need help buying my 1st DSLR

OP
game-freak

game-freak

In the zone
@ sujoyp today i met a guy who owns a photo studio and is a wild life photographer he says that canon is any day better than nikon why so
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
because he is a canon shooter and invested lakhs in canon :D

thing is if you want to do wildlife shooting with big lenses like canon 100-400L cost 1.3 lakh or canon 400mm f5.6 cost 80k then canon is good for wildlife...else both are similar in most economical lenses
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
but there is a small gap in both canon and nikon

for portrait
canon 50mm = 7k
nikon AFS 50mm = 12-13k

for wildlife to reach 300mm
canon 70-300 = 34k
tamron 70-300 vc usd = 25k
nikon 55-300 = 18k

soo its a compromising world there :D :D
 
OP
game-freak

game-freak

In the zone
the photo studio guy could not arrange for nikon d5100 and canon 600d for me to check which 1 is better disadvantages of living in a small town
guys what should i do now should i order for nikon d5100 and watz the cheapest i can get it for
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
Yaah you can get any one of D5100 or 600D eyes closed...no issues

The cheapest with bill will be 29k for D5100 and 31k for 600D
 

raja manuel

In the zone
Slightly better focus accuracy, exposure bracketing, AF with all lenses (?), better high ISO, more flexible video (?). Again, very subjective ;)
Then let us consider less subjective and even objective factors. 600D has a dedicated ISO button which is linked to the main dial. That's viewfinder level control on the fly. 600D has a grid style menu layout which is a lot quicker to navigate than the D5100's L shaped menu where you have to go past every menu item in between where you are and where you want to be. You don't need to enter the menu item on the 600D, you just need to bring the focus to the menu item you want and move the dial to cycle through its options. This makes the 600D geared towards the enthusiast photographer who wants a great deal of manual control and wants it now. 600D has wireless flash control. Software bundle on the 600D is superior, with DPP being an extremely good RAW developer, latest version even supports HDR from a single exposure. Also EOS utilities allows you to shoot both stills and video tethered. And if all that isn't enough you have Magic Lantern as well for those who want it.

We are not going to see Nikon and Canon offering equal value because if they did that they would only be able to compete on price, which would be good for us but bad for their shareholders. They are going to differentiate their offerings and provide different value at different prices.

If the OP is really a noob in photography it would be a good idea to first buy just camera and kit lens, try it out for a few months, see how many photos you actually take and what kind of photos you take before you decide on investing in more equipment. You might find yourself needing a good flash and tripod more than lenses of varying focal lengths (many people underestimate the value of flash and tripod) or the kind of lens you think you want now will not be the one you want as you develop your own style of photography.
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
@raja your points favoring 600D are correct ...it would be great if u could point some good points for D5100 too for comparison..

I feel a 2 lens combo makes any newbie happy ....a single kit lens almost makes every starter unhappy coz he comes from a p&S which could zoom into a flower or a subject..when he tries the same thing with dslr which is 3-5 times costly he is unable to do it...satisfaction and enthusiasm decrease instantly.

I will give my example...once shooting a sunset in a lake with parents with my 18-55 my mom said look that beautiful bird on that tree...take the picture of it...I told her that this is blah blah landscape lens with no zoom...her expression was like even a 10k cam will take the shot easily whats the use of ur 30k camera...you know the enthu gets badly hit by this...I would think only if I had a telephoto lens..
 

nac

Aspiring Novelist
I told her that this is blah blah landscape lens with no zoom...her expression was like even a 10k cam will take the shot easily whats the use of ur 30k camera...

:rofl: :rofl: Yeah, I have seen similar expressions from my family members, friends, cousins... :rofl:
 

raja manuel

In the zone
@raja your points favoring 600D are correct ...it would be great if u could point some good points for D5100 too for comparison..
Well, I wasn't going for a comparison of the cameras. I was just replying to pranav's list of very subjective advantages by providing a few objective ones. There is no need for us to go into a detailed comparison between the cameras; this has already been discussed all over the net ad nauseam by some people who know what they are talking about and many who don't. We cannot advice on the basis of what the OP wants because OPs usually don't know what they want unless they are upgrading from another DSLR, and even those who do claim to know what they want usually have very unrealistic estimates both of their own interests and the equipment. We know what we will finally say: go with what you feel most comfortable with, and actually make you want to make (and not just take) photos.

I feel a 2 lens combo makes any newbie happy ....a single kit lens almost makes every starter unhappy coz he comes from a p&S which could zoom into a flower or a subject..when he tries the same thing with dslr which is 3-5 times costly he is unable to do it...satisfaction and enthusiasm decrease instantly.

I will give my example...once shooting a sunset in a lake with parents with my 18-55 my mom said look that beautiful bird on that tree...take the picture of it...I told her that this is blah blah landscape lens with no zoom...her expression was like even a 10k cam will take the shot easily whats the use of ur 30k camera...you know the enthu gets badly hit by this...I would think only if I had a telephoto lens..

Frankly, if anyone is going to really get discouraged by this I would suggest they get a bridge camera. Not only have they not done sufficient research on what a DSLR entails (and therefore they have no reason for wanting one) they are clearly not ready for all the heartache and hard work associated with getting the best out of a DSLR.
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
^^ what I am saying is there is nothing wrong with 2 lens combo
my 55-200 vr lens can take nice portraits with great bokeh...much better then what tammy 17-50 f2.8 can take

soo a combo of 18-55 and 55-300 will cover landscape+portraits+street+birding wildlife easily :)
 
OP
game-freak

game-freak

In the zone
i read a lot of reviews and in most of the reviews it says that 70-300mm auto focuses better, its faster, much sharper auto focus and more sharp pic quality at 300mm as compared to 55-300mm is that true
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
yes its true that nikon AFs 70-300 VR is better then 55-300 in most things...but its also costlier by 7k and cross your budget.

I usually suggest 70-300 vr to people who are ready to wait to save that much money...but then 55-300 VR is not that bad to just ignore it :)

Its upto you..70-300 vr will eat half of your budget alone...then you need to save for tripod,flash,bag etc also :)
 
OP
game-freak

game-freak

In the zone
now im really confused between 55-300 mm and 70-300 mm

and can u tell me whr can i get nikon d5100 with kit lens for cheap and which is the best site to order lenses from
 
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