Minister Satyapal Singh calls for international debate on Darwin’s theory of evolution

[karthik99387]

But if the reason for the debate is why we did not see apes evolve into humans with our own eyes, then there is no use of having a debate!

I never supported satyapal singh or denied evolution theory in any of my posts above.

 

[whitestar_999]

They say humans evolved out of africa and before speading into asia they some how magically built boats and went to australia and become native australians......do you agree with that?

Aryan invasion theory was fake as well which says that we are primitive apes and white men conquered us and gave us language and culture and this is the reason most of our scripture were given later date compared to chinese other middle eastern scrpitures...which is highly unlikely.

dont you want to know our true origins without any religious and racial bias?

India broke away from the other fragments of Gondwana 100 million years ago.
Indian Plate - Wikipedia

Early humans first migrated out of Africa into Asia probably between 2 million and 1.8 million years ago.
Introduction to Human Evolution | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program

So now youre saying humans evolved out of africa before 100 million years ago before the tectonic plates seperated? seriously?


Yeah its called aryan invasion theory look it up in google.i think you must have forgoten all your school history lessons.

Early human migrations - Wikipedia
See the map under Oceania section to understand how early humans reached Australia without making boats.It's you who have forgotten the history school lessons,Aryan invasion theory earlier taught in schools was about destruction of Indus valley civilization which was quite advanced for its time(they even had flush toilets & sewage system).

I am removing all wrong content from your earlier posts.If only more people had acted proactively like me,Trump might not have won US election which goes on to show that whether developed or developing nation,ignorance is common & in a way proof of the fact that all humanity has same source.

 

[Nerevarine]

Him being wrong does not give you the right to remove his posts. He didnt violate any forum rules, he expressed his opinion, you didnt like it, you may ridicule or criticize his thinking like any regular forum user.

 

[vito scalleta]

finally someone started to talk with senses i guess. really, nobody has seen apes evolving to humans, neither its documented anywhere.

Nobody saw apes evolve into human because apes are NOT pokemon.

Stop confusing reality with anime..

 

[whitestar_999]

Him being wrong does not give you the right to remove his posts. He didnt violate any forum rules, he expressed his opinion, you didnt like it, you may ridicule or criticize his thinking like any regular forum user.

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From a Political/Religious stand point its a good move.....when you realize that modern evolution theory was responsible for promoting atrocities againt other races all around the world and also for promoting the Aryan invation theory.
mod edit: mixing politics,religion & racism in one post on basis of a fake fact: double check

Yeah its called aryan invasion theory look it up in google.i think you must have forgoten all your school history lessons.
mod edit: making personal comment: check

Aryan invasion theory was fake as well which says that we are primitive apes and white men conquered us and gave us language and culture and this is the reason most of our scripture were given later date compared to chinese other middle eastern scrpitures...which is highly unlikely.
mod edit: fake fact post: check

I never supported satyapal singh or denied evolution theory in any of my posts above.
mod edit: self contradictory post: check

In the light of the above facts,it is you who has no right to criticize my action.I have noticed that you really like to jump in between when I am discussing something a bit debatable with other members.Since you are an old member I am just telling you this time not to make posts with accusatory tone directed at me.If you have problems with my way of moderating you can open a poll topic referring any posts you think I moderated wrongly,I have no issues with that.

 

[Anorion]

They say humans evolved out of africa and before speading into asia they some how magically built boats and went to australia and become native australians......do you agree with that?

mod edit:incorrect content removed

dont you want to know our true origins without any religious and racial bias?

Thor Heyerdahl proved the boat possibility with the Kon Tiki voyage

 

[Desmond]

Late to the party, but let me also give my 2 paise.
We should not argue about the validity of Darwin's theory of evolution. It is the most comprehensive theory we have right now that researchers have overwhelming consensus on. We also have means of validating this theory through DNA profiling. This is why this guys argument is absolutely absurd. "No one has seen..." itself is a false argument because Homo Sapiens weren't around when Homo Habilis were around. However, we do have remains of Homo Habilis and other human ancestor species that we can carbon date and plot them on the timeline.

Thor Heyerdahl proved the boat possibility with the Kon Tiki voyage

That is a good book.

 

[Anorion]

The PTI copy just mentioned that this Satyapal fellow gave a list of scientists who disagreed with Darwin. One of them was Einstein, who never said anything against evolution. When he said "God does not play dice", he was actually referring to some strange and counterintuitive facets of quantum mechanics, including the prediction that subatomic particles derive properties from a number of random possibilities at the time of measurement.

If there was any other scientist, that according to Satyapal, did not support evolution, or provided evidence against the theory of evolution, would like to know. Find it really hard to understand how this doofus reached his position, but can see why making dumb statements like this can have political appeal.

 

[Desmond]

I have a hunch that he is distracting the public and press from something else.

 

[Flash]

The 65-year-old Science Society, which has now emerged as a leading organisation in the country for science popularisation, has stated in a statement that
so far no scientific premise is there to prove Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution wrong. The essence of Darwin’s theory is that from the simple life emerged the complex life, like the animals, humans, flora etc, through the process of random genetic mutations. This process continued for millions of years.

At a stage of this evolution, apes and human beings were separated into two different species from a specific origin as two separate biological entities. This is regarded by many people as a theory suggesting the evolution of man directly from ape. Darwin has never stated so, rather what he said was that the ancestor of ape and man was the same, they emerged from the same genetic origin, asserted the Science Society.

Darwin’s theory has a sound basis. The fossils of the ancient plants and creatures stand as a major proof of this theory. Proofs like evolution of the foetus, or, the similarities of the chemical compounds are also there. The Cytochrome-C compounds and hemoglobin compounds, which are inseparable components of our bodies, can also be taken for another proof in support of Darwin’s theory. A lot of amino acids form the Cytochrome-C compounds. The difference between these amino acids increases with the increased size of the gap between two species of life, said the Society.

The Assam Tribune Online

 

[Raaabo]

Since you are an old member I am just telling you this time not to make posts with accusatory tone directed at me.If you have problems with my way of moderating you can open a poll topic referring any posts you think I moderated wrongly,I have no issues with that.

I agree with @Nerevarine

An opinion should never be edited, no matter how idiotic it is. Censorship should be reserved only for extreme measures such as porn, inciting violence, etc.

The rule you posted was about attacking people instead of their ideas. As much as I agree that it is absolutely ridiculous to doubt evolution given all the evidence for it, and complete lack of evidence against it, that should never give us the right to silence someone and edit their posts to say whatever we want it to say.

Feel free to reply to, quote and demolish arguments against evolution, but to censor when no forum rules have been broken is certainly not right.

@whitestar_999 you are a brilliant moderator and an absolute boon to this forum. I am the first to say that. But in this instance I think you're wrong, and should desist from editing people's expressed opinions, no matter how ridiculous.

 

[whitestar_999]

I am quite tolerant but when it comes to science/scientific facts I tend to be a bit rigid(blame it on being an engineer with an inquisitive mind) as in my opinion taking a liberty with that is not the same as taking a liberty on subjective matters like preferences regarding food,places,dress etc. Still I will keep it in mind & won't edit such posts in future.

 

[Desmond]

I am highly inclined towards scientific evidence and logical arguments myself. However, my school of thought is that a flawed/illogical argument is just that: flawed and illogical and the longer it is discussed it's flaws will eventually show and can easily be pointed out.

 

[whitestar_999]

I am highly inclined towards scientific evidence and logical arguments myself. However, my school of thought is that a flawed/illogical argument is just that: flawed and illogical and the longer it is discussed it's flaws will eventually show and can easily be pointed out.

Good logic but it assumes that one is inherently logical & unbiased which is not the case.Take Rafale deal for example,may be something is wrong may be not but the fact is till today there is no concrete proof(unlike in Bofors/other scams where there are at least some bank account numbers & some amount even if not large) which is a glaring flaw especially if one considers the size of accusation(aka ~30-36k crore). Logically also just think if everything alleged is true then basically Rafael paid ~36k crore to get a 58k crore deal.I haven't studied Business courses but common sense dictates this to be ridiculous. Of course that still does not mean you won't get a crowd of supporters for this theory in any online discussion without even open minded possibility that it might be all wrong(if it cannot be proved in court then it is govt conspiracy to destroy/falsify data).