need rig purely for 3d modelling/ rendering and occasional gaming (65k max budget)

vkl

Cyborg Agent
^^
It is not about quadro or firepro but better performing card for the price.At their price points firepro v3900,v4800,v4900 are better in most of the 3D rendering/CAD applications than any quadro in similar price range.But then one also has to look for what applications he/she is going to use and does any series/card has better performance than other in those applications.

Anyway OP is not buying a professional card since he also needs gaming performance.GCN based HD7000 series do have a good amount of compute power.
 

Sup

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For Processor, I think you should chose between i7 2600 and 3770. i7 2600 is also hyper threaded and can process 8 threads simultaneously. It also has advantage over 3550 in Multi-threaded applications. i5 3550 is a choice for Gamers, not for 3D Modelling.
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Do get a i7 and for the graphics card choose the quadro 600. Don't forget your primary purpose.
It seems you were at the right track for building the pc but somehow you got lured into building a gaming PC.


Anyway if still decide to get the 6850 don't get the cx 430. I suppose your Pc will be on for days that to at load, the cx430 is rated at mere 25 degree C and add the capicitor aging and bam you get a very short life out of it.
 
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prashanthada

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@sup which power supply do you recommend then ??

so guys will be buying on Saturday from Nehru place in Delhi. as am busy with office so didn't bought till now.
i have turned the PC criteria to a full on gaming system ( with no overclocking ). here are the specs"
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1. processor - i5-3570
2. mobo - gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H
3. graphics card - SAPPHIRE HD 7850 2GB GDDR5
4. harddisk wd cavier blue WD10EZEX 1tb 64mb cache
5. ram - G.Skill RipjawsX 1x8 1600mhz
6. psu - cx430v2
7. cooling - Hyper TX3 Evo
8. case - cm elite 311plus
9. ups - APC 700VA
10. monitor - lg 23" full hd
11. keyboard/mouse - logitech g100
12. dvd rom - hp


am fine with everything and now have better understanding of computers, thanks to you people and think digit :)
the above config looks fine to me please comment on the same? will this be able to play all the latest games and coming versions???

now after i buy this system the next upgrade ill be making in one year is add 8gb more ram add an ssd and add one more graphics card in crossfire.
that's the only upgrade i can do with system without changing major
. so please let me the know the power supply mentioned above will be able to take a crossfire??
i want the psu to be enough that it can go on with out any changes in it for the above upgrade. i want to invest now rather then changing everything later on. and also don't want to compromise over the specs.

with the 15 3570 and h77 route i want to build the best spec possible.
i tried calculating the power on *www.extreme.outervision.com
i don't know how to put all the components if somebody can calculate n lemme know the exact i need and the buffer i can keep and buy a good psu which is enough for now and also for the upgrade ill be making next year for sure.

please take into account that my pc will be running at full loads for long hours at a streach atleast 3 4 times a week.

please upgrade or suggest add ons to the above built that is best in i5 3570 n h77 mode.
thanks
:D:shock: waiting for replies today itself.............
 

vkl

Cyborg Agent
i5 3550 is fine for multi-threaded tasks at its price.
i7 2600 would be around 5-10% faster than it in heavily multi-threaded tasks and in cases where no more than 4 threads can be processed simultaneously i5 3550 would be faster than i7 2600.

CX430V2 is fine.Nothing to worry about temperature rating.It is rated at 30degree Celsius for full power/load i.e consuming 28A on 12V rails as per specifications.
It can deliver 430Watts or more even at ambient temperatures higher than 45 degree celsius.
The whole config at full load would draw around 250Watts which implies much lesser current required/drawn from 12V rail.

One can go better with GS series for better build quality and can deliver more current on 12V rail.If you can spend more on the PSU then you can look for GS500,GS600 and many other good options are available.
 
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prashanthada

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@vkl thanks for replying
please lemme know about my upgrade after an year
and ill ask again is the rig well equipped to play the latest games and coming ones?

now after i buy this system the next upgrade ill be making in one year is add 8gb more ram add an ssd and add one more graphics card in crossfire.
that's the only upgrade i can do with system without changing major. so please let me the know the power supply mentioned above will be able to take a crossfire??
 

vkl

Cyborg Agent
^^Not worth risking crossfiring 2*7850s with cx430v2.
Try to get a GS600@4.5k for crossfiring 2 hd7850s.
Another thing,if you want to crossfire then do it soon or maybe withing 3-4 months or so.The thing is there that it is generally not worth it to crossfirex after a year or so.
Simply because at the same price-point a new gen card would have arrived by then which would be around as fast as or near to 2*current gen cards in crossfire and would be a lot more efficient.
 
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prashanthada

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thanks vkl abt cf info. got ur point. was just curious about the situation.
so might use a single gpu n use it most power.

graphics card - SAPPHIRE HD 7850 2GB GDDR5
or
hd 7870

how much is the price diff between them and is hd 7870 worth the upgrade then 1 7850?
tellme is it advisable to buy factory overclocked versions of the cards. or should i overclock them manually.??? do i need to???

for psu ill go with gs500 or gs600 for better build n quality :D

so here is the deal:

1. processor - i5-3570
2. mobo - gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H
3. graphics card - SAPPHIRE HD 7850 2GB GDDR5
4. harddisk wd cavier blue WD10EZEX 1tb 64mb cache
5. ram - G.Skill RipjawsX 1x8 1600mhz
6. psu - gs500
7. cooling - Hyper TX3 Evo
8. case - cm elite 311plus
9. ups - APC 600VA
10. monitor - lg 23" full hd
11. keyboard/mouse - logitech g100
12. dvd rom - hp

for cost cutting getting gs 500 then gs 600 i dont know there price diff :( and ups from apc 700 to apc 600
if i find 7870 in range is gs 500 good enough for that??? :shock: i know am being paranoid abt power :shock:

and please if any one know from where should i buy all this frm nehru place delhi???. i took a quote from cost to cost last week. he dont have that cabinet 311 elite plus. i like this mid range cabi.
 

vkl

Cyborg Agent
If you are thinking about crossfiring 2*hd7850s then try getting GS600 or something better like TX650.
If you are buying a hd7870 and want to crossfire it with another hd7870 then try getting TX650.
For single hd7870,GS500 is more than enough for that config.
If you can find hd7870 for around 17-18k then go for that.HD7870 is 20% or more faster than a hd7850.
Preferably go for a card which is priced well and have custom cooling.Most of the custom HD7870 can reach a level of 1.1-1.2GHz on overclocking.
 
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prashanthada

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@vkl what you mean by coustom cooling??. dont have much info on this. am going for single card now. so going with gs500. now according to ur best knowlegde can u tellme the company n version for 7850 and 7870. ill see the price and buy any one of them.
thanks

am getting a saphhire 7850 at 13300
 

coderunknown

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custom cooling = non reference design. Usually AMD/Nvidia GPU have complete covered GPU with a fan (blower) on one end. Custom cooling means open GPU with heatpipes extending and sometimes dual fan. Google about MSI HAWX or Gigabyte Cyclone or Sapphire VaporX. Those are custom cooled GPU.
 
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prashanthada

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@sam
got ur point
so do you have any model to suggest to buy from 7850 and 7870 from any companies???
if yes please tell :D

and for monitor am going to buy dell-s2440l 24" full hd
i think at this price range i couldnt find a better monitor

please if can someone tell me a good place in nehru place delhi to buy all this. buying first time from nehru place.
thanks :)

:twisted:Why noone is telling me from where to buy and my graphics card model:evil:

:shock:so guys here is the final thing that am going to buy tomorrow

1. processor - i5-3570

2. mobo - gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H

3. graphics card - SAPPHIRE HD OC 7850 2GB GDDR5
or
SAPPHIRE HD 7870 GHz Edition OC 2GB GDDR5

4. harddisk - wd cavier blue WD10EZEX 1tb 64mb cache

5. ram - G.Skill RipjawsX 1x8 1600mhz

6. psu - corsair gs600

7. cooling - Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO Cooler

8. case - cm elite 311plus
or
NZXT Beta Evo

9. ups - APC 700VA

10. monitor - 24" Dell S2440L

11. kb/ms - logitech g100

12. dvd rom - hp

13. speakers - edifier 2.1


thanks for the help. any final verdict or change or suggestion is welcome.....................:D :)

@sam
got ur point
so do you have any model to suggest to buy from 7850 and 7870 from any companies???
if yes please tell :D

and for monitor am going to buy dell-s2440l 24" full hd
i think at this price range i couldnt find a better monitor

please if can someone tell me a good place in nehru place delhi to buy all this. buying first time from nehru place.
thanks :)

:twisted:Why noone is telling me from where to buy and my graphics card model:evil:

:shock:so guys here is the final thing that am going to buy tomorrow

1. processor - i5-3570

2. mobo - gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H

3. graphics card - SAPPHIRE HD OC 7850 2GB GDDR5
or
SAPPHIRE HD 7870 GHz Edition OC 2GB GDDR5

4. harddisk - wd cavier blue WD10EZEX 1tb 64mb cache

5. ram - G.Skill RipjawsX 1x8 1600mhz

6. psu - corsair gs600

7. cooling - Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO Cooler

8. case - cm elite 311plus
or
NZXT Beta Evo

9. ups - APC 700VA

10. monitor - 24" Dell S2440L

11. kb/ms - logitech g100

12. dvd rom - hp

13. speakers - edifier 2.1


thanks for the help. any final verdict or change or suggestion is welcome.....................:D :)

will anyone reply anything??? koi kuch bolega?????????
 

Sattwa

Right off the assembly line
Hi, did you manage to get it and how much was it for? Im looking for same but seems you have high budget.
 
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prashanthada

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hey guys purchased the whole system on 24 on Nov. sorry for posting so late as dint got time from work. my whole system specs are:

1. processor - i5-3570 -11,375
2. mobo - gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H -5,644
3. graphics card - SAPPHIRE HD 7870 2GB GDDR5 -17,000
4. harddisk wd black 1tb 64mb cache -5,720
5. ram - G.Skill RipjawsX 1x8 1600mhz -2,890
6. psu - corsair gs600 -4,500
7. cooling - Hyper TX3 Evo -1,333
8. case - cm elite 431plus -3,200
9. ups - APC 700VA -3,467
10. monitor - Dell 2440l 24" full hd -12,624
11. keyboard/mouse - razer cyclosa kit -2,122
12. dvd rom - hp -1,048
13. speaker edifier 2.1 M1386 -2,166


add 5%tax on everything and the total comes to -77,184
 
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