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General Purpose Computer Build - 30000 Approx.

vidhubhushan

Alakh Niranjan
1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run?
Ans: Heavy Web Browsing, MSOffice, music and movies, some programming language compilers & databases.
No Gaming.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: INR30000

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: NO.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Interested in Windows 7 Professional as I am using it at present but that won't be good now as it will not work in latest hardware & also soon EOS so only choice now is Windows 10 or Linux.

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: have a 3 years old WD Blue 2TB HDD but if something else needs to be added, please suggest.

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want.
Ans: i have a 7 year old dell 20 inch but better can be suggested.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: mouse is not required as having a new unused logitech b100. Any simple regular keyboard will be ok.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: hopefully 15-30 days.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: i have done it but this will be built by an assembler.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Lucknow. preferably offline, can buy online as well

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: programming language compilers & databases etc. will be used for learning purpose only (C++, Java, SQL, Oracle, Hadoop etc.)

It is expected to be used for some 2-4 years. an i5 laptop is expected to join it in 6-7 months.

I am also considering a Dell or HP PC. Few months back, someone offhand offered me a Dell i3 PC, 4GB, 1Tb with MS Office 2019 for approx. 35000. Main reasons for considering this are Software and onsite warranty. Some valuable input is expected in this regard.

Thanks!
 

nac

Aspiring Novelist
~34k | ~31k

Ryzen 2200G/3200G | Ryzen 2400G/3400G
Asrock B450M Pro4
Corsair Vegeance DDR4 8GB 3200MHZ
Antec BP450/Corsair VS450
Cabinet of your choice
Logitech KB
LG 21.5" IPS Monitor | Skip this for now
Kingston A400 / Adata SU650 or Crucial MX500 240GB/250GB

If you want monitor now, go with x200G CPU. But still it will overshoot your budget.
If you want monitor but within the budget, then you will have to compromise in one or more components.

PS: Board may need BIOS update if you opt for 3000 series CPU. Check when you buy.
 
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whitestar_999

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Onsite warranty is good for corporate users in offices but for homes/individuals,not so much. As for software you can just buy Office 365 6 devices(comes with 6 accounts each having its own separate 1TB onedrive space) 1 year license for ~3.3k(based on previous year sale) in upcoming amazon great shopping sale in Oct. Prefer Kingston A400 ssd over Adata SU650/WD Green.Spend 1k extra to get corsair CX450 psu which is much better than VS series by getting some cheap local cabinet for 500-600. You can ask mdcomputers to update bios of Asrock B450 Pro 4 for Ryzen 3200G(use both email as well as phone to confirm) but if mobo manufacturing date is june 2019 or later then it should have ryzen 3xxx compatible factory bios.
 
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

Alakh Niranjan
thanks a lot friends for the input.
i don't have much idea of AMD CPUs. So I am unable to compare these to their rquivalent Intel CPUs thereby finding it difficult to choose.
It will need around 8-9000 for Windows Home Retail or some OEM verion like this.
 

SaiyanGoku

kamehameha!!
thanks a lot friends for the input.
i don't have much idea of AMD CPUs. So I am unable to compare these to their rquivalent Intel CPUs thereby finding it difficult to choose.
It will need around 8-9000 for Windows Home Retail or some OEM verion like this.
Don't buy license, do not use cracks/activator, just download and install win 10 from microsoft and use it unactivated.

Edit: Never buy pre-built OEM PCs unless your organisation needs 100s of them.
 
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

Alakh Niranjan
Decided on
  • Ryzen 5 3400G as I will use it for at least 3 years or so.
  • Kingston SSDNow A400
  • corsair CX450
  • Corsair Vengeance 8GB
Motherboard - ASRock or Asus B450?
Cabinet - brand / model suggestions please. (considering top fan of CX450. never done it but i think it can be fixed upside down also)
I might add an internal Blu-Ray drive after some time. Will CX450 be able to handle a SSD, a 2TB WD Blue and this?
thanks.
 
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whitestar_999

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Go with asrock B450 Pro 4(or B450M pro 4,some say despite its microATX size,it has better memory compatibility compared to larger size ATX version.both cost almost same) or asus b450 tuf gaming pro. CX450 is more than enough for even any 6 core processor with 1660 graphics card.
 
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

Alakh Niranjan
Go with asrock B450 Pro 4(or B450M pro 4,some say despite its microATX size,it has better memory compatibility compared to larger size ATX version.both cost almost same) or asus b450 tuf gaming pro. CX450 is more than enough for even any 6 core processor with 1660 graphics card.

thanks dear for the response. i asked as i don't have any idea of ASRock and there is around only 1000 difference between it and Asus.

So it is Asrock B450M Pro 4.

on mdcomputers it is listed for 6,600 and it is listed for 12547 on Amazon India.
 
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

Alakh Niranjan
Now only cabinet selection is left. on mdcomputers i saw these -

ANTEC VSK 4000B (ATX) Mid Tower - 2250
ANTEC NX200 RGB (ATX) - 2400
CORSAIR Carbide Series 175R RGB - 3500
THERMALTAKE VERSA N21 (ATX) - 3400

any of these or something else? Which brand to prefer?

thanks.
 

whitestar_999

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Staff member
Corsair 175R is a good option.Btw psu fan is supposed to be downwards especially if there is intake for psu fan on the floor of cabinet.
 
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

Alakh Niranjan
thanks dear.

A Corsair reseller is offering corsair CX450 for 2800+18%GST. I will check other prices next week from local market & then online again before purchase.

Another Corsair reseller advised me to save money and get VX450, 3000mhz RAM and invest more in Samsung 860 m.2 250gb. he too suggested 175R.
 

whitestar_999

Super Moderator
Staff member
Another Corsair reseller advised me to save money and get VX450, 3000mhz RAM and invest more in Samsung 860 m.2 250gb. he too suggested 175R.
I think he meant VS450(as VX450 is more than 10 years old model) & the reason he suggested it is probably the same one why in Nehru Place Delhi shops VS series is available & not CXx5x series,because sellers earn more profit margin on VS series(which is btw much inferior to CXx5x series). Never listen to shopkeepers(at least not without doing your own proper research). Price difference between 3000 & 3200MHz ram is not much so why buy 3000MHz when 3200MHz perform better with ryzen(especially 3xxx series). Also don't buy m2 ssd because m2 ssd is basically a 2.5" sata ssd without outer cover & its only advantage is its small size form factor but then most mobos will disable 2 sata ports if you install a m2 sata ssd in 2nd m2 slot(1st m2 slot is almost always meant for NVMe & using it for sata is a waste of this port) so why not just buy a regular 2.5" sata ssd & avoid wastage of 1 sata port. Crucial MX500 250gb 2.5" ssd is available for ~3200 on onlyssd(ssd selling division of primeabgb) & is almost as good as samsung 860 evo.
 
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vidhubhushan

vidhubhushan

Alakh Niranjan
I think he meant VS450(as VX450 is more than 10 years old model) & the reason he suggested it is probably the same one why in Nehru Place Delhi shops VS series is available & not CXx5x series,because sellers earn more profit margin on VS series(which is btw much inferior to CXx5x series). Never listen to shopkeepers(at least not without doing your own proper research). Price difference between 3000 & 3200MHz ram is not much so why buy 3000MHz when 3200MHz perform better with ryzen(especially 3xxx series). Also don't buy m2 ssd because m2 ssd is basically a 2.5" sata ssd without outer cover & its only advantage is its small size form factor but then most mobos will disable 2 sata ports if you install a m2 sata ssd in 2nd m2 slot(1st m2 slot is almost always meant for NVMe & using it for sata is a waste of this port) so why not just buy a regular 2.5" sata ssd & avoid wastage of 1 sata port. Crucial MX500 250gb 2.5" ssd is available for ~3200 on onlyssd(ssd selling division of primeabgb) & is almost as good as samsung 860 evo.

this is why i asked here dear because i have experienced that trick of local shopkeepers. Considering my requirements, should i change to Crucial MX500 250gb 2.5 or continue with Kingston SSDNow A400?
thanks.
 
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