking any air vents, I've propped it on a book and there's even a tower fan blowing air to cool it down.

So, could it be a manufacturing defect or should I get a proper laptop cooler??

Did you resolve the issue with throttling, I am looking forward f buying this laptop from Kochi

 

[soulus85]

Did you resolve the issue with throttling, I am looking forward f buying this laptop from Kochi

I would watch these before you decide to buy this laptop

NP550P7C FPS LAG - YouTube

NP550P7C FPS LAG test 2 - YouTube

NP550P7C FPS LAG Test 3 - YouTube

I've been to samsung twice for a repair and I've still got the fps issue.

 

[stiffler90]

Dude I Had Xactly The Same Problem, and i was fed up with the massive fps lags in any game i play....So now i ve a gr8 solution for dis problem...Go to Run--then type Regedit--den HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE--Software--Nvidia Corporation--Global--Hybrid den click on Default on the right screen and set the value to 0 Thats it, Voila All lagging problem solved...

I recently bought a Samsung NP550P5C laptop,
3rd Gen i5 3210M
2GB Nvidia GT 650M DDR3
6GB RAM
1TB HD
I've installed Max Payne 3, the gameplay is decent during the first 10-15 mins i.e 40-50 fps, but then there is a drastic drop in frame rate to 8-10 fps, it stays at 8-10 fps for about 30-50 seconds and then goes back up to 40-50 fps, this happens even when paused!!! and occurs again after 2 mins. so every time there's a drop in frame rate I have to pause and wait for the fps to increase, its really frustrating . This happens to all games installed i.e NFS Hot pursuit, BF3...etc
the GPU temperature is around 80-88 degree Celsius while gaming
I thought its a driver problem, so installed a Beta version driver released by Nvidia, but the problem remains. any ideas?

I did a little searching and found out that fps drops when the gpu overheats,
but overheating usually happens to old/aged computers, mines hardly a week old. and I'm not blocking any air vents, I've propped it on a book and there's even a tower fan blowing air to cool it down.

So, could it be a manufacturing defect or should I get a proper laptop cooler??

 

[psychopaRth]

Doesnt work buddy

Dude I Had Xactly The Same Problem, and i was fed up with the massive fps lags in any game i play....So now i ve a gr8 solution for dis problem...Go to Run--then type Regedit--den HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE--Software--Nvidia Corporation--Global--Hybrid den click on Default on the right screen and set the value to 0 Thats it, Voila All lagging problem solved...

 

[d6bmg]

1. laptop isn't for gaming.
2. 85C is normal temperature in laptop while gaming for prolonged period of time.

 

[stiffler90]

Doesnt work buddy

Same Here it worked for the first few tyms den same as usual!!! Try dis Its now perfectly f9...Change your power settings to POWER SAVER MODE. Sounds crazy but it is working for me.I can play all my games without ne lag.Try it nd let me know!!!

 

[vivek201]

well hello guys...
congratulate me.. this is first ever post of my life to help others...

being into IT field from so long, hard core gamer and my curiosity about same.. makes me able to troubleshoot almost any problem on my own...

apart from this.. my answer will be best suited here.. coz i own da laptop of same series.... however with i7...

first thing...

this droppage of fps is because of overheat... as soon as ur GPU is about to become toast he decreases his GPU core clock to less than 100MHz to cool himself.. and games suck at such lower clock speed...

possible solutions...

NON technical...

1. purchase a cooler or use a flat surface avoiding hot areas and where ventilation can be maximum... dis laptop sucks in air from bottom.. blows heat away from the left side... well I own cooler master X3 cooler.. not the best.. but worthy...

Technical...

1. samsung sucks to the the professionalism.. u need to optimize a lot for gaming... first go into easy setting...turn off ur fan and power features there.. best if you turn off all features there which are meant for power, fans and devices...

2. Now go to power options... turn off the following or change settings to max quality/performance...
(A).. link state power management PCI
(B).. graphics performance..
(c).. processor performance.. min (100%) cooling policy (active) max (100%) of course...

next two settings remaining for nvidia and intel graphics... i will post screenshots later... coz i am in my office.. personal laptops not allowed...
however... i can write what i can remember....
go into 3D settings intel graphics...

vertical sync.. ON
anisotropic filtering.. APP controlled
check application optimal settings...

click power in intel graphics...

move slider to performance/quality for both profiles...

now get into nvidia...
go physx...
select ur GPU.. auto sucks...
go into 3D settings manual...
change default processor to NVIDIA...
antialias and anisotropic all off..
gamma correction off...
max rendered frames select upto 5.. if you think ur processor is idle...
texture quality force it to max performance..
power settings.. prefer max performance...


its almost done...

keep antialias always off even in games.. turn it on only if gpu can handle...
if you think i am loosing quality because of antialias... this doesnt mean much.. because it only smoothens edges.. however it makes a lot difference.. but its better to sacrifice this than sacrificing the world in games...


msg me if need help about anything.. specially about games...

 

[dan4u]

@vivek201 well congrats on your first post, and btw I did only two things to reduce temperature,

1. reduce processor performance to 70%
2. underclock gpu by 100mhz using msi afterburner.

since then there has been no lagging, temperature reduced drastically, and I did not notice any difference in performance.

 

[vivek201]

@vivek201 well congrats on your first post, and btw I did only two things to reduce temperature,

1. reduce processor performance to 70%
2. underclock gpu by 100mhz using msi afterburner.

since then there has been no lagging, temperature reduced drastically, and I did not notice any difference in performance.

well.... things u done... about processor doesnt play important role here.. however... it can be helpful in some cases.. bcoz dis laptop has common heat dissipation system for both gpu and cpu....

reducing clock speed is a best idea... but i dont recommend...



Well! i forgot to mention... this forum has good captcha system....

 

[vivek201]

did you try playing on battery? even I have drastic drops in fps after 10-15mins but only when its plugged in. when its on battery no drops in fps, no throttling. Its really weird.

its weird bcoz... while system running on batteries clock rates of gpu and cpu are controlled by BIOS/motherboard firmware... i.e. they are lowered....

 

[rider]

1. laptop isn't for gaming.

It's a myth dude. I think you are not familiar with new gen laptops.

since then there has been no lagging, temperature reduced drastically, and I did not notice any difference in performance.

I would like you ti suggest to put Noctua NT-H1 thermal paste on both CPU and GPU and it's better to arrange a Cooler master notepal infinite evo. My HD 6770M remains about 60-75*C while gaming, though I don't use any cooler pad.