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rish1

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this is the last moto g stock ...

Flipkart selling last stocks of Moto G ahead of G2 launch

but i am disappointed by G2
 

rish1

Cyborg Agent
^^ But the phone hasn't even launched? Already disappointed ? :O

yup , all the specs are already known thanks to leaks and benchmarks ... price is known or can be easily guessed approximately.. we know what the competition will be offering in next 3-4 months

the specs are outdated before it is even launched ..

these are the specs if you or anybody is not aware about them

5 inch screen ( 720P)
1 gb ram
snapdragon 400 same 1.2 ghz quad core cortex A7
Adreno 305
8 mp primary camera
2 mp front camera

and here is the pic as well...

*cdn.recombu.com/mobile/images/news/M20640/1406115978_w670_h403.png

whats left now is price .. they will have to price it less than 12k for the 16gb version in order to get big sales
 
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thetechfreak

Legend Never Ends
^^ Considering the present price of the Moto G, I don't think we'll see a huge price bump.

So for 13k we need a phone with better specs than a 5" HD screen and others? Do you really expect hardware equivalent to a 40k phone? Hardware is needed to run S/W not just brag their computation speeds. As long as Google make proper software to use the hardware it's fine IMHO.

Apple still use mostly dual core processors with 1GB RAM on their flagship phones but because of their S/W they still beat competitors in benchmarks. I don't really have much more to say.
 

rish1

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hi :)

^^ Considering the present price of the Moto G, I don't think we'll see a huge price bump.

No infact i am thinking they will try to price it more close to 10k
So for 13k we need a phone with better specs than a 5" HD screen and others? Do you really expect hardware equivalent to a 40k phone? Hardware is needed to run S/W not just brag their computation speeds. As long as Google make proper software to use the hardware it's fine IMHO.

i am not expecting a 40k grade hardware .. they should have used Snapdragon 410 instead and bumped up the Ram to atleast 1.5gb.. especially since other brands have already started launching phones with it .. Moto g became a success because it was exceptional for the price and it had no competition ..

look at the competition now like asus zenfone 5 and xiaomi mi3 ,even lumia 730 plus one plus one launching , Htc,samsung will be launching a Snapdragon 410 based phone soon
Apple still use mostly dual core processors with 1GB RAM on their flagship phones but because of their S/W they still beat competitors in benchmarks. I don't really have much more to say.

the dual core they use is Cortex A57 .. the fastest Mobile ( arm ) Processor on this planet right now .. the hardware they use is top grade, best in class at least for the CPU/GPU that is why they are able to beat competitors.. regarding 1gb ram just google a bit and you will find the whole web filled with complains of ipad and 5s regarding app crashes due to limiting 1 gb ram.. you are right the hardware far exceeds the OS requirements and can run smooth as butter but what about Apps, games , multitasking, future proofing ? .. they need raw power this was a general answer to question why we need better hardware ..

anyways performance wise , there is still not much difference between old Sd400 and Sd 410 .. but sd 410 would have brought 4g LTE capability to Moto G which would have been a nice edition plus Arm v8 instructions advantage .. but then there are no bad products just bad pricing so there is still hope if they price it close to 10k .. all i am saying is the upgrade is very marginal only
 
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thetechfreak

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rish said:
look at the competition now like asus zenfone 5 and xiaomi mi3 ,even lumia 730 plus one plus one launching , Htc,samsung will be launching a Snapdragon 410 based phone soon
One phone you compared to is a completely different phone(WP). The others are superior hardware wise but they don't even get timely updates. Mi3 got KitKat only in the month of May(Source) when Moto G started getting updates right from January in different parts of the world(Source).

Timely updates played a big part in making the Moto G this successful. Else one could've bought one of the many other phones available in the market alread

rish said:
the dual core they use is Cortex A57 .. the fastest Mobile ( arm ) Processor on this planet right now .. the hardware they use is top grade, best in class at least for the CPU/GPU that is why they are able to beat competitors.. regarding 1gb ram just google a bit and you will find the whole web filled with complains regarding app crashes due to limiting 1 gb ram.. you are right the OS far exceeds the hardware and can run smooth as butter but what about Apps, games , multitasking, future proofing ? .. they need raw power this was a general answer to question why we need better hardware ..
Whether a app crashes on 1GB RAM or not isn't the debate here. It's rule of thumb really if one runs say 30-40 heavy apps together and not expect a phone with (1GB RAM to crash, or any amount of RAM for that matter) to crash. You can't expect magic.
 
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rish1

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One phone you compared to is a completely different phone(WP). The others are superior hardware wise but they don't even get timely updates. Mi3 got KitKat only in the month of May(Source) when Moto G started getting updates right from January in different parts of the world(Source).

Timely updates played a big part in making the Moto G this successful. Else one could've bought one of the many other phones available in the market alread

this is what i am saying earlier moto g had the advantage in both hardware + software over competition this time it looks like its usp will be only software and not hardware
there weren't any other phones out there back then for people to choose, mi3 zenfone appeared in the last 2 months only..
Whether a app crashes on 1GB RAM or not isn't the debate here. It's rule of thumb really if one runs say 30-40 heavy apps together and not expect a phone with (1GB RAM to crash, or any amount of RAM for that matter) to crash. You can't expect magic.

lol ios isn't android , it doesn't allow you to open 30-40 apps .. even android does not have true multitasking unless the app is coded that way..

and these crashes were experienced by users on simply using 2-3 tabs on safari browser and not multitasking .. google it up ipad and iphone 5s crashing due to limited 1gb ram.. 1gb ram was the major criticism that last year apple products received
 

thetechfreak

Legend Never Ends
rish said:
lol ios isn't android , it doesn't allow you to open 30-40 apps .. even android does not have true multitasking unless the app is coded that way..

and these crashes were experienced by users on simply using 2-3 tabs on safari browser and not multitasking .. google it up ipad and iphone 5s crashing due to limited 1gb ram.. 1gb ram was the major criticism that last year apple products received
Well you're going offtopic anyways. Seems you haven't used a iOS device extensively, all your statements seems to be based on random google searches.

rish said:
this is what i am saying earlier moto g had the advantage in both hardware

But you said:

i am not expecting a 40k grade hardware .. they should have used Snapdragon 410 instead and bumped up the Ram to atleast 1.5gb.......

look at the competition now like asus zenfone 5 and xiaomi mi3 ,even lumia 730 plus one plus one launching ,
hmmm
 
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lywyre

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Whether G2 will be a success or not, my next device could well be that.

Moto G will always be known for the game that it changed. It brought very capable phones at a very reasonable price. E is doing the same at that price level. Well played by Google, who is the ultimate winner.
 

rish1

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Well you're going offtopic anyways. Seems you haven't used a iOS device extensively, all your statements seems to be based on random google searches.
yes you are right i haven't used it extensively but those who have are the ones who post these problems on forums etc.. and yes there is no true multitasking in neither android , ios nor wp .. android can do partial true multitasking if app is coded that way.. symbian use to do true multitasking .. ok i'll not go into it more as it is going off topic

But you said:

hmmm

whats strange in that ? both statements are in support of each other.. snapdragon 410 and 1.5 gb ram are going to be mid range Specs .. here moto is using 1 year old outdated specs..

again i am not saying g2 is a bad device or it will fail , all i am saying is the upgrade could have been so much better and substantial but it is only marginal hence disappointing .. price will be the deciding factor .. my bet is 10k and we have a winner
 
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Moto G(First gen) available for purchase again from Flipkart! (Don't know for how much time it will be available)
Rs 10,000 for 16 GB
Rs 9,000 for 8 GB
 

skeletor

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Moto G(First gen) available for purchase again from Flipkart! (Don't know for how much time it will be available)
Rs 10,000 for 16 GB
Rs 9,000 for 8 GB
I had opened this thread to ask "Where can I get Moto G 1st Gen?" and there you gave me good news. :)
 
I had opened this thread to ask "Where can I get Moto G 1st Gen?" and there you gave me good news. :)
I opened Flipkart to just check some products prices and found this info.
As the old gen will get lolipop update, this phone becomes the cheapest snapdragon 400 phone to get the latest android update with almost stock ui experience!
I am buying 8 GB one for my dad as his space requirements are more than fulfilled and the 4.5 inch screen is way more better to hold than 5 inch for him..
 

skeletor

Chosen of the Omnissiah
I opened Flipkart to just check some products prices and found this info.
As the old gen will get lolipop update, this phone becomes the cheapest snapdragon 400 phone to get the latest android update with almost stock ui experience!
I am buying 8 GB one for my dad as his space requirements are more than fulfilled and the 4.5 inch screen is way more better to hold than 5 inch for him..
Same. I want to buy for my mom.

She's been using Nokia 5800 XpressMusic. Time to upgrade.
 
Same. I want to buy for my mom.

She's been using Nokia 5800 XpressMusic. Time to upgrade.

Same here again!
My dad uses 5233:)
I was anyway going to buy the new one for dad on Diwali and this proved to save me Rs 4,000 while being more suitable for his use... This is the real Diwali Dhamaka or Big Billion offer for me:p
 

Vyom

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With 1k difference, don't think one should buy 8 GB version. More the space more "pics" and "videos" it can hold. Might be useful if you dad wants to click some of those without worrying about space.

In 8 GB model, you will barely get 6 GB for your data. So choose more wisely.
 
With 1k difference, don't think one should buy 8 GB version. More the space more "pics" and "videos" it can hold. Might be useful if you dad wants to click some of those without worrying about space.

In 8 GB model, you will barely get 6 GB for your data. So choose more wisely.

Thanks for the advice:)
I have a 16 gb moto g myself.
I was actually going to buy the 16 gb one but dad said its not required for him. He is not too much interested in shooting pics and vids.
 

Vyom

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^^ Well, its not about interest. It's about requirement.

I myself bought Lumia 520 for my dad. It also have 8 GB internal space. And usually its enough for daily use (he's not a gamer, lol). But when he goes for trips outside the internal memory falls short, since he records many videos than pics. Thankfully, Lumia 520 have expandable storage. But Moto G don't. So there is no choice to increase space later. So I really think storage shouldn't be compromised. But that's just me. :)
 

polupoka

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[h=1]Moto G (1st Gen)[/h](Black, with 16 GB) is now 9999 in flip! and after sbi debit/credit card cashback effective price gonna be 8999.10/-:clap2:
 
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