Moser Baer DVD-R, any good??

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Keith Sebastian

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This is Moser Baer India DVD+R. Certified at 4X, but OK till 8X.

Memorex sells these el cheapo discs as 8X DVD+R overseas, in cake packs of 50 discs (branded as Memorex). Costs an equivalent of INR 25 per disc.

DVD Identifier should return these results. Download DVD Identifier at
*DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com


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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MBIPG101-R04-001]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD-ROM]
Manufacturer Name : [Moser Baer India Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [MBIPG101]
Media Type ID : [R04]
Product Revision : [001]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x , 2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]

** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 03 4d 42 49 50 47 31 30 31 52 30 34 01 38 ...MBIPG101R04.8
0020 : 23 54 37 12 02 42 6e 02 a8 6b 15 15 0b 0b 08 08 #T7..Bn..k......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 2d 65 1c 06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 ..88.-e...#.....
0050 : 00 00 02 2d 65 1c 06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 00 00 ...-e...#.......
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 2f 64 67 20 14 0b 0b 01 20 00 00 ..Tp./dg .... ..
0070 : 00 00 02 42 5d 66 20 14 0b 0b 01 20 00 00 00 32 ...B]f .... ...2
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0100 : 00 00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..


The pack I won on eBay (see start of this discussion) is DVD-R and costs approx the same, but with shipping. It's INR 1450 for 50, so in fact it's cheapers than 25 bucks per pop

Cheers,
Keith
 

drvarunmehta

Wise Old Owl
Thanks for that link.
But how did you use the software to find out the manufacturer of my DVD's? Dosen't the software require the DVD to be present in the drive? I didn't see any option for manually entering the code.

I'm asking my cousin to get me these Ridata DVD+RW's from US.
*www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817132339

They cost 18$ including shipping for a 25 pack spindle.
How do I verify that the quality is good?
 

AlienTech

In the zone
Liteon drives do not burn Moser Baer -R disks properly due to a bug. but it seems to burn them @ 2x okay. MBI is one of the largest makers of Cd's in the world and you can find them under many brands. They use the same die and machines from Mitsubishi chemicals who also have a large chemical plant in India.

50 disks for 1200 seems about the right price. Its what I buy them for now. I used to pay rs 1000 for 25 an year ago. The +R's only come as original MBI instead of OEM MBI (OEm sometimes has no name sticker or they give it 3rd party names) and I paid rs 1000 for 10. But they burn great.

I burnt about 1000 DVDs of all makes and got 100-200 coasters, of course I did not know at the time why. But your DRIVE is more important than the disks.

In India at least, MBI disks are much better than elcheapo Chinese disks. Even those el cheapo swiss disks like pomsi, or Korean like optodisks (samsung etc). Japanese DVDs are the best in the world like Fuji, Yuden etc. Sony disks are sometimes made in Europe and are crap. They also use Ricoh/tdk/jvc japan etc.. Which are great.

Oh yea, I today noticed I got a fungus infection. ARGH!!!!!!!!!! Seems the fungus will eat the silver from the edges and the disks become unplayable. So keep the disks in an environmental controlled dry place. If my original expensive DVD's ($25-$50) are going bad after 3-4 years then writables wont last long. Teh fungus will wrap writables really fast, also humidity will wrap the disks. I kept MBI disks for tests and 6 months later, the top paint is like waving. IE it looks the paint is peeling but it just bunches up like when you throw oil paint on the floor and it creates think and thick covering.
 
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Keith Sebastian

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drvarunmehta said:
Thanks for that link.
But how did you use the software to find out the manufacturer of my DVD's? Dosen't the software require the DVD to be present in the drive? I didn't see any option for manually entering the code.

I'm asking my cousin to get me these Ridata DVD+RW's from US.
*www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817132339

They cost 18$ including shipping for a 25 pack spindle.
How do I verify that the quality is good?

I have a few Memorex lying around at home. Picked up at MSY (Melbourne, Australia). Won't work on my PS2 and standalone, but fine on PC.

Get those Ridata (Ritek) as they're pretty good. Get DVD-R's, DVD-RW's for better compatibility with standalones.

Keith
 

lavan_joy

Journeyman
I am a moser baer user for more than 5 months. I didn't get a problem upto last week.

Last week I purchased 20 DVD-R ( 10 x2 cake box)

The problem is:
The written dvds won't work on DVD writers. But it works with SONY DVD ROM. I don't understand what is the problem!!!
I tried with many DVD writers
 
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Keith Sebastian

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lavan_joy - If possible post results from DVD identifier (*DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com) for both current and previous batch discs.

Keith
 

kaysquare

Journeyman
I use HP 4x DVD+R. I got them from US and they are made by CMC Magnetics. I see that HP DVD's marketed in india are made by Moser Baer.

Does anyone own a liteon DVD drive. If so can they post / compare Kprobe results of MBI media with the best out there??
 
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Keith Sebastian

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Keith Sebastian said:
Hi all,

I've been watching and intend to win this auction on eBay *cgi.ebay.in/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5187925777 for MBI DVD-R media. Would greatly appreciate any input from users of MBI. If possible please post screeshots of Nero transfer quality tests.

Should I buy this media. Apparently I have 2 days to decide. Speak now or forever hold your peace :lol:

Cheers,
Keith

I just recieved the 50's pack. They're not Moser Baer at all. The DVD Manufacturer ID is MCC 00RG200. These happen to be made by Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation.

Quite happy as I'm sure they're way better than Moser. On checking at videohelp.com I found that these discs are rebadged as Apple, Pioneer, TDK and Verbatim (DataLifePlus) among others.

Keith
 
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