Linux 64-bit suppt Mobo
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Power_user_EX
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All the latest mobos supporting ram upto 8 or 16GB r 64 bits. It also depends on ur proccy.
All the latest C2D , C2Q and C2X support EMT64 i.e they r all 64 bit proccies.
AFAIK 64 bit support depends on the chipset , proccy and the system buses on the mobo.
Palit P35A Motherboard is a p35 based board for ur budget and it supports upto 8 GB of RAM. It will cost u around 4.3k(inc vat).
Here's the link : *www.palit.biz/en/products/mb_intel_P35A.html
All the latest C2D , C2Q and C2X support EMT64 i.e they r all 64 bit proccies.
AFAIK 64 bit support depends on the chipset , proccy and the system buses on the mobo.
Palit P35A Motherboard is a p35 based board for ur budget and it supports upto 8 GB of RAM. It will cost u around 4.3k(inc vat).
Here's the link : *www.palit.biz/en/products/mb_intel_P35A.html
he is not asking about all that u have written he is asking about any mobo with support for 64-bit linux distro ....
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I think Palit P35A
MetalheadGautham
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For AMD, 690V, 690G, 740G, 780V, 780G, 790GX and 790FX along with GF6100, GF8200 and GF8300.
For Intel, P31, G31, G33, P35, Q35, G35, P45, G45, 610i, 630i, 710i, 720i, 730i, 750i have mainstream support.
For Intel, P31, G31, G33, P35, Q35, G35, P45, G45, 610i, 630i, 710i, 720i, 730i, 750i have mainstream support.
I didnt understand when u said mainstream support.Does it mean Linux support? according to newegg buyer review he said like this abt cons of MSI p35 neo-f Mobo
[Cons: It doesn't work with any other operating systems. The Jmicron controller it uses for the sata drives is incompatible with grub loader meaning no linux, virtual server, or any system pretty much other then microsoft will be able to find the hard drives. Jmicron bug (look it up on google)]
that it doesnt suppt Linux distrobution. Does other p35 Mobos suppt Linux especially 64-bit?
[Cons: It doesn't work with any other operating systems. The Jmicron controller it uses for the sata drives is incompatible with grub loader meaning no linux, virtual server, or any system pretty much other then microsoft will be able to find the hard drives. Jmicron bug (look it up on google)]
that it doesnt suppt Linux distrobution. Does other p35 Mobos suppt Linux especially 64-bit?
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Hmmm.... mobo trying to support linux ???
Thats not the way it is dude!
The architectural support is enough for any linux to run on that arch.
Here he wants 64 bit support.
He must know that Linux supports any Intel/IBM 64-bit arch given that that linux distro is 64-bit. Also AFAIK mac uses Linux kernel. The beauty is that it can be ported to any arch.
More over he wants an intel chipset which can run any linux distro till date.
To run 64-bit linux u need x64(emt64/amd64) arch which is the current arch while for 32-bit u need x86.
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what are u trying to say ...???
all the chipset out there support 64 bit computing both from intel and amd so thats not the point ..but linux support is very limited to few mobos ...since its open source ..sometime some mobo gives a problem with a particular linux distro or flavour ...
MSI P45 neo ...infact most of the MSI mobo couldn't install linux ...cos linux distro like Suse 11.0 and ubuntu doesn't recognise SATA drive ..so linux can't be installed on them ...same is the problem with some asus and gigabyte mobo .....hence there are limited number of mobo which run most of the linux flavour out of the box !...most of the time ...slowly the support is added for particular mobos ....
so point is not what u are saying ...
all the chipset out there support 64 bit computing both from intel and amd so thats not the point ..but linux support is very limited to few mobos ...since its open source ..sometime some mobo gives a problem with a particular linux distro or flavour ...
MSI P45 neo ...infact most of the MSI mobo couldn't install linux ...cos linux distro like Suse 11.0 and ubuntu doesn't recognise SATA drive ..so linux can't be installed on them ...same is the problem with some asus and gigabyte mobo .....hence there are limited number of mobo which run most of the linux flavour out of the box !...most of the time ...slowly the support is added for particular mobos ....
so point is not what u are saying ...
Is that an old motherboard? Because jmicron was an issue back then when Intel shipped the new C2D motherboards but I don't think it is an issue now.
During that time, I used to get around it by passing 3 kernel parameters during boot time.
1) pci=nommconf
2) all-generic-ide
3) irqpoll
This might help *wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
I have read some Ubuntu Forums.it is still an issue. As far i understand it is a bug related to Ubuntu that too to some Mobos. if we dont run any PATA devices it will not occur. but i need to attach my old PATA drive to the new build.
I found this link UbuntuHCL.org which helps in seeing on which motherboard Linux is run. With the help of this plz suggest a good mobo, and a cheap gfx card combined for arnd 6k.
ASUS P5QL PRO- i have found this for arnd $ 85. Other boards arnd this price have some issues as per Newegg review. In UbuntuHCL.org ASUS P5Q is given to be supported. so i think ASUS P5QL PRO is also supported.It has no onboard video. But i can buy some gfx card for arnd 2k
I found this link UbuntuHCL.org which helps in seeing on which motherboard Linux is run. With the help of this plz suggest a good mobo, and a cheap gfx card combined for arnd 6k.
ASUS P5QL PRO- i have found this for arnd $ 85. Other boards arnd this price have some issues as per Newegg review. In UbuntuHCL.org ASUS P5Q is given to be supported. so i think ASUS P5QL PRO is also supported.It has no onboard video. But i can buy some gfx card for arnd 2k
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Why don't you try AMD then ? It has a very good linux support, especially the 780G boards.
asus P5Q is 8k and Asus P5Q pro is 8.5k in india ...
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I know that the current arch is x64.
AFAIK The prob u r pointing out is due to device driver probs. Patches r available on net for the same. Also , sometimes to install linux on a particular machine u need to take pains coz many a times it just won't install - but saying that i will just reject ur system - is ATM sort of incorrect although its partially correct.U need to tweak some settings here and there to make it run.
Also AFAIK SuSE and RedHat have good hardware detection.
I remember installing the linux mandrake first time on my pc some 5 yrs back. I tried 3 times but install failed - reason : i setup the install config in a wrong manner , for which u need to be precise if the installation asks u for ur h/w config.After loosing all my partitions the 4th time it was atlast installed.
What i mean is that u have to find some way out to install linux distros frm the isos.
Also don't depend on the live CDs coz many times they will not work.
Now about the sata ports on msi broads - i never knew that so thanx for sharing that info.I guess thats bcoz they might be using diff controller for the sata ports.For e.g. for the ports connected to silicon or jMicron controller u need a separate driver to recognize those ports(i.e to say drives) frm linux.
seriously what are u talking there i did not understand what is correct and whats incorrect!
they do have better detection but he is talking about ubuntu ...which doesn't have such a great hardware support! fedora core 9.0 might have the best support availble for hardware.
how can u install something if it simply doesn't detect ur hard drive(SATA) ????on which u are going to install the OS in first place ??? where are u going to install it ???....perhaps a new kernel will solve the problem with newer architectures ...Linux work differently u need to have latest kernel and the device drivers u want/have and u need to recompile it for ur particular system ...for all the hardware to be recognized and work as they should.Thus the kernal should have the support of latest architecture ..which will come eventually ...for X38,P43,P45,G45 and X48 chipset from intel.
those days are history now !
its rather general problem of P45 chipset rather than those of MSI boards ..many other P45 chipset based bords doesn't work or support open SuSe 11.0 or Ubuntu out of the box ....AS of now!
and actually many bootloader are not compatible with jMicron SATA/IDE controllers specially GRUB the most common bootloader ...but latest kernal has support to fixed the issue along with latest BIOS support from chipset manufacturer or mobo maker ... still thats not a stale fix AFAIK it works some time and other time it doesn't...there are mobos which simply run out of the box without any issues
look at this link here -
*en.opensuse.org/HCL/Main_Boards
some motherboards have some issues or others are supported out of the box ..this link will clear ur doubt u have about the question..hopefully
the original poster wants a mobo which runs out of the box ...and thats what he meant by 64 bit support natively....if u see u will find that not all mobo support 64 bit ..or have some issue(labeled with question mark) also it tells u what supports had been added in 11 version of openSUSE ....i hope this will make u clear about what he meant by support of 64 bit linux OS distro support
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Hmmm good info...
Also for ill be trying suse 11 x64 on my p5q deluxe which is p45 based and we'll see what happens. Ill post if it does not or gets installed.
Also for ill be trying suse 11 x64 on my p5q deluxe which is p45 based and we'll see what happens. Ill post if it does not or gets installed.
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well whatever anyone says, IMO Linux will get installed well and normal features would be available, except for special Windows features for which driver is given in the driver disc, and this as desi and others said can be done by searching the driver.
But searching specifically for Ubuntu may be a trouble, because I generally(though long back when I used to work linux), most drivers said redhat and fedora and suse or debian, most known and highly used Linux distros.
But searching specifically for Ubuntu may be a trouble, because I generally(though long back when I used to work linux), most drivers said redhat and fedora and suse or debian, most known and highly used Linux distros.
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Its the reverse today. Ubuntu is the most popular linux distro, and it has support from multi billion dollar companies like Dell.
Things have changed to an extent that Ubuntu .deb packages are not compatible with Debian. Thats the ONE reason I am pissed off at ubuntu. With a small number of software exclusively released as ubuntu .deb files only, its hard to get them on Debian.
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