New Gaming PC Config....Suggestions / Advice.

[NoasArcAngel]

i5-3470- 10k
kingston value ram 4gb*2- 2.8k
h77 mobo- 5.5k
seasonic eco 500- 4k
barracuda 2gb- 5k
kingston v300- 6k
nzxt source 2.8k
samsung dvd rw 0.8k
gigabyte 7970 oc 28k
total 65k

and if you still wish to spend more
msi g45ma -8k
cm 212 evo 2.2k
total 70k

he also has to buy 7k windows in that budget ^, sacrifice the 3470 for the 3450 and some $$$$, cabinet can be changed to gamma @ 2.1k and rest is all good

 

[summers]

Why do you want a 990fx mobo? Its not like intel that you cant overclock without a z77/z68/p67 mobo. And amd's 970 chipset give you cf/sli, >2 sata 6gbps. You can get msi 940a g46. It has every feature you need, couple it up with a cm 212 evo. I havent seen intel 840 that cheap. The kingston one I recommended is one of the cheapest ssd with synchronous flash I could find.

My friends suggested me not to compromise on processor/mobo as it will be the last thing i would be upgrading, if required at a later stage. These days technology gets old pretty soon and hence the decision to go for latest 990FX mobo....kind of future proofing.

op should take suggestion for the i5 3450 else, he can chose a cheaper board. I hope op is not trying to beat the world record by using an AMD processor...

No my friend, the basic idea of choosing FX-8350 is that i can overclock it at a later stage when required, so that my system will still be able to run the games /programs in future. I am just trying to make it furture proof so that it may work for 4-5 years ahead.

 

[NoasArcAngel]

My friends suggested me not to compromise on processor/mobo as it will be the last thing i would be upgrading, if required at a later stage. These days technology gets old pretty soon and hence the decision to go for latest 990FX mobo....kind of future proofing.

thats the opposite of future proofing, intel is already releasing haswell which will be based on a different socket, and so will amd... Why spend so much money on a cpu architecture which has been here for almost a year..? also you dont consider that for gaming, the i5 thrashes the fx 8350 and its cheaper

My friends suggested me not to compromise on processor/mobo as it will be the last thing i would be upgrading, if required at a later stage. These days technology gets old pretty soon and hence the decision to go for latest 990FX mobo....kind of future proofing.



No my friend, the basic idea of choosing FX-8350 is that i can overclock it at a later stage when required, so that my system will still be able to run the games /programs in future. I am just trying to make it furture proof so that it may work for 4-5 years ahead.

overclocking a cpu will not make a very big perfomance gain, it will be 25% at max

and thats running your cpu @ 1ghz over stock. For that you need some serious cooling and you are also risking your components let alone decreasing product life.

at the current rate, there is no future proofing... your pc will be able to just run the games in future at a certain resolution.... it will run them, but at something like 1080p if you are considering a 7970.... ( after 4 years, 4k will be the standard )

 

[summers]

thats the opposite of future proofing, intel is already releasing haswell which will be based on a different socket, and so will amd... Why spend so much money on a cpu architecture which has been here for almost a year..? also you dont consider that for gaming, the i5 thrashes the fx 8350 and its cheaper



overclocking a cpu will not make a very big perfomance gain, it will be 25% at max

and thats running your cpu @ 1ghz over stock. For that you need some serious cooling and you are also risking your components let alone decreasing product life.

at the current rate, there is no future proofing... your pc will be able to just run the games in future at a certain resolution.... it will run them, but at something like 1080p if you are considering a 7970.... ( after 4 years, 4k will be the standard )

So, should i drop the AMD and go with Intel config as suggested..??

 

[vaibhavs800]

No my friend, the basic idea of choosing FX-8350 is that i can overclock it at a later stage when required, so that my system will still be able to run the games /programs in future. I am just trying to make it furture proof so that it may work for 4-5 years ahead.

990fx does not add even one feature to 970. If you have an unlimited budget go with that. Today a 7870 beats a 6970. Unless you have gtx 690, you will be easily knocked to mid range next year and lower mid range year after that. Anyways fx 8350 is already clocked at 4.2ghz, and most probably, you wont go above 4.6ghz, thats an overclock of 400mhz which is same for every intel i5. At this budget go with the rig I suggested for 65k and add a windows license to it.

 

[ChairmanSaab]

My friends suggested me not to compromise on processor/mobo as it will be the last thing i would be upgrading, if required at a later stage. These days technology gets old pretty soon and hence the decision to go for latest 990FX mobo....kind of future proofing.



No my friend, the basic idea of choosing FX-8350 is that i can overclock it at a later stage when required, so that my system will still be able to run the games /programs in future. I am just trying to make it furture proof so that it may work for 4-5 years ahead.

Dude ,they are actually few applications and games that make use more than 2 cores. So you are future proof even if you have got 3 year old dual core

If you are into intensive resource hog games like Crysis 3 , BF3 etc then the word " Future proof " is not applicable herein atleast. You have to buy a new CPU + Mobo + Graphic card every year to keep up with latest titles else get ready for bad exprience.

As suggested by many choose an I5 3470 or 3450 along with a decent mobo. It will give you good gaming performance and would be faster than Amd 8350 in day to day tasks.

Amd 8350 uses 20-30% more power underload than intel 3470 , 3570 or similar models. Hence you will be paying 20-30% more electricity bill annualy.

If you still want to go with Amd 8350 then go ahead and buy it. No one is forcing you to choose intel.

 

[harshilsharma63]

Dude ,they are actually few applications and games that make use more than 2 cores. So you are future proof even if you have got 3 year old dual core

If you are into intensive resource hog games like Crysis 3 , BF3 etc then the word " Future proof " is not applicable herein atleast. You have to buy a new CPU + Mobo + Graphic card every year to keep up with latest titles else get ready for bad exprience.

As suggested by many choose an I5 3470 or 3450 along with a decent mobo. It will give you good gaming performance and would be faster than Amd 8350 in day to day tasks.

Amd 8350 uses 20-30% more power underload than intel 3470 , 3570 or similar models. Hence you will be paying 20-30% more electricity bill annualy.

If you still want to go with Amd 8350 then go ahead and buy it. No one is forcing you to choose intel.

Absolutely wrong. More and more new games utilize 4 cores and daily apps like 7 zip, video conversion, and many more can and do utilize even more cores. In 7 zip benchmark, the FX 8350 stands just below the i7 3770k.

 

[The Incinerator]

summer........Ill make it easy for you

If gaming is your primary requirement then get an i5 , but if you requirement is for some pro work like 3D modelling/rendering, encoding multi threaded work in general and gaming get an FX8350. Please be very clear about whether you want to overclock or not. Because if you are not sure about oveclocking you will unnecessarily end up spending Rs 10000 ,which otherwise can get you a better/powerful GPU or a bigger monitor.

 

[hitesh]

thats the opposite of future proofing, intel is already releasing haswell which will be based on a different socket, and so will amd... Why spend so much money on a cpu architecture which has been here for almost a year..? also you dont consider that for gaming, the i5 thrashes the fx 8350 and its cheaper

overclocking a cpu will not make a very big perfomance gain, it will be 25% at max

and thats running your cpu @ 1ghz over stock. For that you need some serious cooling and you are also risking your components let alone decreasing product life.

at the current rate, there is no future proofing... your pc will be able to just run the games in future at a certain resolution.... it will run them, but at something like 1080p if you are considering a 7970.... ( after 4 years, 4k will be the standard )

+1
Well explained

So, should i drop the AMD and go with Intel config as suggested..??

Yes, you should

Absolutely wrong. More and more new games utilize 4 cores and daily apps like 7 zip, video conversion, and many more can and do utilize even more cores. In 7 zip benchmark, the FX 8350 stands just below the i7 3770k.

Gaming is the priority, so rest aside, i5>8350

 

[summers]

Guys, please go through this thread..Seems guys are recommending different things in two different threads for same requirement.

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/pc-components-configurations/170963-60k-gaming-rig-d.html

and do read the posts of Cilus / Ico regarding FX-8350 being used for a gaming rig....

and don't get me wrong guys, but m too convinced with what Cilus has said.

 

[NoasArcAngel]

Guys, please go through this thread..Seems guys are recommending different things in two different threads for same requirement.

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/pc-components-configurations/170963-60k-gaming-rig-d.html

and do read the posts of Cilus / Ico regarding FX-8350 being used for a gaming rig....

and don't get me wrong guys, but m too convinced with what Cilus has said.

With fx8350, you get an awesome mobo at a low price. Also its 16mb cache is very useful for other purposes. And it can also be overlooked easily with desktop utilities even on the stock cooler.
Surely it cannot beat a i5-3750k in gaming, but we cannot expect to lag behind i5 too.

well there you have your answer

*media.bestofmicro.com/O/M/375430/original/Crysis3-CPU.png

 

[summers]

well there you have your answer

*media.bestofmicro.com/O/M/375430/original/Crysis3-CPU.png

If you go by the min FPS, then the game is not playable on any of the processors. The almighty i7s are giving mere 33 fps, which is in no way a smooth game play. There are few demanding situations in the game, when the frames drop significantly and the game stutters at that moment. What is more desirable is the average fps delivered, and the average fps of 8350 is at par with i5.

 

[NoasArcAngel]

If you go by the min FPS, then the game is not playable on any of the processors. The almighty i7s are giving mere 33 fps, which is in no way a smooth game play. There are few demanding situations in the game, when the frames drop significantly and the game stutters at that moment. What is more desirable is the average fps delived, and the average fps of 8350 is at par with i5.

you understand right, minimum fps drop should not be below 30? anyways below 60 fps gameplay is choppy.

so if you want to play fanboy, be my guest and get a fx 8350 ... but there is really no use of an octacore processor

*www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-i5-3470-CPU-Review/1657/3

*www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-i5-3470-CPU-Review/1657/4

*www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-i5-3470-CPU-Review/1657/5

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/attachments/pc-components-configurations/9364d1362933539-new-gaming-pc-config-suggestions-advice-imageview.gif



*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/attachments/pc-components-configurations/9365d1362933605-new-gaming-pc-config-suggestions-advice-imageview-1-.gif

 

[hitesh]

There you go -

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*media.bestofmicro.com/Z/2/357662/original/world%20of%20warcraft%201680.png

*media.bestofmicro.com/Z/3/357663/original/world%20of%20warcraft%201920.png

 

[NoasArcAngel]

i think those graphs, are enough to prove to OP that the i5 is the way to go for gaming.

 

[hitesh]

i think those graphs, are enough to prove to OP that the i5 is the way to go for gaming.

Yes
I don't see any reason for choosing 8350 over i5 for gaming

 

[The Incinerator]

You guys are stressing too much on two specific games.....only. What about other games....can you provide some benchmarks.

 

[NoasArcAngel]

You guys are stressing too much on two specific games.....only. What about other games....can you provide some benchmarks.

dude, first you say that games like crysis are the future, and then you say you are stressing on only 2 games. So tell me who is right and who is wrong?

You guys are stressing too much on two specific games.....only. What about other games....can you provide some benchmarks.

*media.bestofmicro.com/9/G/364516/original/CPU-scaling.png

*media.bestofmicro.com/Y/X/313593/original/cpu%20scaling.png

*www.legionhardware.com/images/review/AMD_FX-8350_FX-6300/Gaming_03.png

*www.techspot.com/articles-info/586/bench/Gaming_03.png

*www.techspot.com/articles-info/586/bench/Memory_02.png

*www.techspot.com/articles-info/608/bench/CPU_01.png

*images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/CPU/FX-8350/FX-8350-65.jpg

*techreport.com/r.x/amd-fx-8350/civv-lgv.gif

*www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/fx-8350-8320-6300-4300/batman.png

You guys are stressing too much on two specific games.....only. What about other games....can you provide some benchmarks.

next time try using google.

while moving from crysis 2 to crysis 3 the gap is widening, and crysis 3 being able to utilize almost all cores... we have a clear winner,

@the incinerator : or shall the OP buy the 8350 only?

 

[draco21]

Hmmm... this is getting intresting.....

@op what did you decide about overclocking??

Get i5 3450 and a good b75 mobo and 7870(or higher) and you are ready to take on any game for next 2-3 years......

oc'ing is a hassle dont get into it.........

8350 is a value for money processor which is being proved useless here for no reason whatsoever..... everyone knows that it is not good for gaming and is just below i7 when it comes to multi threaded stuff so it is meant for those who have works like photoshop and all and also play some games on a limited budget......

@smn abusing cilus

what **** did he post??

 

[The Incinerator]

*www.techspot.com/articles-info/642/bench/CPU_03.png

*www.techspot.com/articles-info/615/bench/CPU_01.png


Not that bad as you are describing is it?

Now if you factor in a better quality supporting chipset ( compare a B75 mobo with a 970 based M5A97) and thus a feature rich motherbaord and some overclocking which wont be possible with the Intel (NonK and Z) in any of the mentioned aspects, not bad at all. And then comes the upgradability part and the future. Haswell will play doom to 1155 but steamroller wont. Keeping those aspects in mind and multi core gaming in mind for the future (which you will disagree at present) I dont think we should write off AMD as a value offering at present in that particular segment.