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Migrated from BSNL to Fiber , Need new router or use existing?

kARTechnology

Sony " VA" "IO"
Hi,
I was using BSNL Cr@p 4MBPS Plan upto 20GB and 512 kbps for Rs.1350/month after that, it worked for few months and speed dropped verrry low, that can even browse, can't complain as they don't even bother to pick the phone, or if i go to office, they will not be there(will go for lunch, breakfast, go out blah blah)

SO i switched to APPLE Broadband, which does not even have a website, only a fb page :Apple Broadband Pvt Ltd | Facebook
Took a new connetion yesterday, today afternoon the connection is running and speeds are good (2.75MBPS up and down!!!):-D:hyper:
I took the package Rs.600/month 3mbps upto 30gb and 1mbps after that
they provide power for 2 hours after a powercut

It is FTTC: Fibre-to-the-Cabinet Connection, they use 24Online by elitecore, and something called cyberoam
they provide only a Cat5 cable(has only 4 wires), which i connected to laptop and that line man called up office and said to give access, I think they use MAC address because i tried connecting to pc and it said "you are not authorized to connect from this machine pls contact customer care"
If i enable in network location as "Home" I am able to see other people's PC's in "View computers and devices" :shock::shock::eeksign:

and i need to connect via their HTTP based login form(and minimize it and start surfing) or using 24Online client
I want to use via Wi-Fi, i have BSNL UTStarcom WA3002g4, does it work and how do i configure it? or do I need to buy a new router suggest some with:
I want 300N speed, usb port(for downloading) , dd-wrt support, budget 3.5K

one more question, if i can't access internet without logging in from pc how will new router(if i should buy one) connect and download during nighttime?
 
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whitestar_999

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reliance uses a similar system too.your UTStarcom WA3002g4 should work.check in network/lan settings an option called "mac cloning/mac duplication/copy mac" option.if it is there enable it & enter your laptop/authorized computer mac address.after this login from your laptop & once connected you should be able to access net on any device connected to modem/router now.also you can not access net without logging in from authorized device but you can automate the logging process from computer using some script though it would be much better & hassle free to simply leave the pc on for downloading.it's not like you can download only during some night unlimited free time like bsnl 2-8AM slot.
 
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kARTechnology

kARTechnology

Sony " VA" "IO"
reliance uses a similar system too.your UTStarcom WA3002g4 should work.check in network/lan settings an option called "mac cloning/mac duplication/copy mac" option.if it is there enable it & enter your laptop/authorized computer mac address.after this login from your laptop & once connected you should be able to access net on any device connected to modem/router now.also you can not access net without logging in from authorized device but you can automate the logging process from computer using some script though it would be much better & hassle free to simply leave the pc on for downloading.it's not like you can download only during some night unlimited free time like bsnl 2-8AM slot.

I say in my old bsnl modem/router's page there was nothing like that, I remember seeing in other bsnl modem (same one but with another firmware),( mine is named dataone, my friend's is named BSNL)
I am logging in through their client software which automatically logon's for me when i connect through cat5 ethernet cable. software is "Cyberoam client for 24 online)

I asked my ISP what router should i go for, they said d link or cisco/linksys. i asked asus and they said its "failure company" "low range"
I thought of buying ASUS RT-n12u B1 but they said it a pain to configure it :(
so i say Cisco e900, is it a good one, and it has dd-wrt also, are there any other routers like this?
 
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kARTechnology

kARTechnology

Sony " VA" "IO"
check under advanced setup--lan options.as for cisco get this,cheaper & better:
TP-LINK TL-WR841N 300Mbps Wireless N Router - TP-LINK: Flipkart.com
dd-wrt support is an issue because officially dd-wrt supports v7 while latest hardware version is v8 but i don't think dd-wrt support is needed for this model.

nope, it is not there, i will exchange my bsnl bb with my friend and see if it has one, in few days...

will ask my ISP weather they will configure TP-LINK,

i asked them to say to me the configuration details for new router they said "if you don't do it properly it will collapse the entire network and result in downtime" but it is not that dangerous!!!
the technicians are rude :evil: i said that i know how to do but they they will only configure, as if there is some top secret in it :wink:

anyone here suggest me a good router with dd-wrt or any other firmware support and very long range...Currently in on 3 mbps plan but in future may go to 15 mbps so it must give full speed in wifi also

i want it to be future proof like steaming HD videos from pc to tv???in case i get a htpc or a internet smart tv. budget is 3.5k or if really good upto 4k
 

whitestar_999

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is there any particular reason for being so insistent on dd-wrt?configuring tp-link is a pretty simple task because they include the configuration setting for all major indian isp's in their setup cd & many here commented that it's just a matter of few clicks after running the setup cd.i however recommend you to learn the steps manually as it will be better in long term.configuring any adsl connection just needs simple 4-5 steps & you will never have to depend on another person/cd to configure it for you.for ~2800 you can get this model which has good range & depending on hardware version dd-wrt support too.dd-wrt is not something absolutely essential as default rom works fine most of the time not to mention that there is always a risk of bricking your router.
TP-LINK TL-WR941ND 300Mbps Wireless N Router - TP-LINK: Flipkart.com
for dd-wrt support of various hardware versions see this thread:
DD-WRT Forum :: View topic - Will TP-Link TL-WR941ND be supported?
 
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kARTechnology

kARTechnology

Sony " VA" "IO"
is there any particular reason for being so insistent on dd-wrt?configuring tp-link is a pretty simple task because they include the configuration setting for all major indian isp's in their setup cd & many here commented that it's just a matter of few clicks after running the setup cd.i however recommend you to learn the steps manually as it will be better in long term.configuring any adsl connection just needs simple 4-5 steps & you will never have to depend on another person/cd to configure it for you.for ~2800 you can get this model which has good range & depending on hardware version dd-wrt support too.dd-wrt is not something absolutely essential as default rom works fine most of the time not to mention that there is always a risk of bricking your router.
TP-LINK TL-WR941ND 300Mbps Wireless N Router - TP-LINK: Flipkart.com
for dd-wrt support of various hardware versions see this thread:
DD-WRT Forum :: View topic - Will TP-Link TL-WR941ND be supported?

thanks for the reply, I thought that if a model has dd-wrt or open-wrt or any other custom firmware it would be future proof
Easy configuration is not a necessity for me, i have already configured many routers, UTStarcom wa3002g4, netgear DGN1000, Dlink 2750u and a beetel modem too
i thought now i spend 2k on this, if after few months my ISP(local) will run away, i moght not go to BSNL, I might use 3g/4g dongle... if there is usb port i can share printer and usb drive, thats why...
I'm confused which one to choose
TP-LINK TL-WR941ND 300Mbps Wireless N Router - TP-LINK: Flipkart.com
TP-LINK TL-MR3420 3G/4G Wireless N Router - TP-LINK: Flipkart.com
TP-LINK TL-WR1043ND 300 Mbps Ultimate Wireless N Gigabit Router - TP-LINK: Flipkart.com
 

whitestar_999

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^^you are right.

@kartechnology,W8968 is an all-in-one device which is adsl modem+wifi router+print server+usb storage sharing+3g usb modem support.though any wifi adsl modem is also a router & can be used with any cable broadband/non-adsl connection with a few extra configuration steps W8968 has an EWAN port similar to the WAN port in routers which makes it work just like a router & saves you those extra 2-3 steps in configuring it compared to adsl modem/router.
 
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kARTechnology

kARTechnology

Sony " VA" "IO"
I think its all in one modem
@whitestar_999 correct me if i am wrong
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/networking/172092-confused-between-3-wifi-routers-please-help.html
check thread this out

^^you are right.

@kartechnology,W8968 is an all-in-one device which is adsl modem+wifi router+print server+usb storage sharing+3g usb modem support.though any wifi adsl modem is also a router & can be used with any cable broadband/non-adsl connection with a few extra configuration steps W8968 has an EWAN port similar to the WAN port in routers which makes it work just like a router & saves you those extra 2-3 steps in configuring it compared to adsl modem/router.

WOW! never seen a router like this, awesome!! this this only model or there are still more like this???

and i connect to internet via a HTTP based logon/logoff form, not something like PPPoE... will this create problems?
I thought i could automate this using some script and a ddrwrt or any other firmware

and i got another bsnl bb modem/router it has no mac clone option...so it won't work?

edit: Hey my somehow old bsnl bb vs working with this local cable broadband!!!!
but i am not able to get laptop online as it says "you are not allowd to logon from this achine, call call center - they are using mac address filter

previously, when i wanted internet on laptop, i called and said to give access... then when i want desktop , i call and say again...
now should i tell the mac address of bb router to the customer care???
 
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whitestar_999

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that is why mac spoofing option is used usually with cable broadband.this option allow modem/router to fake any mac address so you enter the mac address of the device registered with your cable isp in modem/router mac spoofing/cloning option & after applying/reboot your router will show its mac address as the same as that of entered/registered device to your cable isp so any device connected to router will get net access because your cable isp will only see fake mac address of modem/router & not the devices behind it.if your cable isp is helpful enough to register any mac address then definitely call them to get your modem/router mac id registered(just don't tell them it is modem/router but some pc cause they may refuse otherwise).
 
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kARTechnology

kARTechnology

Sony " VA" "IO"
that is why mac spoofing option is used usually with cable broadband.this option allow modem/router to fake any mac address so you enter the mac address of the device registered with your cable isp in modem/router mac spoofing/cloning option & after applying/reboot your router will show its mac address as the same as that of entered/registered device to your cable isp so any device connected to router will get net access because your cable isp will only see fake mac address of modem/router & not the devices behind it.if your cable isp is helpful enough to register any mac address then definitely call them to get your modem/router mac id registered(just don't tell them it is modem/router but some pc cause they may refuse otherwise).

okay i dont understand this concept fully,
now my desktop pc's mac is registered, i am able to browse by logging in
but when router's mac is registered, how will the http client allow me to connect, means will the router hide the pc's mac addresses and show only the router's?
 

whitestar_999

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i was wrong earlier since i didn't thought about login process using http protocol.you should use mac spoofing option to fake the mac address of the registered pc/laptop.
 

whitestar_999

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yes if your existing router does not support mac spoofing.i suggest tp-link W8968 mentioned earlier.it is a very good value for money product & its many features will make it unnecessary to upgrade for at least a couple of years.
 
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