Is Maths Necessary To Become A Computer Scientist?

[vaithy]

Students who took computer science are finding very difficult to concentrating on computer related subjects if Maths is excessively included .. After graduation they found impossible to face the reality in emerging world scenario and joint specialized computer courses (Aptech ,NIIT ,BITS pilani and others) This cost them time and money.. instead the curriculum of Universities should be friendly as that of the private institutions and in realtime learning skills..Out of 9 to 10 of graduates of Computer Science Students findout when they face the interviewer in the infosys, wipro campus selection failed to make even simple programme involving C and Java on their own even they com flying colors in Maths...

with regards,
Vaithy

 

[praka123]

^very true@vaidy.
I got arrears maths(few) to get cleared for my Electronics and Communication Engg course(ECE) from Bharathiar University(batch 97-2001) Coimbatore.and for my branch,there is 7 Math papers(in total course) and the syllabus was from 1993.even worst things was studied fortran77,some pascal with the syllabus, very relevent subjects sigh!

 

[dreamcatcher]

ah man..maths is very essential in field of computers....well its nt really needed on the b tech course but nwen one has to do do ms...it does ring a bell..nw cummon...maths is nt tht bad..i love maths here...in skul it was the only subject and computers that actualy gt me to pass..i always gt 90..well thesea re the two subjscts tht u dnt have to study too much...and maths is cool..
i just got thissum yesterday..try it..2^1990 if diided by 1990..wats the rem..

 

[RCuber]

@charangk,

Those Game programming, Formula 1 simulation testing, multimedia encoding are specialisations which you take up later.
You got to learn it when you are in it. Why learn them now?

With connection to my previous posts, the whole point of my discussion is that two papers are wasted every year in maths. And during this two years, as a computer science student we have learned only C/C++ which even a school going student knows very well these days.
No papers like Java, VB, .net, etc while enough time is dedicated to other useless papers(not only maths) that serves no purpose.

:sigh: Sorry I cannot explain more... I droped maths thinking that it was only for 1st and 2nd year.. just tried to clear maths ( just clear it anyway and you will never have to deal with it again) and now im licking my wounds . I didnot study well in maths, didnt really care just thinking Differential calculus and fourier transforms were just for maths. Direct hit for me- Signals and systems , Advanced Image processing and many others.... I was just taking out my old maths book again the above subjects. ( ho yes for practicals also )

 

[Garbage]

Those Game programming, Formula 1 simulation testing, multimedia encoding are specialisations which you take up later.
You got to learn it when you are in it. Why learn them now?

Do u think that when u'll be IN industry then they gonna teach u maths instead of their special ones ??? I never hope so...

Better is to learn maths when u learn other subjects. & Believe me it helps a lot.

 

[Manshahia]

this maths was the most f***ing subject I ever had in the last 6 semesters. I don't know what the Fourier transform, laplace, and a hell lot got to do with Computer Science. That to with high credit points. Means you have to score well in these papers.

The first and second year where the most boring in comp. science.
I had to read Physics(I/II), Chemistry(I/II), Maths( 4 papers + 1 Discrete Mathematics), Electrical(electrical, Network theory, Electrical Machines),
Mechanics, Thermodynamics, Economics, Organisational Behaviour, Electronics(Basic, Analogue and digital- these were useful papers).


But the core subjects where only four- C, Datastructure, C++, RDBMS.

Now, guys do you think these subjects are of any use in computer science?
Anyway, those terrible days are over

its india dude...

 

[Zeeshan Quireshi]

Discreet Mathematics is very very essential for a software developer .

its india dude...

that's why i'm givin the SAT n AP in CS AB

 

[casanova]

Yes. Really necessary. One of the projects I made in T.Y. was completely reliying on maths and thats when I came to know the importance. BTW this project was not a calculator.

One of my maths professor used to complain about other professors saying that they are computer graduates without mathematics.

Put it this way, if it was not necessary. Nobody would have done graduation, instead they would have done only courses like GNIIT.

 

[Sykora]

The question was : "Is mathematics necessary to become a computer scientist?". My answer is definitely yes, but it is not necessary to become the kind of programmer that IT companies want. They don't want computer scientists, they want programmers, and they only need rudimentary discrete mathematics. If you want to become a hard-core computer scientist, mathematics is _the_ subject you must learn, on par with programming, maybe even more so. Discrete mathematics is a must, with at least a nodding acquaintance with the rest of math.

 

[Vishal Gupta]

No math is not necessary to become a scientist. U must be 14 years old and must born in an Indian village.

 

[Zeeshan Quireshi]

The question was : "Is mathematics necessary to become a computer scientist?". My answer is definitely yes, but it is not necessary to become the kind of programmer that IT companies want. They don't want computer scientists, they want programmers, and they only need rudimentary discrete mathematics. If you want to become a hard-core computer scientist, mathematics is _the_ subject you must learn, on par with programming, maybe even more so. Discrete mathematics is a must, with at least a nodding acquaintance with the rest of math.

yups , you need to know atleast basic calsulus , functions n all(no trigonometry please) to even be a proficient programmer coz how will you implement the algorithms developed by a scientist when you have absolutely no idea of how it works .

 

[sandeepk]

For a Computer Engg. maths taught in degree course has very little meaning. They should set the course according to the branch of student taking a course. So a student with mechanical engg should have maths course more relevant to his degree course and computer engg. should have modified one relevent to his course.

 

[Zeeshan Quireshi]

For a Computer Engg. maths taught in degree course has very little meaning. They should set the course according to the branch of student taking a course. So a student with mechanical engg should have maths course more relevant to his degree course and computer engg. should have modified one relevent to his course.

yups , but i guess Indian Educator's don't get it .

Everyone can't be good at everything so please stop burdening Indian students and take a cue from the US education system .

 

[gaurav_indian]

Students who took computer science are finding very difficult to concentrating on computer related subjects if Maths is excessively included .. After graduation they found impossible to face the reality in emerging world scenario and joint specialized computer courses (Aptech ,NIIT ,BITS pilani and others) This cost them time and money.. instead the curriculum of Universities should be friendly as that of the private institutions and in realtime learning skills..Out of 9 to 10 of graduates of Computer Science Students findout when they face the interviewer in the infosys, wipro campus selection failed to make even simple programme involving C and Java on their own even they com flying colors in Maths...

with regards,
Vaithy

I second that.I have done BCA from IGNOU and now doing last sem of MCA from the same university.But i cant understand why subjects like history,accounts,etc included in these.Although Maths is important becoz without maths you cant be a good programmer.

 

[gary4gar]

do guys are making me scared!
i have just passed 12th & in college Discreet Mathematics is in my cource
i am scared

 

[gaurav_indian]

do guys are making me scared!
i have just passed 12th & in college Discreet Mathematics is in my cource
i am scared

 

[Lucky_star]

For a Computer Engg. maths taught in degree course has very little meaning. They should set the course according to the branch of student taking a course. So a student with mechanical engg should have maths course more relevant to his degree course and computer engg. should have modified one relevent to his course.

Yah, Exactly that's what I'm saying. I am not denying that there should be no maths at all. But it should be according to the course structure. So that the student can learn the applications of maths rather than simply practising the problems and clearing the exams.

Actually, I am totally fed up with the maths I've been learning in this engg. curriculum. Our proffessors also say that more than half of it is not necessary for us. And more severe is the grading system. Its the maths papers that always have the highest credit points like 4. At the same time branch papers have got less credits like 3,2. That means, we have to score higher in maths(while lesser grades can be enough in other papers). In my college, say in my class, You give them a maths problem and 80-90% students can solve it immediately. Now, give them a simple C/C++ program to design. Only 5-10 out of the whole strength will be able to solve the problem.

Now, Guys, Do you think this should be the scenario? To be a computer scientist or whatever?

 

[busyanuj]

this maths was the most f***ing subject I ever had in the last 6 semesters. I don't know what the Fourier transform, laplace, and a hell lot got to do with Computer Science. That to with high credit points. Means you have to score well in these papers.
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But the core subjects where only four- C, Datastructure, C++, RDBMS.

Now, guys do you think these subjects are of any use in computer science?
Anyway, those terrible days are over

get on with programming and implementing complex algorithms such as image/pattern recognition/matching and other numerous areas. you'll find your laplace fourier and other maths in there.

 

[ranjan2001]

I just had a dekko on an article in which it was remarked that Maths isnt necessary to become a computer scientist.

I voted no,
but I meant "its not necessary"
bcoz
all the science we have today is partly due to creative thinking & thats not ruled by our logic instead its ruled by our illogical side of the brain & our illogic side is far more capable than our logics, its just a matter of understanding ur capability & utilizing it for the purpose.