New to assembled desktops - Guidance Required!

[NoasArcAngel]

dude just check the benchmarks... the card is capable of 30fps + so that shouldn't be a problem i hope ?

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@ Full HD resolutions

 

[coderunknown]

dude just check the benchmarks... the card is capable of 30fps + so that shouldn't be a problem i hope ?

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@ Full HD resolutions

yah. so almost all games will run smooth, but what asigh was telling is down the line, new games coming out. they will need even more power. so if OP sticks to casual gaming than this card will last for long time. if hardcore, he'll get nothing but appointment. & at first post OP mentioned "gaming once in a while" which i think is "causal". so he can use card for few years.

 

[NoasArcAngel]

according to this : 5750 for 8.1k ?

" Thanks guys for all your help
I finnaly bought the ATI Readon 5750 (MSI) for Rs.8150 from lamington. "

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1211564#post1211564

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yea even that's why i am trying to tell him ...

 

[coderunknown]

yea even that's why i am trying to tell him ...

he got it wrongly, i think.

 

[armon300]

@Noas
8.1k for 5750... Hmm.. It's listed here as 8400 INR. That much is acceptable difference I guess.

@Sam.Shab
Yep.. I'm a casual gamer.. Don't need anything too high but obviously don't want anything too low. Mid-end is fine for me for now..

Read my 1st post once again.. I'm still kind of confused whether to spend more on the RAM+MOBO or the GPU.

 

[Piyush]

@Noas
8.1k for 5750... Hmm.. It's listed here as 8400 INR. That much is acceptable difference I guess.

@Sam.Shab
Yep.. I'm a casual gamer.. Don't need anything too high but obviously don't want anything too low. Mid-end is fine for me for now..

Read my 1st post once again.. I'm still kind of confused whether to spend more on the RAM+MOBO or the GPU.

hey
i thot u finalized ur rig!!
well.....
since u r a casual gamer them go for RAM+MOBO combination
after that if ur gpu budget is around 8k then buy gts250/hd4850/hd5750

 

[armon300]

hey
i thot u finalized ur rig!!
well.....
since u r a casual gamer them go for RAM+MOBO combination
after that if ur gpu budget is around 8k then buy gts250/hd4850/hd5750

See.. I can't finalize it because some or the other person comes up with another contradiction/bashing up my config.
And this is a 1-time investment for me till 2-3 years in the future.. so that's why I need to make sure I get the right stuff. But within my budget.

And see.. now even you've changed your opinion to the RAM+Mobo whereas earlier you were saying to get the second option of putting more in the GPU... xDDDD

 

[Piyush]

See.. I can't finalize it because some or the other person comes up with another contradiction/bashing up my config.
And this is a 1-time investment for me till 2-3 years in the future.. so that's why I need to make sure I get the right stuff. But within my budget.

And see.. now even you've changed your opinion to the RAM+Mobo whereas earlier you were saying to get the second option of putting more in the GPU... xDDDD

oops ..
sorry bro
actually i forgot that u arnt going to play games seriously
and i totally agree with ya
even i will go in the same phase around diwali when i'll be upgrading my rig
sorry again
follow my last post that mentioned RAM+MOBO combo and 8k graphic cards

 

[armon300]

Yeah.. that's it.. I'll check up on a few more things and will get back here.

 

[coderunknown]

HD 4890 Xfire??? rofl WTF is that ?

its CrossFire. 2 ATI cards in parallel. u not know about it?

See.. I can't finalize it because some or the other person comes up with another contradiction/bashing up my config.
And this is a 1-time investment for me till 2-3 years in the future.. so that's why I need to make sure I get the right stuff. But within my budget.

And see.. now even you've changed your opinion to the RAM+Mobo whereas earlier you were saying to get the second option of putting more in the GPU... xDDDD

thats the work of forum members. argue so other get the best possible config (also best possible headache of one's life ). so heres what i think,

HD5670 or HD 4830 ---> 20" gaming.
HD 4850, HD 5750 or GTS 250 ---> 22" gaming.

so i think you may get a 22" monitor if you getting HD5750. but thing is after 2yrs only you "may" need to even sacrifice your casual gaming. cause of demand of graphics power in new games. but HD5750 + 20" wil last more. also the new Juniper GPU's (HD57**) can be OC quite a bit provided the graphics card comes with good cooler, not stock AMD design. so, future not looks too bad for your rig. go ahead.

& for mobo, get Biostar TA785G3 HD. stay away from Biostar TA785G3+ or MSI 785GM E51. they not support 140W proccy, means your upgrade path is closed. ram you may get value ram. no problem at all. anyway to OC you must lower the speed or use the divider or somethings............ its in the bios. so use saved money in getting HD5770 instead. or just save it

 

[FilledVoid]

Been going through the thread. Lots of good advice in them. Debating between components is fine but lets try to not get uptight about it folks . I'm doing some minor edits to the thread which does not pertain to anything technical which is regarding the posters requirements.

Also my 2 cents. Each person values his criteria for building a system in a different way hence you'll see a bit of conflicting opinion. Pick whatever fits your scenario right. If you plan on hardcore gaming or looking forward to go full HD or whatever Id be very picky on whatever GPU you choose. Also refer the article about Mismatching your GPU along with your Display which is a must read. I think one of the Mags carried an article about it which was kind of enlightening. (Picking an Optimal Display for whatever GPU you choose).

Cheers.

 

[NoasArcAngel]

yea.... okay anyways i saw what edits you did... removing that post was a good idea.... was in a very bad mood that time.... think should have done better if i tried to explain to him... thanks anyways

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@armon thanks i need all the luck in the world for a good score tomorrow...

 

[armon300]

@FilledVoid
Ahh.. thanks.. I was about to tell the concerned posters to do it themselves, but then thought it would cause even more tension. Will read up on that article as soon as I find it.

@NoasArcAngel
It'll be easy dude, don't sweat it.

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FINALLY, the rig is decided. So here's what I've chosen, any final suggestions/hints/tips/bashing/critiques about it, please post now, or forever hold your peace.

Motherboard = Biostar TA785G3 HD (3650 INR)

CPU/Processor = AMD Athlon II X4 630 (5100 INR)

Hard Drive = Western Digital 500GB Caviar Blue (2350 INR)

Monitor = BenQ G2020HD 20" LCD Monitor (6300 INR)

Cabinet = Cooler Master Elite 310 + 2x120MM CM fans (1550 + 300x2 = 2150 INR)

Power Supply = Corsair VX450 (3800 INR)

Keyboard = Logitech/Microsoft (700 INR)

Optical Drive = Sony Optiarc --=OR=-- LG 22X SATA DVD-RW (1100 INR)

OS = Windows 7 64Bit (100 INR)

Cooling = Cooler Master Hyper TX3 (1300 INR)

Memory/RAM = Kingston 4GB(2*2) 1333MHz DDR3 (4400 INR)

Graphic Card/GPU = ATI Radeon Sapphire HD5770 1GB (9800 INR) --=OR=-- (if squeezed by budget) ATI Radeon Sapphire HD5750 1GB (8200 INR)

UPS = APC 650VA (Won't add this to my budget)

 

[cosmos]

Whoa..Lot of discussions on this rig...

Nywaz nice final config dude..Go for it..

One of my friends got the CM Elite 310 for 2k just 2 weeks back here in Bangalore( he went for the side transparent panel one). So u can try to grab that if you like.

Nywaz i dnt think i can add or remove nything from thar rig as it looks great in that budget..Letz c wat others here have to shout about it.

Cheers,
Cosmos

 

[coderunknown]

@amron300, where u found Biostar TA785G3 HD for below 4k? it costs 4.3k

 

[Piyush]

@FilledVoid
Ahh.. thanks.. I was about to tell the concerned posters to do it themselves, but then thought it would cause even more tension. Will read up on that article as soon as I find it.

@NoasArcAngel
It'll be easy dude, don't sweat it.

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FINALLY, the rig is decided. So here's what I've chosen, any final suggestions/hints/tips/bashing/critiques about it, please post now, or forever hold your peace.

Motherboard = Biostar TA785G3 HD (3650 INR)

CPU/Processor = AMD Athlon II X4 630 (5100 INR)

Hard Drive = Western Digital 500GB Caviar Blue (2350 INR)

Monitor = BenQ G2020HD 20" LCD Monitor (6300 INR)

Cabinet = Cooler Master Elite 310 + 2x120MM CM fans (1550 + 300x2 = 2150 INR)

Power Supply = Corsair VX450 (3800 INR)

Keyboard = Logitech/Microsoft (700 INR)

Optical Drive = Sony Optiarc --=OR=-- LG 22X SATA DVD-RW (1100 INR)

OS = Windows 7 64Bit (100 INR)

Cooling = Cooler Master Hyper TX3 (1300 INR)

Memory/RAM = Kingston 4GB(2*2) 1333MHz DDR3 (4400 INR)

Graphic Card/GPU = ATI Radeon Sapphire HD5770 1GB (9800 INR) --=OR=-- (if squeezed by budget) ATI Radeon Sapphire HD5750 1GB (8200 INR)

UPS = APC 650VA (Won't add this to my budget)

looks ok
now the only thing left is ...
bargaining with the dealer..
gud luk

 

[NoasArcAngel]

wow finally exam over... was a breeze .. also nice config @armon300 also best of luck bargaining with smc dealer.... my frnds total was coming to 20,010 so he gave him ruppess 10 of...

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get the tx2 cooler master cpu cooler the tx3 has a heavy bracket... it could bend down it is quite heavy unless you plan to put your cpu case horizontally

 

[armon300]

@cosmos
Thanks man, and yeah, didn't leave any stone unturned.

@Sam.Shab
I quoted these prices from the "Latest Prices!!!" thread. Haven't gone to the market yet.

@piyush
Yeah, thanks!

@NoasArcAngel
Yeah, even my friends thought the paper was easy.
I'm still dicey about the cooler, because reading from other places, they only start getting a cooler when pure OC + beastly CPU/GPU is involved. So, I'm only going to get it if I get a Gskill/Corsair RAM + the HD5770.


Still a few more days till I get a chance to go buy it, Dad's busy this week.

 

[coderunknown]

@Sam.Shab
I quoted these prices from the "Latest Prices!!!" thread. Haven't gone to the market yet.

its for the Biostar TA785G3. G3 HD is totally different. looks, performance & the compatibility. G3 is cheapest 785G board available.

I'm still dicey about the cooler, because reading from other places, they only start getting a cooler when pure OC + beastly CPU/GPU is involved. So, I'm only going to get it if I get a Gskill/Corsair RAM + the HD5770.

you won't need a cooler if you wish OC X4 630 to say 3.2Ghz or below. the stock cooler good enough. if you follow AnandTech or Tom's Hardware you'll know 2 things, the die of the Athlon series very very small. so they never heats up that you need to get a OEM HSF. Anand even OC the 620/630 past 3.2Ghz on stock cooler at stock voltage. but OC'ing a phenom, even the X2's,one is seriously advised to get a good cooler if he not wants a dead proccy.

for your proccy i will never recommend get a aftermarket cooler until & unless you into serious OC. i mean 3.4Ghz & also incrementation of voltage, which wil really heat up any X4 6*0 proccy badly. but do get performance rams from Corsair. will ease your OC.

lets see what others say on the cooler stuff.

 

[armon300]

its for the Biostar TA785G3. G3 HD is totally different. looks, performance & the compatibility. G3 is cheapest 785G board available.



you won't need a cooler if you wish OC X4 630 to say 3.2Ghz or below. the stock cooler good enough. if you follow AnandTech or Tom's Hardware you'll know 2 things, the die of the Athlon series very very small. so they never heats up that you need to get a OEM HSF. Anand even OC the 620/630 past 3.2Ghz on stock cooler at stock voltage. but OC'ing a phenom, even the X2's,one is seriously advised to get a good cooler if he not wants a dead proccy.

for your proccy i will never recommend get a aftermarket cooler until & unless you into serious OC. i mean 3.4Ghz & also incrementation of voltage, which wil really heat up any X4 6*0 proccy badly. but do get performance rams from Corsair. will ease your OC.

lets see what others say on the cooler stuff.

Ahhh.. I knew it. I kept getting confused about the price, very similar names everywhere. Ok ok.. thanks for pointing it out.

I'm following both, plus TDF/TEF, it's the common scenario that even with AMD proccy (@NoasArcAngel), they only suggest cooling with serious/pure OC.
Hmm.. so does that mean Kingston RAM @4400 INR is a value ram?