Gaming rig for 65k

[chetan1989]

1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
A: Gaming

2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
A: Yes

3. What is your MAX budget?
A: 65k

4. Planning to overclock?
A: No

5. Which OS are you planning to use?
A: Windows 7 64 bit

6. How much hard drive space is needed?
A: 1 TB

7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want? If you already want have one and want to use it, mention its resolution and size.
A: 1980 x 1020

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
A: 3

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
A: no

10. When are you planning to buy the system?
A: next month

11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
A: yes

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
A: speakers, keyboard, mouse, ups

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
A: pune, yes

14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
A: I came upon the following rig while searching
i5 2500k - 11650
P8P67 pro - 12000
Gtx570 - 20000
G-SKILL[ Trident ] PC3-12800 / DDR3 1600 Mhz/cl-8-8-8-24 (2Gx2) - 3000
Seasonic S12D 750 - 5500
Benq G2222HDL LED - 8850
NZXT Gamma - 2100
Seagate 1 TB 7200.12 - 2700
LG 22X Sata DVD - 850
I wont overclock but might add a card later for SLI

Total - approx 65000

Also is it possible to get these items in pune?
TIA

 

[Piyush]

the setup you mentioned is A rated
i dont think i can suggest anything better than that
and regarding availability, if you cant find these parts in pune, then you can order them online
better way........

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

first of all multi gpu setup requires a good spacious case.
i recommend a 6970 if going for a multi gpu setup.

Component | Make | Price Processor |Intel Core i5 2500k|11000
Motherboard |ASUS P8P67 PRO|12000
RAM |G.Skill Ripjaws F3-10666CL9S-4GBRL|2200
Graphic Card |MSI HD6970 2GB|20500
HDD |Seagate 500GB 7200.12|1700
DVD Writer |LG 22X SATA DVD|900
PSU |SeaSonic S12D 850|7200
Case |CM 690 II Advanced (Transparent Side Panel)|5500
Monitor |Benq G2220HD|7300
| Total |68300

 

[vickybat]

@ chetan1989

If you won't overclock, then why spend on a p67 board and k series processor?
So why pay extra?

Get a non k processor like i5 2500 or i7 2600 along with an h67 board within 6k. This way , you can bring the costs down as you won't be using the hardware in the way they are meant to be used i.e ix 2x00k + p67 board (meant for enthusiasts and overclockers).

The gtx 570 is more than enough for fullhd. Here i would like to suggest nvidia only because amd 69xx series is having a performance hit with the p67 platform even in single gpu setups. More so in multigpu setups. So stick with gtx 570 over a 6970. Check here for proof.

Check this thread as well.

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

^actually batman we need a nice board for sli or crossfire too.
especially since sli wont work on h67.

 

[chetan1989]

But will I be able to do SLI on a H67 mobo that's why I went for k series and p67? is it possible to do SLI on H67?

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

^NO.........!

 

[vickybat]

p67 + nf200 is the best option out there for multigpu setups.

 

[chetan1989]

@jashwanker so shud I go for gtx 570 against 6970 as told by vickybat?

 

[vickybat]

^^ I gave you the links. Using the 2nd slot i.e x8 or x4 is where the performance hit is noticiable.

Read and decide buddy.

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

@jashwanker so shud I go for gtx 570 against 6970 as told by vickybat?

Jaskanwar

and its 6950 vs 570 in single card mode.

and i am seeing x8 mode. as x4 cant be done in sli and of course you wont do it in single gpu setup.

stalker-
*www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-scaling-p67-chipset-gaming-performance,2887-8.html

crysis -
*www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-scaling-p67-chipset-gaming-performance,2887-5.html

almost same loss in scaling.

coming to others -

aliens vs predators -
*www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-scaling-p67-chipset-gaming-performance,2887-4.html

again almost same scaling.

just cause 2 -
*www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-scaling-p67-chipset-gaming-performance,2887-7.html

again almost same scaling

F1 2010 takes a hit.
*www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-scaling-p67-chipset-gaming-performance,2887-6.html

and i am seeing x8 mode. as x4 cant be done in sli and of course you wont do it in single gpu setup.

no worries

so i still recommend a 6970 as crossfire scaling is just too impressive this gen.

 

[chetan1989]

Thanks for replying jaskanwar sorry for the name
I ws thinking whether I should buy 6950 and then unlock it to 6970? How good is 6950 unlocked vs 6970? Are they exactly similar in performance? and are there any harmful effects of unlocking?
And one more thing, I thought instead of buying p67 + i5 2500k ican buy i500 + h67 and spend the left money to buy gtx 580 but then i wont be able to xfire two 6970s in future. How will be two 6970s in Xfire vs single 580?

 

[vickybat]

^^ Two 6970's are obviously faster than single gtx 580. You can sli two gtx 580's instead in the future.

Some members here have successfully unlocked their 6950 2gb. Its only possible if you buy the reference card and the one jaskanwar mentioned is a reference card.

If not into ocing, then you can definitely buy a non k cpu with h67 mobo.

 

[chetan1989]

How good is 6950 unlocked vs 6970?

And is there any chance of card getting kaput while unlocking? What if I am not successful in unlocking the card?

 

[Piyush]

How good is 6950 unlocked vs 6970?

And is there any chance of card getting kaput while unlocking? What if I am not successful in unlocking the card?

the card wont go kaput since the bios can be reverted back...it acts as a safety feature

 

[chetan1989]

Some more queries
1. I am still confused between 6950 unlocked vs 6970

2. Also what about this mobo msi p67a-gd55 (rs. 9500). I can spend the left money on a non reference factory overclocked 6970 or buy a good cpu cooler (for trying OCing in future)
TIA

 

[MegaMind]

Some more queries
1. I am still confused between 6950 unlocked vs 6970

2. Also what about this mobo msi p67a-gd55 (rs. 9500). I can spend the left money on a non reference factory overclocked 6970 or buy a good cpu cooler (for trying OCing in future)
TIA

1.Unlocked 6950 is no where close to 6970.

2.Msi p67a-gd55 is good too, Cpu cooler is not necessary for now since i5 2500k can reach 4.0GHz on stock cooler...

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

Some more queries
1. I am still confused between 6950 unlocked vs 6970

2. Also what about this mobo msi p67a-gd55 (rs. 9500). I can spend the left money on a non reference factory overclocked 6970 or buy a good cpu cooler (for trying OCing in future)
TIA

agreed unlocked 6950 with clocks at 6970 levels perform same as 6970.

though chances of unlock and stable oc on the msi 6950 2gb reference are high. your choice but i still feel 6970 will be ideal choice.

why that msi? asus is best price performance ratio.

remember - first concentrate on components that are expensive and cant be brought again and again.

about non reference factory oced, any you were able to find? is MSI 6970 Lightening available?

1.Unlocked 6950 is no where close to 6970.

2.Msi p67a-gd55 is good too, Cpu cooler is not necessary for now since i5 2500k can reach 4.0GHz on stock cooler...

wrong.

 

[vickybat]

agreed unlocked 6950 with clocks at 6970 levels perform same as 6970.

I guess everybody here is saying that unlocked 6950 does not perform close to a standard 6970. The performance is more or less the same as a standard 6950 after unlocking. Now i was looking at the specs of cayman pro and cayman xt i.e the 6950 and 6970 respectively. I came to know that the texture fill rate , pixel fillrate and memory bandwidth are higher in 6970 than a 6950. Now that is obvious that the xt has higher specs than the pro, mere unlocking of sp's does not take the 6950 to 6970's performance level.

See the specs for yourself:

Source

Let the actual users like rchi84 comment on this and actually tells us if they are getting a substantial performance increment after unlocking or not.

wrong.

Well its actually right. Cilus had overclocked his 955be to 3.6 and 3.7ghz on stock cooler without breaking a sweat. These sandybridge cpu's can touch 4ghz on air owing to their exceptionally lower tdp even than the lynnfields. So its possible but always a custom cooler like hyper 212 plus is recommended for overclockers as a bare minimum.

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

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by rchi84 -

Hi guys

Ran some benchmarks. Vantage for some reason, doesn't like the OC and actually gives my card a lower score lol.

For 3d Mark 11, on stock 6950 clocks, I get a score around 4700 on performance preset. The thing holding my scores down, i suspect is my i5 2400 CPU.

On 6970 clocks, my score improves to 5100.

The problem is that I am running on catalyst 11.3 which futuremark hasn't approved yet, so i only get text results online.

ran the crysis benchmark. settings were 1920x1080, 8xAA, DX 10.

2 years ago, my friend's pc died when we tried this

this time, on stock 6950 clocks, i was getting around 37 FPS. On 6970 clocks, I was getting around 42 FPS.

I wish i had the money to buy crysis 2, but DX9 only is a major no-no

so yeah, as weird as it sounds, i might actually be running into CPU bottlenecks or maybe my card doesn't perform all that spectacularly when OCd. I'm sticking with stock clocks for now.

pretty happy either way

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/graphic-cards/138854-amd-radeon-hd-6950-unlocked-2.html#post1375543

Well its actually right. Cilus had overclocked his 955be to 3.6 and 3.7ghz on stock cooler without breaking a sweat. These sandybridge cpu's can touch 4ghz on air owing to their exceptionally lower tdp even than the lynnfields. So its possible but always a custom cooler like hyper 212 plus is recommended for overclockers as a bare minimum.

i know of oc on sandybridge. i am talking of 6950 and 6970 performance. i bolded it