Linux 64-bit suppt Mobo

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naveen572

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Hello frnds
Thank u for ur replies. I have found this Mobo intel DG45ID which has onboardgraphics and 8gb ram. also at 6.5k. latest Ubuntu 8.10 Alph3 can be used to run it with latest linux kernel. I think this board with e7200 c2d will make a good combination. plz give ur comments
 

imgame2

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Hello frnds
Thank u for ur replies. I have found this Mobo intel DG45ID which has onboardgraphics and 8gb ram. also at 6.5k. latest Ubuntu 8.10 Alph3 can be used to run it with latest linux kernel. I think this board with e7200 c2d will make a good combination. plz give ur comments

i knew about this mobo before but i thought u wanted to go with ASUS due to overcloking flexibility ...but if u can live without overclocking.... this mobo is good enough for all ur needs and best part u can add a good gfx card of ur choice later on and as u found out this gets support of ur favourite flavour for linux - ubuntu ...so i guess its cool ..nothing much to say about intel boards..they are very stable almost all the time ..just look for any layout issue this board might have .....

since u specifically look for board which supports Ubuntu ....well choices are narrowed down drastically....otherwise at the budget MSI P45 neo + 7200gs is good enough for starting as later on u will have to upgrade to a better card ...
 
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naveen572

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@imgame2
Thanx for ur continous help. MSI p35&p45 boards support suse 10.0& 11.0 as enquired in MSI forums. The thing is can i get MSI board+gfx for 6.5k?
what are ur suggestions abt this config especially in increasing price/performance, better components for the same value.also suggest a suitable UPS. i dont know which type of UPS is needed. is wattage of SMPS enough? In addition to below components i have 1 pata hdd of 40gb & i cd-rw drive. Now i use 15" crt monitor. In future i will buy a 17" crt and a gfx card

Intel DG45id board 6400/-
Intel E7200 5475/-
Transcend 2 x 1GB 800Mhz DDR2 2100/-
Seagte 320GB HDD 2450/-
Samsung DVD Writer 1100/-
Zebronics Maharaja 1500/-
CoolerMaster Extreme Power 460W - WRS-460-PCAR-A3 - 2200
Logitech multimedia keyboard: 400rupees
Mouse: Microsoft optical: 400rupees
Back UPS of APC -2,300
total =20,775
 

imgame2

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@imgame2
Thanx for ur continous help. MSI p35&p45 boards support suse 10.0& 11.0 as enquired in MSI forums. The thing is can i get MSI board+gfx for 6.5k?
what are ur suggestions abt this config especially in increasing price/performance, better components for the same value.also suggest a suitable UPS. i dont know which type of UPS is needed. is wattage of SMPS enough? In addition to below components i have 1 pata hdd of 40gb & i cd-rw drive. Now i use 15" crt monitor. In future i will buy a 17" crt and a gfx card

Intel DG45id board 6400/-
Intel E7200 5475/-
Transcend 2 x 1GB 800Mhz DDR2 2100/-
Seagte 320GB HDD 2450/-
Samsung DVD Writer 1100/-
Zebronics Maharaja 1500/-
CoolerMaster Extreme Power 460W - WRS-460-PCAR-A3 - 2200
Logitech multimedia keyboard: 400rupees
Mouse: Microsoft optical: 400rupees
Back UPS of APC -2,300
total =20,775


its very good config in ur budget considering u constraint ...i guess 20~21k is the limit u want to buy the stuff if i m not wrong ...??
but before i answer please reply my few queries ..

1) do u want to overclock in future ??
2)do u want to upgrade to a better gfx card in future ??if yes which card ...??

cos a card like HD4850 will need a better PSU ..atleast i will suggest u to get a better one this PSU is bare minimum...if u want to go a card like HD4850..though but if u are planning to buy HD4670 cards i guess this PSU will suffice ... i think u should think about saving money there now ...just use the PSU get with the cabby and later on buy a proper PSU along with the gfx in any case that will be wise cos in ur budget right now i can't see any thing which will need a PSU like that .....(when i bought my upgrade intel DG31PR mobo + E7200,i did not need a new PSU worked fine with old 450W PSU...only when i went for HD4850 i went for good PSU )..so keep that in mind ..i think its always better to go for PSU once u have a good idea about the card u are buying ....
APC 650VA or APC 500 VA should be enough in ur case ..don't know the prices ...but i guess APC 500VA is the one u are talking about at that price ...

and MSI P45 neo costs 5.8k on itwares and 7200GS costs 1.2k at my place total 7k..so about 500/- higher than ur current but much better performance and overclocking flexibility ...

but bear in mind 7200GS is not a powerful card it will simply get ur system up and running and will let u use all the features of windows Vista aero system(thats if u ever go vista way ) but by all means its simply a basic card ! so don't expect any great performance from it ..still u can play old basic games with that on ur 15" monitor ...

but later on i think u might be in a situation to buy 19" LCD ..which i think will be a wiser option .....with whatever card u buy :)
 
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naveen572

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I will not OC. I dont know abt graphic cards.Do they consume that much power? Now i manage my p3+ 1hdd+512 Sdram+1 cd rw with 250w PSU. anyway i will buy gfx card if i need it for any application like CAD. How much power it needs i dont know.
Regarding writer i want a DVD & CD combo RW. which company is good? can i cut short on RAM by getting 1 single stick? how much will it effect performance? any other refining required.plz suggest.

@NucleusKore
Thanx .But i have decided on intel setup already

Now while reading abt intel g45 Mobo it is given that it has no IDE port at all. Then what abt my old PATA HDD? can i transfer its data to new sata hdd and how?
 
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imgame2

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I will not OC. I dont know abt graphic cards.Do they consume that much power? Now i manage my p3+ 1hdd+512 Sdram+1 cd rw with 250w PSU. anyway i will buy gfx card if i need it for any application like CAD. How much power it needs i dont know.
Regarding writer i want a DVD & CD combo RW. which company is good? can i cut short on RAM by getting 1 single stick? how much will it effect performance? any other refining required.plz suggest.

@NucleusKore
Thanx .But i have decided on intel setup already

if u will not OC ..then that mobo is good enough for u ....and actually gfx card the higher end ones consume considerable power ... just to show u how much they use the power ...look here

*www.legitreviews.com/article/486/15/

and i m not talking about 250 W power supply ..i m talking average power supply u get with ur cabinet ..thats more than enough for ur use ...i m talking about zebronics 450W that comes with the cabinet is more than enough ...though i don't know if maharaja comes with it ...but they are enough for ur system ...a good higher performance power supply is required for higher system performance ..when u add a high performing gfx card and overclock ur CPU ..

having said that i m not saying going for CMextreme 460W is bad idea ..its good thing if u can afford it ...but in ur case i think u can spend that money somewhere else ..may be save and get 19" LCD .....

since u don't want a gfx card i don't think there is any point suggesting u the option of MSI P45 neo ...cos its not worth since u are not going to overclock ...

go for the mobo u have chosen mobo the G45 chipset based and lateron buy a gfx card when u need and a 19" LCD ...(not 17" CRT )

if u only want to go for CAD i don't think u will ever need a gfx card the onboard gfx of G45 chipset is good ..GMA X4500 can do a lot for u ..... and if i were u ..i would save on PSU and gfx card and get 19" LCD (i know i m saying it again and again ..but they are going to be quite a standard soon so please consider them)

regarding DVD writer i guess go for moserbear/Liteon ones they don't face any problem so far i have heard ....don't go for sony and samsung ..they have countless issues ....i have an asus one its works fine for me

go for a single stick now ...as going for two stick will simply take up space and lateron will make them obsolute since ...memory is getting cheaper ..go for transcend 800 MHz 2Gb ...well nothing much performance difference since both are almost same ...but adding 2GB stick now will be better idea cos later on when u have money u can add 2GB more ...and thus u will be utilising full 8Gb some day and nothing will go waste ..

all this consedring u are not for MSI neo P45 ....since u don't need a gfx card but if u are going then i think its wise to go for Asus 8600GT 256 MBDDR3 @3k rather than 7200gs ...anyday ...
 

acewin

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just adding to ingame2 we ahve a very good 400W PSU from Antec in 800-900 bucks use this without thinking with the GFX card recommended by ingame2 except for cards like 9600GT and HD4850 and better. will suffice your needs, and also save up if you ever think to addon a high end GPU with a new PSU supporting the power reqs( you will need minimum of 400W PSU to run your system of config being suggested here even if not OCing)

Its the reverse today. Ubuntu is the most popular linux distro, and it has support from multi billion dollar companies like Dell.

Things have changed to an extent that Ubuntu .deb packages are not compatible with Debian. Thats the ONE reason I am pissed off at ubuntu. With a small number of software exclusively released as ubuntu .deb files only, its hard to get them on Debian.

yeah 2 years is long time, havent worked on Linux since long cannot install them on my office machines and do not have one of my own. Back at that time Redhat released new fedora versions each 6-8 months. Ubuntu was just new. And we used Suse mostly because our insti had a registered version of it, and installint it was very easy, and Windows NTFS format was supported by SuSE so data on windows drives could easily be taken.

Now I even do not know what features Ubuntu has in it, I really liked testing new Linux distros, and formatted my system like each month:D

SuSE became Opensource already one and half year back.

waiting to build one rig of my own, :( saving up money.
 
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naveen572

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Hello guys
Iam back to square one. Intel Mobo has no 100% SOLID polymer capacitors for long life.
I got this alternative ASUS p5k-vm at 5.1k,100% solid,8gbram,onboard graphics,
linux compatible,1 pci-ex16 slot. in addition 2 pci,1 pci-e x 4(not 1). microATX.
can i go with this one? any major cons for this? plz give ur suggestions.
 
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