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whitestar_999

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Primeabgb is the official distributor of many pc component brands in India(incl many ssd brands) so it is preferred to buy ssd directly from there if price difference isn't much. mdcomputers.in,vedantcomputers.com & theitdepot also similarly are official distributors of many pc component brands. Even though I live in delhi where nehru place is,I still find many pc components are cheaper on these sites/during big online sales like coming flipkart big billion/amazon great shopping so I order from there.
 
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

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Primeabgb is the official distributor of many pc component brands in India(incl many ssd brands) so it is preferred to buy ssd directly from there if price difference isn't much. mdcomputers.in,vedantcomputers.com & theitdepot also similarly are official distributors of many pc component brands. Even though I live in delhi where nehru place is,I still find many pc components are cheaper on these sites/during big online sales like coming flipkart big billion/amazon great shopping so I order from there.

It seems ASRock B450M PRO4 / B450 PRO4 both are OOS from entire universe - MDC / Primeabgb / theitdepot / Local market.
Creative Peripheral And Distribution Ltd. (official distributor) told me they don't have it in Lucknow and gave me a Gorakhpur Dealer's number who doesn't stock it as AMD systems are not selling much there.
it appears ASRock is not interested in selling in India.
Same is the case with Crucial but that I can get online.
A good vendor even asked me to visit his shop as he has other options for both MB and SSD.
i will try few more people in local market tomorrow.
 
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nac

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Around this time last year, I too tried to get the same Asrock board. But couldn't get it and I couldn't wait for weeks for them to restock. My guess is they will restock in 2-3 weeks, before diwali they will have stock.
Since the Asrock model is out of stock, you can consider other brand/models as well.
For an APU, even low tier board is fine as long as you don't overclock. But at least buy a board which has VRM heatsink. All of these B450 do have VRM heatsink. So check availability of these boards and it's pricing. If you're looking for any specific feature set from the board (video port, usb port, sata, m.2 etc), check it's specification and narrow down.
I grouped into 4, first is better than the 2nd and 2nd is better than 3rd. Check the last group only if you don't find any board from the first three groups.

B450 Pro4
B450M Pro4 / B450M Pro4 F
FATAL1TY B450 GAMING4
B450M BAZOOKA PLUS

TUF B450M PRO GAMING

B450M GAMING

B450M PRO-VDH
B450M HDV
B450M DS3H
 
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vidhubhushan

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i am not in a hurry right now as my ancient system is still breathing. thanks friends for the help.

@nac - you have mentioned B450 Pro4 before B450M Pro4. is it just like that or you find it better?
 

nac

Aspiring Novelist
@nac - you have mentioned B450 Pro4 before B450M Pro4. is it just like that or you find it better?
ATX version of Pro4 has more space, ports in the board. As for VRM performance is concern, that entire group (Pro4, M Pro4, Fatal1ty, Bazooka+) is about same.
 
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

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@whitestar_999 - I haven't been able to buy it till now because of unavailability of Asrock board and some financial constraints. Now both the concerns are not there. By now some of the components have different pricing and something new might have come up. So should I start all over again with a new thread or continue here? thanks.
 

whitestar_999

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First of all,buy the asrock mobo asap as once it gets out of stock it may not come back again for weeks/months.
Buy Online Asrock B450 Pro4 AMD AM4 Socket Motherboard lowest price in india at www.theitdepot.com
Call them to confirm the latest bios update for ryzen 3xxx compatibility but it should be there as another member here just order & received this mobo yesterday with ryzen 3xxx compatible bios. Need Advice on Upgrading Processor and MB Mainly

Only thing to decide now is which amd processor you are going to get.
 
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

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First of all,buy the asrock mobo asap as once it gets out of stock it may not come back again for weeks/months.
Buy Online Asrock B450 Pro4 AMD AM4 Socket Motherboard lowest price in india at www.theitdepot.com
Call them to confirm the latest bios update for ryzen 3xxx compatibility but it should be there as another member here just order & received this mobo yesterday with ryzen 3xxx compatible bios. Need Advice on Upgrading Processor and MB Mainly

Only thing to decide now is which amd processor you are going to get.

Thanks dear. Sent email, will call during office hours.

Budget might be stretched some more but requirements remain the same, so is the expected usage of 5-6 years.
Decided to add Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM HDD though it is not available right now in my city so waiting as not going to buy HDD online.
CORSAIR Carbide Series 175R RGB is another item which looks good.

Gone through some threads here so some more confusion :D

1. Amd Ryzen 5 3400G APU or something else?

2. Corsair Vengeance Lpx 8GB DDR4 3200MHz or ADATA XPG GAMMIX D30 8GB DDR4 3200MHZ?

3. Crucial MX500 2.5inch 250GB SATA III 3D SSD CT250MX500SSD1 or Intel 512GB 660P NVMe M.2 Internal SSD SSDPEKNW512G8X1?

Will Corsair CX450 be sufficient for 1 SSD, 1 or 2 HDDs and later may be a BluRay drive/Writer?

Thanks.
 

toofan

Technomancer
Yes its ryzen 5 ready and in stock with theitdepote.com.
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whitestar_999

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1. Amd Ryzen 5 3400G APU or something else?

2. Corsair Vengeance Lpx 8GB DDR4 3200MHz or ADATA XPG GAMMIX D30 8GB DDR4 3200MHZ?

3. Crucial MX500 2.5inch 250GB SATA III 3D SSD CT250MX500SSD1 or Intel 512GB 660P NVMe M.2 Internal SSD SSDPEKNW512G8X1?

Will Corsair CX450 be sufficient for 1 SSD, 1 or 2 HDDs and later may be a BluRay drive/Writer?
1. If planning on adding a 10k+ graphics card later then buy ryzen 3500+some cheap/used 1.5k graphics card now else get 3400G if you are sure you will not buy any graphics card in next 4-5 years.
2.Buy whichever is cheaper but I think adata will be cheaper when getting from vedantcomputers.
3.If you think 250gb is enough for you then get mx500 else get intel 660p,you won't notice any difference in typical daily tasks.
CX450 is more than enough for upto ryzen 3600 with any graphics card till nvidia 1660.
 
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

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1. If planning on adding a 10k+ graphics card later then buy ryzen 3500+some cheap/used 1.5k graphics card now else get 3400G if you are sure you will not buy any graphics card in next 4-5 years.
2.Buy whichever is cheaper but I think adata will be cheaper when getting from vedantcomputers.
3.If you think 250gb is enough for you then get mx500 else get intel 660p,you won't notice any difference in typical daily tasks.
CX450 is more than enough for upto ryzen 3600 with any graphics card till nvidia 1660.

thanks dear for the help.

1. Do I need any graphics card for occasional video editing / encoding? My other work will be general purpose only - Heavy web browsing, Watching movies / hevc encoded movies etc. NO GAMING EVEN IN FUTURE.
2. will confirm here in local market and if it is cheaper and within budget, I might go for 8 X 2 from whichever place gives cheaper.
3. it will be just windows 10, office 365 / OpenOffice, AV, Firefox, Opera, VLC, MPC, GOM, handbrake, audacity, acrobat reader, kindle, calibre, qbittorrent and gcc etc. I can't think of anything else which might be heavy. i think it will be more than 100gb.
 

whitestar_999

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thanks dear for the help.

1. Do I need any graphics card for occasional video editing / encoding? My other work will be general purpose only - Heavy web browsing, Watching movies / hevc encoded movies etc. NO GAMING EVEN IN FUTURE.
2. will confirm here in local market and if it is cheaper and within budget, I might go for 8 X 2 from whichever place gives cheaper.
3. it will be just windows 10, office 365 / OpenOffice, AV, Firefox, Opera, VLC, MPC, GOM, handbrake, audacity, acrobat reader, kindle, calibre, qbittorrent and gcc etc. I can't think of anything else which might be heavy. i think it will be more than 100gb.
1. For occasional video editing/encoding,a good quad core processor is fine.
2. I doubt you will get cheaper than this ADATA XPG GAMMIX D30 8GB (8GBX1) DDR4 3200MHZ RAM
3. 250gb comes with ~232gb of usable space out of which it is a good practice to leave ~10-15% space free so effectively ~200gb of space which should be enough.
 
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

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1. For occasional video editing/encoding,a good quad core processor is fine.
2. I doubt you will get cheaper than this ADATA XPG GAMMIX D30 8GB (8GBX1) DDR4 3200MHZ RAM
3. 250gb comes with ~232gb of usable space out of which it is a good practice to leave ~10-15% space free so effectively ~200gb of space which should be enough.
Thanks dear.
So It is -
Amd Ryzen 5 3400G APU
Crucial MX500 2.5inch 250GB
AData
i will post after some more update from my end.
 
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

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Seagate 7200RPM is not available right now. Toshiba 2TB 7200RPM is available for 4150 with 2 years warranty. Seagate is available on mdcomputers for 4900. price wise, toshiba is cheaper. any one has any idea of its quality, performance and after sales support?
 

whitestar_999

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Seagate 7200RPM is not available right now. Toshiba 2TB 7200RPM is available for 4150 with 2 years warranty. Seagate is available on mdcomputers for 4900. price wise, toshiba is cheaper. any one has any idea of its quality, performance and after sales support?
Quality & performance of all hdd with same rpm are more or less equal nowadays. As for Toshiba hdd after sales support just ask local dealer about it because toshiba does not accept online submission of hdd rma requests so you will have to physically get it delivered to their rma centre.Rashi peripherals is handling toshiba hdd rma & they have a branch in Lucknow so contact them for clarification:
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

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Quality & performance of all hdd with same rpm are more or less equal nowadays. As for Toshiba hdd after sales support just ask local dealer about it because toshiba does not accept online submission of hdd rma requests so you will have to physically get it delivered to their rma centre.Rashi peripherals is handling toshiba hdd rma & they have a branch in Lucknow so contact them for clarification:
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thanks dear. the dealer said it is good but then local dealers are ready to push whatever they have in their stock. the seagate distributor said everyone buys 5400rpm as it is more durable and also asked what special work i will be doing which requires a 7200RPM hdd. also told they will not even order it for a single piece. i told him a simple fact that in my city a difference of 700-800 is big and most of the people will settle for 5400rpm. every seller faces and understands this so they also stock only those items which sell very fast. they all sell msi and gigabyte motherboards. even the distributor of ASRock doesn't have b450. that fellow asked me to get it from a seller in Gorakhpur who will sent it through courier. i told him i am not going to deal with some unknown seller specially when i am going to get it through courier.
i didn't press the seagate distributor as in case of any problem, it will not be in their stock and might be weeks after i get a replacement.
Rashi peripherals was good when i heard about them some 10-12 years back. i will ask them tomorrow or day after when i plan to go out and inquire the prices n availability in the local market. I think it is the same for seagete as well where customers are required to submit it to their service centre.
 
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