Note for those looking to buy a GTX 460

[tkin]

@tkin
GeForce GTX 560 - Performance - GeForce
check the graphics performance chart in the link..

Also check out these (though these have user's opinions.)
Gigabyte GTX 460 SOV vs. GTX470 vs. GTX560 - Graphics-Cards - Graphic-Displays
GTX 470 or GTX 560? - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

and 560 can be easily OC'ed as compared to 470(which is very noisy and gets very hot) so it's a better card overall

The first link is from nVidia and they are always lying, all manufacturers lie about their products, so people would buy 560 instead of 470.

In the later links they are talking about GTX560 Ti, the 560 that you see selling for less is the normal 560, NOT the Ti model, this is a confusion nVidia created intentionally so people would screw up and buy the 560 which is slower that 560 Ti. The 560 Ti matches the 470 when heavily oc'ed, but the normal 560 is just too slow.

Open the links and see it properly, in both the links they are talking about 470 vs 560 Ti.

When the 560 Ti launched, the normal 560 was not even hinted by nVidia, so people dropped the Ti suffix when talking about it, like how we talk about AMD 8150 but don't always say FX8150, now if AMD launches a processor that's AMD 8150 which is slower than FX8150 we would mix up.

560 Ti: GeForce GTX 560 Ti - Specifications - GeForce
560: GeForce GTX 560 - Specifications - GeForce

Check and compare the specs.

 

[Reaper_vivek]

Clearly you didn't go through the links..they are talking abt 560..though they mention that Ti would be a better choice than others...

I know the diff b/w 560 and the Ti version..

Anyways the discussion was about 560 being better than 6870, which it clearly is..
FYI the non Ti version has just 48 cores locked as compared to the Ti one..so the performance difference isn't that much as you are implying

 

[tkin]

Clearly you didn't go through the links..they are talking abt 560..though they mention that Ti would be a better choice than others...

I know the diff b/w 560 and the Ti version..

Well, apparently you can't read then:

1st Link you posted: Gigabyte GTX 460 SOV vs. GTX470 vs. GTX560 - Graphics-Cards - Graphic-Displays

3rd post, user name barrymobiel gives review of GTX560 Ti, dunno why!

Go down a few posts, user name meganano(who is the original poster/thread starter) posts link to this card: Amazon.com: MSI GeForce GTX560 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express Video Card N560GTX TI TWIN FROZR II OC: Electronics
And also posts a review of 560 Ti
Conclusion : Five Overclocked GeForce GTX 560 Ti Cards, Compared

Just below that user name jtt283 posts link to this card: Newegg.com - ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

I can go on, but you get the point.

2nd Link you posted: GTX 470 or GTX 560? - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

The first post, in the freaking first post, thread starter/OP compares these two cards
Newegg.com - MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Newegg.com - EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

The top card, looks familiar?

A little below that user name rising powers talk about this card: Newegg.com - ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


So, its confirmed, you don't know the difference between 560Ti and 560 and then try to justify it

PS: I dunno why admins don't fix this forum, tried to post the entire post and it crashed with a database error, the link parser is botched and they do nothing to fix it.

 

[Reaper_vivek]

I stand corrected!!(I didn't go through the links) I was going about their discussion as they rarely mentioned Ti..

and I am not justifying nor do I need to abt the difference b/w the Ti and the older version

 

[tkin]

I stand corrected!!(I didn't go through the links) I was going about their discussion as they rarely mentioned Ti..

and I am not justifying nor do I need to abt the difference b/w the Ti and the older version

Its not your fault, since 560Ti was release we always refer to as 560, and normal 560 is called 560 non-Ti and no one buys that anyway.

 

[AcceleratorX]

Its not your fault, since 560Ti was release we always refer to as 560, and normal 560 is called 560 non-Ti and no one buys that anyway.

I don't know, if priced close to the 6870 it may actually be a very good option to go get a GTX 560 Non-Ti. Nothing wrong with either the 6870 or the 560 though, both are great cards for the price!

 

[tkin]

I don't know, if priced close to the 6870 it may actually be a very good option to go get a GTX 560 Non-Ti. Nothing wrong with either the 6870 or the 560 though, both are great cards for the price!

560 is a VFM card no doubt, I agree, but you cannot compare it with 470, 480, 560Ti, 570 or 580, it can be compared to 460 1GB or 6870.

 

[AcceleratorX]

560 is a VFM card no doubt, I agree, but you cannot compare it with 470, 480, 560Ti, 570 or 580, it can be compared to 460 1GB or 6870.

If you are speaking absolutely, then yes, most likely the 470 will beat the 560 overall. But have a look here:

Palit GeForce GTX 560 2 GB Review - Page 27/31 | techPowerUp

There are enough games where 560 is either very close or equal to the 470, and one game where it outright beats the 470 (COD: MW2). Given their summary, 100% vs. 106% isn't a huge difference, and thus these two cards can be "compared" since they still fall into the same performance category. Actually, if I look at the dynamics, 90% of the performance for <90% of the price is a very good deal however I might see it

GTX 470, however, has a clearer advantage in non-gaming applications.

BTW, NVIDIA's charts on the GeForce optimize site are actually a very good indicator of relative performance, at least from my experience comparing various NVIDIA cards. The deal is that GTX 470 and 560 have differently configured architectures and thus respond differently to different workloads. Witcher 2 particularly may be favouring the 460/560/560 Ti configuration. Note that even on NVIDIA's website, all games do not perform better on 560 vs. 470 - this is a particular case for Witcher 2 (and a few other games like Alice: Madness Returns).