Help configure a new rig

[slugger]

Update 2010.01.30 - All Hardware purchased Need advice buying some peripherals for up to Rs. 500

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Update 2010.01.26 - Hardware purchased - only Mouse remains Need help buying 1


Am planning to buy a Laser mouse in the price range of Rs. 600-700. Have been able to find 2 that look like decent buys

Aero Dynamic Laser Designer Mouse
Laser Precise Speedster - Mini

No permanent URLs for the iBall website #fail

UMAX too had some mouse in that price range but visiting their website gave me a warning from FF - so gave it a miss.

Any other suggestions for mouse in the price range would be highly appreciated - am willing to push the budget to 800 max


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Hi
I am planning to assemble a lo-mid-range rig for my own use. Plan to make it a jack of all trade master of none kinda rig.

Things I have to do [& intend to do] with it

Work with Catia [just to stay in touch with it - no professional stuff ]

Do some casual gaming

Planning to start doing some very basic video editing [ex joining multiple clips to create a montage with some transition thrown in, demuxing & remuxing it with bg music]

Watch HD movies


My budget: Rs. 47 000 [excl OS]

Approximate break-up of cost allocated

GPU - [9 000]
Processor - 6 000
Cabinet - [2 500]
Monitor - [11 000]
Mobo - [5 000]
RAM - 2 000
HDD - 6 000
DVD - [1 500]
PSU - [2 500]
Keyboard+Mouse - [1 500]

Drawn up a tentative list of hardware that would go inside the cabinet

Ones marked in Red my 1st choice provided it fits my 47000 budget

Processor [6 000]

Want to build it around a Quad Core

Athlon II X4 620 (2.6GHz)

Athlon II X4 630 (2.8GHz)


GPU [9 000]

DX 11-compatible

ATI Radeon™ HD 5770 Graphics

ATI Radeon™ HD 5750 Graphics


Cabinet [2 500]

Cooler Master Elite 330

Cooler Master Elite 310

Any suggestion from Antec within the allotted price range


Monitor [11 000]

Looking for a 22" in the 10k-12k range Any more suggestion would be appreciated

Updated - AOC 2236Vw

Updated - Samsung 2233SW h/t Krow

Updated - Dell S2209W h/t Krow

BenQ E2200HD


Mobo [5 000]

MSI 785GM-E51

MSI 785GM-E65

Updated - GA - MA785GMT - UD2H h/t Krow

If budget permits, may also take a look at Asus M4A785TD-V EVO


RAM [2 000]

2*2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 Kingston Value RAM


DVD-writer [1 500]

SATA
LG GH22
BenQ
LiteOn


PSU [2 500]

Corsair CX 400W

Updated - Gigabyte Superb 460 h/t Krow

Updated - Sea Sonic S12II-380Bronze h/t Krow

VIP Gold 400W - Reco by Agent 001 [What would be VIP's website - not finding it ]


Keyboard+Mouse [1 500]

Keyboard - Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000

Mouse - Want to buy someting from Razer - any suggesstion?

Also any low cost-VFM backlit keyboard suggestion? very much needed


HDD [6 000]

After spending on all of the above with the money remaining will buy a 1TB/1.5TB HDD

Companies
Segate
Western Digital
Hitachi
whichever gives the lowest price & highest warranty

I got a working Altec Lansing ATP3 that is working fine & a APC UPS [not sure if it would provide sufficient back up tho for this rig]

Also need help selecting a low-cost VFM Netbook - will start a new thread later

Update - 2010.01.22
Here is the list of lowest price quoted for the hardware I had put up. I am yet to recieve quotes from 3-4 more vendors, but most of the people who were most likely to give me the lowest quote have already done it. The ones I've blacked out are the ones I've not got a quote yet.

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Personal experiance: If you tell the vendor that you are comparing the prices of hardware quoted by different vendors/dealers & will purchase that particular hardware from the dealer giving the least quote, vendors tend to bend over their back to give you the least quote & may even ring you up to give you a lower quote [happened to me ]

Update - 2010.01.23

narrowing down my list - not fixed - could pick up something else too if found interesting
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Update - 2010.01.24

Purchased the hardware

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H/T Krow for suggesting the Monitor - much appreciated

Update 2010.01.30 - Final price & config of my rig

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H/T Krow for suggesting the Monitor & PSU & everbody else who backed up his advice - much appreciated

 

[Krow]

Approximate break-up of cost allocated

GPU - [9 000]
Processor - 6 000
Cabinet - [2 500]
Monitor - [11 000]
Mobo - [5 000]
RAM - 2 000
HDD - 6 000
DVD - [1 500]
PSU - [2 500]
Keyboard+Mouse - [1 500]

Drawn up a tentative list of hardware that would go inside the cabinet

Ones marked in Red my 1st choice provided it fits my 47000 budget

Processor [6 000]

Want to build it around a Quad Core

Athlon II X4 620 (2.6GHz)

Athlon II X4 630 (2.8GHz) [get the above and overclock it by 0.2 GHz, not necessary to spend extra just for a 0.2GHz higher clock]


GPU [9 000]

DX 11-compatible

ATI Radeon™ HD 5770 Graphics (no other choice really, if you want DX11 compatibility and at the budget)

ATI Radeon™ HD 5750 Graphics


Cabinet [2 500]

Cooler Master Elite 330
Cooler Master Elite 310
Look for CM Elite 335.

Monitor [11 000]

Looking for a 22" in the 10k-12k range Any more suggestion would be appreciated

BenQ E2200HD
Dell S2209W @ 9k
Samsung 2233SW @ 9k
Dell S2409W @ 13.5k

Mobo [5 000]

MSI 785GM-E51
MSI 785GM-E65
Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H @ 5.5k or the MSI E51. E65 supports max 1333MHz DDR3, while E51 has support for higher.

If budget permits, may also take a look at Asus M4A785TD-V EVO [not worth the premium]


RAM [2 000]

2*2 GB 800 MHz DDR2 Kingston Value RAM [the boards you have chosen are all DDR3 compliant and the days when you used to get 4GB RAM for 2k are gone. Now both DDR2 and DDR3 are for almost the same price]
Go for 2x2GB Kingston DDR3 1333MHz @ 4.6k.

DVD-writer [1 500]

SATA
LG GH22NS630 @ 1.1k
BenQ
LiteOn


PSU [2 500]

Corsair CX 400W
VIP Gold 400W - Reco by Agent 001 [What would be VIP's website - not finding it ]
A big NO to VIP.
Get: Gigabyte 460W @ 2.2k or Seasonic S12II Bronze 380W @ 3k (better) or look for some FSP PSU's at www.lynx-india.com

Keyboard+Mouse [1 500]

Keyboard - Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000

Mouse - Want to buy someting from Razer - any suggesstion?

Also any low cost-VFM backlit keyboard suggestion? very much needed
No idea.

HDD [6 000]

After spending on all of the above with the money remaining will buy a 1TB/1.5TB HDD

Companies
Segate [I avoid Seagate like the plague ]
Western Digital [WD Green 1.5TB should be for 5.6k, same as the performance drive WD Black 1TB]
Hitachi
whichever gives the lowest price & highest warranty

I got a working Altec Lansing ATP3 that is working fine & a APC UPS [not sure if it would provide sufficient back up tho for this rig]

Added stuff to the quote itself. Please have a look.

 

[slugger]

thanks a lot Krow - very helpful

Sorry for not getting back earlier - totally lacked time to pursue rig configuration

Have looked up some additional hardware too that seems to offer good balance of price-performance. will post them in a bit for members to take a look & advice

Thanks

 

[slugger]

I've updated the possible hardware config with these addition


Monitor
Updated - AOC 2236Vw

Updated - Samsung 2233SW h/t Krow

Updated - Dell S2209W h/t Krow

Mobo
Updated - GA - MA785GMT - UD2H h/t Krow

PSU
Updated - Gigabyte Superb 460 h/t Krow

Updated - Sea Sonic S12II-380Bronze h/t Krow

@Krow
Had initally planned to build my computer inside a Cool Master 335 But then price turned out to be a bit outa budget so I excluded it from the list. Will check with dealers - if price affodable will definitely go for it

Found the AOC monitor - reviews sounded quite good and pice too looked very VFM Think i should go for it?

Again I ask Any suggesttion for VFM back-lit keyboard [budget 2.5k max]

 

[ajai5777]

I dunno why are you going for ddr2 ram in this config.Both mobos mentioned earlier are ddr3 supported and you can simply go for ddr3 ram 1333.

 

[Krow]

The CM Elite 335 should cost around 2.1k. No idea about the backlit keyboard. What price are you getting for the AOC Monitor?

I have heard from forum members that AOC Fovi F22 is pretty good. You may check it out too.

 

[coderunknown]

frnd, get X4 620 + Asus M4A785TD-V EVO. no use getting the X4 630, total waste of money. better get X4 620 & OC it to past 630 speed. & also ASUS board is one of the best QUALITY budget board available thought priced @ 6.6-6.8k (read review by hardware chanucks, 7 785g mobo shootout by Tom's Hardware). & dat means u'll hav 2 go4 DDR3-1333Mhz. don't end up buying those fancy sounding 1600Mhz+ kits. 1333Mhz enough until u OC lot. & PSU, get Corsair VX450. never compromise on PSU on such costly performance rigs. Krow wil guide u well.

 

[Krow]

frnd, get X4 620 + Asus M4A785TD-V EVO. no use getting the X4 630, total waste of money. better get X4 620 & OC it to past 630 speed. & also ASUS board is one of the best QUALITY budget board available thought priced @ 6.6-6.8k (read review by hardware chanucks, 7 785g mobo shootout by Tom's Hardware). & dat means u'll hav 2 go4 DDR3-1333Mhz. don't end up buying those fancy sounding 1600Mhz+ kits. 1333Mhz enough until u OC lot. & PSU, get Corsair VX450. never compromise on PSU on such costly performance rigs. Krow wil guide u well.

IMHO, the Gigabyte motherboard is good enough for slugger. Even though the performance is good, I always avoid recommending ASUS as far as possible due to numerous complaints about bad customer service. Rashi Peripherals has a bad reputation. The VX450W is overkill for the needs. The graphic card he will be buying consumes very less power at load too. About 108W at full load IIRC. So the Seasonic S12II Bronze 380W @ 3k is a great option with 3 year warranty. If the OP wants better warranty, then he may opt for Corsair CX400W @ 3.3k with 5 year warranty.

 

[coderunknown]

CX400 looks nice. cost only 300 more then Seasonic & gives 2yr extra warranty. & Rashi damaging reputation of a nice brand.

 

[vickybat]

Guys what about the core i3 range of processors?

Do they make a viable option against the athlon x4 620?

 

[coderunknown]

Guys what about the core i3 range of processors?

Do they make a viable option against the athlon x4 620?

they certainly do. for gamers mainly who want 2 physical cores during gaming hours & 2 physical + 2 logic other time. bt for non gamers who satisfied with IGP nt so much. IGP on i3 is BAD. real bad. wheres as 785G @ 500Mhz (stock speed) give somewhat playable FPS in demanding games, i3 on chip IGP causes games 2 crash. Eg: Wolfstein. (reference: inpai).

 

[Cool G5]

I think you should go in for an i5 rig. Just my opinion.

 

[slugger]

@ajai5777
Sorry, meant to change it to DDR3 1333MHz forgot Thanks for pointing it out

@Krow
Got a quote of 2450 for Cooler Master 330 Elite & 2800 for 335 [though 335 price quote I will have to check again with vendor - person @ counter looked kinda lost]

Am yet to get a quote for AOC - those who did not stock it said AOC's service is not that good though admitting nothing really wrong with product

Got quotes for the othe Monitor - tending to like Samsung 2233SW more and more - checked out reviews too - not bad - should I buy it or Dell [more expenive & tends to disrupt my 47000 budget]

Actualy can live w/o the back light keyboard for some time - got a 2W CFD bulb in the keyboard tray. When [actually if] I start earning, will buy a Logitech G15 or G19 keyboard with my first salalry & gift it to my mother

@Sam.Shab
Thanks for your input m8 - I think I may be able to squeeze in the Asus Mobo within the 47k budget list. Lets see

@Cool G5
An i5 based rig..hmmm would've been nice

Did not hunt v seriously for them but quick look over gave me impression that they're more expensinve compared to X4 Athlon 620 & alos more exp mobos for it. Budget - 47 000 Indian Rupees

Here is the list of lowest price quoted for the hardware I had put up. I am yet to recieve quotes from 3-4 more vendors, but most of the people who were most likely to give me the lowest quote have already done it. The ones I've blacked out are the ones I've not got a quote yet.

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Also GUYS
Any VFM laser mouse for around 1 000 rupees - guy showed me a Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 for 2 300 rupees

If not then a 500-700 rupees comfy Optical mouse suggesstion very much welcomed

Forgot all about the mouse - Budget Rs. 48 000

Also will the HD 5750 support the resolution of the monitors listed - will have to check it out. A quick reply from you would save me a lot of time

 

[coderunknown]

frnd core i3 530 hav landed on indian soil. performs very good. & OC like crazy (anandtech review it 2day 4Ghz stable stock HSF. WOW). price is good. just needs a quality motherboard nt those Intel ORIGINAL. so, hav a look at it also bfore deciding on ur rig config.

 

[vickybat]

hi

Ya i too feel a bit biased towards the i3. Since i have the i5 750,these cpu's are fast and also are energy efficient. So i suggest you to take a look at the i3 530 and read some reviews before making a decision.From what i have read the i3 trounces the athlon 2 x4 630 in many apps so the 620 is definitely slower.

For the gpu wait a bit more until fermi arrives & believe me it looks pretty promising having all features ati 5 series has including eyefinity and some xtras like 3d and physx.
Even after fermi launch the ati gpu's price may even come down so its goin to be worth the wait.

 

[slugger]

@Sam.Shab @vickybat
Hi,
before i Googled some reviews, I Googled "core i3" +Rs, that gave me results saying that a i3 530 will cost me 7500, that is almost 2500 more than what I may pay for the Athlon II X4 620.

Now if a processor [or anything] cost 2500 more than some other processor, it is expected that it also performs better than the something that costs 2500 less. Though I'd've loved to build a rig around a i3 [or i7 for that matter], the problem is that my budget goes dangerously over 47 000 - a complete no-no for me
Also i3s being released only in 2010, original Intel mobos will be expensive & finding VFM 3party mobo might also be a problem - again pushing up my budget.

I can always wait for prices to drop before making my purchase of these HWs & get an awesome price, but then again there will always be news of another release giving much better performance consuming much lesser power if I wait for some more time - it is quite never ending I think

So assuming I have a budget of 5000 from my processr, how is my choice of the AMD Athlon II X4 620 [with a lil OCing later]

Also I cant quite wait for the release of Fermi & drp in price of the 5750 - things need to be done that requires a rig now & my current computer is behaving quite strangely now-a-days

Again repeating

Any VFM laser mouse for around 1000 rupees - guy showed me a Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 for 2300 rupees

If not then a 500-700 rupees comfy Optical mouse suggesstion very much welcomed

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beginning to narrow down my choice of hardware - not fixed though - could pick up something else too if I find interesting

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[coderunknown]

Change these & check price again. HD 5770 1Gb, Asus M4A785TD-V EVO, Corsair/Gskill 4Gb DDR3-1333 kit, WD 1Tb Black, Samsung/LG 22X (stay away from SONY), Benq G2220HD 22''. wil come under 47k. laser mouse extra.

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Change these & check price again. HD 5770 1Gb, Asus M4A785TD-V EVO, Corsair/Gskill 4Gb DDR3-1333 kit, WD 1Tb Black, Samsung/LG 22X (stay away from SONY), Benq G2220HD 22''. wil come under 47k. laser mouse extra. X4 620 can OC to 3.0Ghz, stock cooler easily.

 

[slugger]

latest price i got - reduced price for the processor, reduced price for Asus mobo

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will be getting a revised quote from 1 more vendor - will see how it works out Else may purchase these at the price quoted - need to get some work done using this rig now

not buying the VIP SMPS - Gigabyte FTW

 

[slugger]

Purchased the hardware

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H/T Krow for suggesting the Monitor - much appreciated

After some last minute bargaining which involved me having to make corrections to the cheque I got the price down to Rs. 48100. The increase in the total price was becuse I decided to change the SMPS to Coolermaster 600W for possible future upgrade.

Though this means that theoretically I have no budget for a mouse Will buy something for 500-600 Any suggestions?

Thanks to everybody who responded much appreciated

 

[asingh]

^^
Is not that SMPS..doubtful. CM Extreme..?