New Gaming PC Config....Suggestions / Advice.

OP
summers

summers

Journeyman
So, guys the new config goes as (Flipkart prices, except for CPU/Mobo)

Processor AMD FX-8350 ~ 11500
Asus Sabertooth 990FX ~ 13500
Corsair Vengeance 4GBx2 1600 MHz CL9 ~ 3500
CPU Cooler CM Hyper 212 EVO ~ 2200
GPU Sapphire HD7870 2 GB HDMI OC Edition ~ 18000
HDD Toshiba 1 TB ~ 4000
SSD Samsung-840 120GB ~ 6200
PSU Seasonic S12II 620 ~ 5400
Bitfenix Merc Alpha USB 3.0 Version ~ 2900
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 7000
Total 74200


Now, since the budget is still exceeding, seems i've to go away with either the CPU cooler or change my mobo to Asus M5A99FX PRO Ver 2.0. I already have a Windows 7 Home Basic 32 Bit. Can it be upgraded to Home premium 64 Bit....?? If so, then i can save on the cost of New OS.
 
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NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
So, guys the new config goes as (Flipkart prices, except for CPU/Mobo)

Processor AMD FX-8350 ~ 11500
Asus Sabertooth 990FX ~ 13500
Corsair Vengeance 4GBx2 1600 MHz CL9 ~ 3500
CPU Cooler CM Hyper 212 EVO ~ 2200
GPU Sapphire HD7870 2 GB HDMI OC Edition ~ 18000
HDD Toshiba 1 TB ~ 4000
SSD Samsung-840 120GB ~ 6200
PSU Seasonic S12II 620 ~ 5400
Bitfenix Merc Alpha USB 3.0 Version ~ 2900
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 7000
Total 74200


Now, since the budget is still exceeding, seems i've to go away with either the CPU cooler or change my mobo to Asus M5A99FX PRO Ver 2.0. I already have a Windows 7 Home Basic 32 Bit. Can it be upgraded to Home premium 64 Bit....?? If so, then i can save on the cost of New OS.

you can get the fx 8350, but its overshooting your budget by a good amount. Even then there is no certainty that a 990FX board will be able to provide all features to the steamroller cpu in the future (if you are considering amd only for future proofing)

i suggest skip the SSD, or get intel :)

that thing is horribly optimized(read biased) for INTEL.

which is a benchmark not optimized (Read biased) to any processor? ill post them.

i cant hotlink images from hardware secrets... so i think you guys will have to read the results through here.

*www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=702

For people who are not aware, PC Mark and Sysmark suits are extremely biased to Intel CPU and there are instances where a GPU computing of nVidia Cards were behind a Quad Core not HT Intel CPU. That is the reason, none of the other manufacturers like AMD, nVidia, VIA etc, don't support these benchmarks. These benchmarks are based on Intel Compiler which checks the CPUID before deciding the optimized Code paths for a benchmark execution. If it is Original INtel, then it uses the optimized path and otherwise the most unbaptized path. It has been proven long back...I guess you guys are not aware of the VIA nano issue.

i see the Quad core AMD beating the i5 3470 to dust in the sys mark 2012. only in 1 benchmark

*images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6396/51132.png

*images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6396/51135.png

*images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/amd/Vishera/pred-cinebench1.png from -> *www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/7

*images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/amd/Vishera/pred-cinebenchx.png

I think OP will get confused now, so i will put up the main points in bold, suggesting why he should go for a intel based rig, others supporting amd kindly do the same.. And dont try to troll or the post will be reported and you will be banned.


1. Intel is more VFM, as for this current gen it beats the amd fx 8350 in almost all general uses except for some multithreaded apps, and 7zip etc.
2. Intel beats AMD handsdown in games, even if fps difference is 5-7 it will get more pronounced as new games come.
3. Overclocking any cpu, intel or amd will give a 15% gain at max in real world performance + good cooling ( 2k~4k on a new cooler + additional case fans )
4. AMD's steamroller which is highly anticipated has no clarity, We have no proof (as of yet) if the 990FX motherboards will support SR Processors, and if they do then what are the limitations
5. Future proofing with a 990FX seems a bad idea, because its 2013.. you wont change your config for atleast 2 years that means by the time its late 2014 or 2015 the pci-4 will be out.
6. Power requirement of SR processors is higher than the current vishera based cpus
7. You are going to end up spending a minimmum 22k on a bd upgradable package, a good motherboard and add another 3k = 25k
8. If you have to spend that much, get a gtx 680 / HD 7970 GHZ edition in the same budget which will result in better performance gains.



this is what i will suggest:

i5 3450 @ 10k
b75m mobo @ 4k
8gb drr3 @ 3k
Asus Matrix HD 7970 @ 35k
toshiba 1tb hdd @ 4k
corsair cx 500 @ 3.2k
nzxt gamma @ 2.5k

thats 60k , if you can find an update package for 3k ( 32bit to 64bit) and add a ssd for 6k , you have a killer rig.
 

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draco21

Dragon...Dragon...Dragon.
Matrix??

now that pc will beat anything in gaming......

@op even overclocking both cpu and gpu will not result in performances even close to 7970+i5 ...... it will be more future proof also.....

overclocking will only give cpu boost (wont be required for games)

Get i5+matrix
 

sumonpathak

knocking on heavens door
how is getting a 1155 setup more future proof when we all know haswell is coming in june?
am curious...
 

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
how is getting a 1155 setup more future proof when we all know haswell is coming in june?
am curious...

its not, thats the whole point. you cant do future proofing at this stage with intel / amd but you can build a config which is more vfm than what you would build when haswell releases, thats considering it launches in india by september/october or so... . if op has a choice he should ideally wait till haswell releases that means a years wait (till prices stabilize ) and get a system based on that, then again steamroller will be releasing... so we enter the circle of hell again.

lets see in the coming months what games can be considered as benchmarks..

from the looks of it, pci 4 will not be featured on haswell, that means it arrives 2014 end with DDR4 ram...

also considering the prices and acceptance of the sandybridge line in india, prices will get affordable for haswell only in its late cycle (1 year before )when the next cpu architecture arrives.
 
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Cilus

laborare est orare
So, guys the new config goes as (Flipkart prices, except for CPU/Mobo)

Processor AMD FX-8350 ~ 11500
Asus Sabertooth 990FX ~ 13500
Corsair Vengeance 4GBx2 1600 MHz CL9 ~ 3500
CPU Cooler CM Hyper 212 EVO ~ 2200
GPU Sapphire HD7870 2 GB HDMI OC Edition ~ 18000
HDD Toshiba 1 TB ~ 4000
SSD Samsung-840 120GB ~ 6200
PSU Seasonic S12II 620 ~ 5400
Bitfenix Merc Alpha USB 3.0 Version ~ 2900
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 7000
Total 74200


Now, since the budget is still exceeding, seems i've to go away with either the CPU cooler or change my mobo to Asus M5A99FX PRO Ver 2.0. I already have a Windows 7 Home Basic 32 Bit. Can it be upgraded to Home premium 64 Bit....?? If so, then i can save on the cost of New OS.

Summer, the price of the GPU is very high. In fact on that price you can get a new card called HD 7870 LE or HD 7870 XT which is a stripped down version of HD 7950 and good amount of faster than HD 7870. You can get the card from here: SAPPHIRE GRAPHICS CARD HD 7870 2GB DDR5 XT WITH BOOST

And normal HD 7870 is available at 16.38K. Search - 7870

NoasArcAngel, with the new games becoming multi-threaded, the performance difference between an i5/i7 and FX-8350 will not increase in Intel's favor, it will be narrowed down. Crysis 3 is a perfect example of it.

4. AMD's Bulldozer which is highly anticipated has no clarity, We have no proof (as of yet) if the 990FX motherboards will support BD Processors, and if they do then what are the limitations
And what the hell you are talking about Bulldozer Processor and 990FX motherboard compatibility?
 

Myth

Cyborg Agent
OP has decided on the config. I dont think any more discussion is required on the topic.

At the moment, its best to help OP get the right rates for the components.

@OP: Gpu is overpriced as Cilus said.
Might I suggest you skip the ssd for now and take the Sapphire 7950 vaporx @ 21.5k :razz:

If you require fans, check the CM 90cfm fans @ 500 each. Good silent performers.
 

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
NoasArcAngel, with the new games becoming multi-threaded, the performance difference between an i5/i7 and FX-8350 will not increase in Intel's favor, it will be narrowed down. Crysis 3 is a perfect example of it.

specially since crysis only uses 8 threads at the max, and it doesnt even fully utilize hyperthreading on intel processors. I am wondering what kind of a comparison you are making this out to be?

we will see about that.

And what the hell you are talking about Bulldozer Processor and 990FX motherboard compatibility?

sorry, was a typo. with so many dozers and rollers i confused steam and the bull .. actually what i have posted is not wrong, steamroller is a 3rd generation Bulldozer cpu.

Now if you factor in a better quality supporting chipset ( compare a B75 mobo with a 970 based M5A97) and thus a feature rich motherbaord and some overclocking which wont be possible with the Intel (NonK and Z) in any of the mentioned aspects, not bad at all. And then comes the upgradability part and the future. Haswell will play doom to 1155 but steamroller wont. Keeping those aspects in mind and multi core gaming in mind for the future (which you will disagree at present) I dont think we should write off AMD as a value offering at present in that particular segment.

with massive restructuring at AMD, and further job cuts steamroller is being set for release in 2014-2015, earlier it was 2013.... im pretty sure if amd releases steamroller in 2014, its not a AM3+

OP has decided on the config. I dont think any more discussion is required on the topic.

At the moment, its best to help OP get the right rates for the components.

@OP: Gpu is overpriced as Cilus said.
Might I suggest you skip the ssd for now and take the Sapphire 7950 vaporx @ 21.5k :razz:

If you require fans, check the CM 90cfm fans @ 500 each. Good silent performers.

+1 ......
 
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The Incinerator

Human Spambot
Processor AMD FX-8350 ~ 11500
Asus Sabertooth 990FX ~ 13500
G.Skill RipjawsX(1600MHz)(F3-12800CL9S) 4GB*2 - Rs 3500
CPU Cooler CM Hyper 212 EVO ~ 2200
GPU Sapphire HD7950 VaporX ~ Rs 21,700
HDD Toshiba 1 TB ~ 4000
PSU CORSAIR SMPS TX 650 V2 ~ 5500
Bitfenix Merc Alpha USB 3.0 Version ~ 2900
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 7000

Total - 71,800.

Just a little alteration.If you can do away with the SSD for now you will have a killer rig in all aspects.The Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB has better performance and speed than the 1TB Toshiba you have chosen,but yes that would again cost Rs 1850 more.
 

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
Processor AMD FX-8350 ~ 11500
Asus Sabertooth 990FX ~ 13500
G.Skill RipjawsX(1600MHz)(F3-12800CL9S) 4GB*2 - Rs 3500
CPU Cooler CM Hyper 212 EVO ~ 2200
GPU Sapphire HD7950 VaporX ~ Rs 21,700
HDD Toshiba 1 TB ~ 4000
PSU CORSAIR SMPS TX 650 V2 ~ 5500
Bitfenix Merc Alpha USB 3.0 Version ~ 2900
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 7000

Total - 71,800.

Just a little alteration.If you can do away with the SSD for now you will have a killer rig in all aspects.The Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB has better performance and speed than the 1TB Toshiba you have chosen,but yes that would again cost Rs 1850 more.

I think OP will get confused now, so i will put up the main points in bold, suggesting why he should go for a intel based rig, others supporting amd kindly do the same..

why not a 7970 ? which op can easily afford?

@OP make it clear once and for all what have you decided finally, or this is going to end up a 10 page thread.

^^
Exactly, now if I save on the CPU and get a better GPU then the FPS drop becomes an immediate non issue. Is it not?
 
OP
summers

summers

Journeyman
Processor AMD FX-8350 ~ 11500
Asus Sabertooth 990FX ~ 13500
G.Skill RipjawsX(1600MHz)(F3-12800CL9S) 4GB*2 - Rs 3500
CPU Cooler CM Hyper 212 EVO ~ 2200
GPU Sapphire HD7950 VaporX ~ Rs 21,700
HDD Toshiba 1 TB ~ 4000
PSU CORSAIR SMPS TX 650 V2 ~ 5500
Bitfenix Merc Alpha USB 3.0 Version ~ 2900
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 7000

Total - 71,800.

Just a little alteration.If you can do away with the SSD for now you will have a killer rig in all aspects.The Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB has better performance and speed than the 1TB Toshiba you have chosen,but yes that would again cost Rs 1850 more.

Guess, i've to drop the SSD for now. I'll purchase it later, when i'll have money for the same. This seems to be a nice rig, except i've a doubt regarding Sapphire HD7950 VaporX.
I've read on the net that 7950 Vapor-X runs hot and has some bios issues....

Sapphire HD7950 3GB Vapor-X Review
 

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
Guess, i've to drop the SSD for now. I'll purchase it later, when i'll have money for the same. This seems to be a nice rig, except i've a doubt regarding Sapphire HD7950 VaporX.
I've read on the net that 7950 Vapor-X runs hot and has some bios issues....

Sapphire HD7950 3GB Vapor-X Review

is this your final config then? no spec changes?
 

Myth

Cyborg Agent
Guess, i've to drop the SSD for now. I'll purchase it later, when i'll have money for the same. This seems to be a nice rig, except i've a doubt regarding Sapphire HD7950 VaporX.
I've read on the net that 7950 Vapor-X runs hot and has some bios issues....

Sapphire HD7950 3GB Vapor-X Review

A lot of people here own that particular gpu including myself. Havent heard of such problems yet.
 

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
no such issues man.....

i dont think so, could be a defective piece.... but we need to confirm this :

oc to : (1155 / 1600, GPU voltage 1.025v memory voltage 1.6v) and run at full load, lets see what temp we get... that guy is claiming 81.. which is kinda pretty hot.

Guess, i've to drop the SSD for now. I'll purchase it later, when i'll have money for the same. This seems to be a nice rig, except i've a doubt regarding Sapphire HD7950 VaporX.
I've read on the net that 7950 Vapor-X runs hot and has some bios issues....

Sapphire HD7950 3GB Vapor-X Review

ssd prices will drop in another 3-4 months faster than ever... so i'd go without an ssd for now.
 
OP
summers

summers

Journeyman
Then, i think guys i'll stick to this config.

Processor AMD FX-8350 ~ 11500
Asus Sabertooth 990FX ~ 13500
G.Skill RipjawsX(1600MHz)(F3-12800CL9S) 4GB*2 - Rs 3500
CPU Cooler CM Hyper 212 EVO ~ 2200
GPU Sapphire HD7950 VaporX ~ Rs 21,700
HDD Toshiba 1 TB ~ 4000
PSU CORSAIR TX 650 V2 ~ 5500
Bitfenix Merc Alpha USB 3.0 Version ~ 2900
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 7000

and i'll start buying the components one by one from flipkart/other online retailers.

I express thanks to all the members who have contributed here and helped me decide the config.
 

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
Then, i think guys i'll stick to this config.

Processor AMD FX-8350 ~ 11500
Asus Sabertooth 990FX ~ 13500
G.Skill RipjawsX(1600MHz)(F3-12800CL9S) 4GB*2 - Rs 3500
CPU Cooler CM Hyper 212 EVO ~ 2200
GPU Sapphire HD7950 VaporX ~ Rs 21,700
HDD Toshiba 1 TB ~ 4000
PSU CORSAIR TX 650 V2 ~ 5500
Bitfenix Merc Alpha USB 3.0 Version ~ 2900
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 7000

and i'll start buying the components one by one from flipkart/other online retailers.

I express thanks to all the members who have contributed here and helped me decide the config.

well done :) post the pics when you are done.
 
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