Need suggestions for a system Overhaul @ around 40K

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Here's one link:- 6 Facts About AMD's black AM3b socket: The AM3 vs AM3+ match

Go to point no. 6. It seems like old retention brackets for AM3 CPUs may work.
 
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mukherjee

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I was reading some reviews, looks like the H60 is not such a god performer after all, specially if you are oc'ing, need to read more reviews.

Ya...maybe...imho getting CM N620 will save some money...can spend it else where...

What abt a NZXT Sentry 2 fan controller? Is it any good? For around 2100(shipping included)?

On a side note,what at all we gain by using a fan controller?
 

tkin

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Ya...maybe...imho getting CM N620 will save some money...can spend it else where...

What abt a NZXT Sentry 2 fan controller? Is it any good? For around 2100(shipping included)?

On a side note,what at all we gain by using a fan controller?
The fan controller is good, planning on getting it next month when I go to mumbai for a trip, it can control fan speed, moreover it has 5 temperature sensing diodes to measure temp around case, and it just look so cool.
 
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mukherjee

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Get it down to 4k incl. taxes and I am game.

Yes that would be nice...but then,doesn't the H50 cost 4550+tax now?

I frankly don't know whom to trust about this....

If I go for the H60,maybe I need to curtail on the 8GB of RAM and get 4GB instead... :cry:
 

tkin

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Yes that would be nice...but then,doesn't the H50 cost 4550+tax now?

I frankly don't know whom to trust about this....

If I go for the H60,maybe I need to curtail on the 8GB of RAM and get 4GB instead... :cry:
Ditch the H coolers, get a noctua U12P-SE2, that would be 4k incl shipping from itwares, comes with 2 bundles fans and very nice performance(google for some reviews), also won't cause any issue with ram height.

If I get Gskill 4GB modules in kolkata I will buy the Noctua D14 cooler, best cooler money can buy, vengeance modules are too tall.

I just figured out corsair's reason for those tall ram modules, it is to prevent people from using air cooler so that they are forced to buy the H coolers from them, there's no reason the vengeance should have such tall heatsinks on them when xms uses the same rams with higher voltage, very $hitty policy from corsair if you ask me, and before anyone jumps out about XMS3 rams, the memory QVL for asus Z68 boards do not list xms modules, specially for 1600MHz models, only vengeance modules are listed.
 
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mukherjee

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Ditch the H coolers, get a noctua U12P-SE2, that would be 4k incl shipping from itwares, comes with 2 bundles fans and very nice performance(google for some reviews), also won't cause any issue with ram height.

If I get Gskill 4GB modules in kolkata I will buy the Noctua D14 cooler, best cooler money can buy, vengeance modules are too tall.

I just figured out corsair's reason for those tall ram modules, it is to prevent people from using air cooler so that they are forced to buy the H coolers from them, there's no reason the vengeance should have such tall heatsinks on them when xms uses the same rams with higher voltage, very $hitty policy from corsair if you ask me, and before anyone jumps out about XMS3 rams, the memory QVL for asus Z68 boards do not list xms modules, specially for 1600MHz models, only vengeance modules are listed.

I see your point...now i have unearthed something

Here u can find that the height of both Corsair XMS3 and GSkill Ripjaws is ~41mm.

Also from here the height of Ripjaws X is ~40mm

From here the height of Corsair Vengeance modules comes to ~50mm

I have also decided to go for the CM Hyper N620 as it will be sufficient for my needs...no need to get the U12PSE2 shipped and all...
However the clearance (from here) of the N620 appears to be ~40mm...

Will it cause any problems????...
 

tkin

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I see your point...now i have unearthed something

Here u can find that the height of both Corsair XMS3 and GSkill Ripjaws is ~41mm.

Also from here the height of Ripjaws X is ~40mm

From here the height of Corsair Vengeance modules comes to ~50mm

I have also decided to go for the CM Hyper N620 as it will be sufficient for my needs...no need to get the U12PSE2 shipped and all...
However the clearance (from here) of the N620 appears to be ~40mm...

Will it cause any problems????...
Noctua U12P's fan can be lifted along the fins, so as long as the actual heatsink does not cover the ram slots, I am fine, if the N620 heatsink covers the ram slot, or the fans do and cannot be lifted like noctua then there will be trouble, try doing some more research.

Noctua U12P fans can be lifted:
*www.noctua.at/images/faqs/nh_u12p_fan_higher.jpg
If the heatsink clears the ram slots I can lift the fans a little bit, but it might cause trouble for you, try to measure the max cooler height for your cabinet(I couldn't find it listed for your 430 on cooler master website).

Now max cooler height for my CM HAF 912 is 175mm, noctua U12P is 160mm, so that still leaves me with 15mm free space, noctua heatsink is 40mm high, add 15mm to that and I can fit the 52mm vengeance ram by lifting the fan, but first I have to make sure the heatsink is not covering the ram slots.

This trouble will not occur for Gskill rams, its 40mm, I just mailed smc about support for gskill memory in kolkata, if its supported in kolkata I will get that.
 
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mukherjee

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Noctua U12P's fan can be lifted along the fins, so as long as the actual heatsink does not cover the ram slots, I am fine, if the N620 heatsink covers the ram slot, or the fans do and cannot be lifted like noctua then there will be trouble, try doing some more research.

Noctua U12P fans can be lifted:
*www.noctua.at/images/faqs/nh_u12p_fan_higher.jpg
If the heatsink clears the ram slots I can lift the fans a little bit, but it might cause trouble for you, try to measure the max cooler height for your cabinet(I couldn't find it listed for your 430 on cooler master website).

Now max cooler height for my CM HAf 912 is 175mm, noctua U12P is 160mm, so that still leaves me with 15mm free space, noctua heatsink is 40mm high, add 15mm to that and I can fit the 52mm vengeance ram by lifting the fan, but firs I have to make sure the heatsink is not covering the ram slots.

Its about 163mm from here

So I'm good in that account...now the thing remains to be verified whether the heatsink covers the RAM slots
 

tkin

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Its about 163mm from here

So I'm good in that account...now the thing remains to be verified whether the heatsink covers the RAM slots
It depends, the noctua allows the fans to be repositioned, does the N620 allow it?

163mm-Noctua heatsink height(158mm)=5mm
Vengeance height(52mm) - Noctua heatsink clearance(40mm)=12mm

12mm is not equal to 5mm, so it won't fit, not even by repositioning the fan, you won't be able to close the side panel, you need atleast 170mm for it(give or take 2mm)

PS: Pictures of when your H70 pump decides to blow up! - [H]ard|Forum

Simple calculation, fan height(120mm)+Ram height(52mm)=172mm
 
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mukherjee

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It depends, the noctua allows the fans to be repositioned, does the N620 allow it?

163mm-Noctua heatsink height(158mm)=5mm
Vengeance height(52mm) - Noctua heatsink clearance(40mm)=12mm

12mm is not equal to 5mm, so it won't fit, not even by repositioning the fan, you won't be able to close the side panel, you need atleast 170mm for it(give or take 2mm)

PS: Pictures of when your H70 pump decides to blow up! - [H]ard|Forum

Simple calculation, fan height(120mm)+Ram height(52mm)=172mm

Yeah...we posted the same thing together :D

Maybe I'll buy the RAM after I get a good look on the mobo,cpu and N620 positioning and then go for Gskill or Vengeance...really,if the Gskill Ripjaws X 1600 Mhz CL 8 modules were available...would have gone for them eyes closed... :)
 

tkin

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Yeah...we posted the same thing together :D

Maybe I'll buy the RAM after I get a good look on the mobo,cpu and N620 positioning and then go for Gskill or Vengeance...really,if the Gskill Ripjaws X 1600 Mhz CL 8 modules were available...would have gone for them eyes closed... :)
If you buy the rams first, then you are stuck, I suggest going to tirupati to see whether they will import some Gskill kits for us, maybe a back order if we buy total of 4 modules(2x4GB Each), lets visit tirupati on 1st june.
 
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mukherjee

mukherjee

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If you buy the rams first, then you are stuck, I suggest going to tirupati to see whether they will import some Gskill kits for us, maybe a back order if we buy total of 4 modules(2x4GB Each), lets visit tirupati on 1st june.

Hell yeah....I know their office on Robert Street....lets go on 1st June then...
 
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