Gaming PC (Ryzen) Specs Advice Needed

[bssunilreddy]

Budget -82.2K

AMD Ryzen R5 1600X -19000,
Asus Prime B350 Plus -8000,
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 3000Mhz -5000,
Seasonic S12II 520w -5500,
Corsair SPEC ALPHA Cabinet -5500,
EVGA GTX1060 6GB -19200,
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD -7500,
WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,
LG 22MP68VQ-P 22" LED IPS -9000.
TOTAL -82,200.

Amazon.in: Buy EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING ACX 2.0 Single Fan 6GB GDDR5 DX12 OSD Support PXOC Only 6.8 Inches Graphics Card 06G-P4-6161-KR 6 GB Online at Low Prices in India | EVGA Reviews & Rating

 

[SaiyanGoku]

Budget -82.2K

AMD Ryzen R5 1600X -19000,
Asus Prime B350 Plus -8000,
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 3000Mhz -5000,
Seasonic S12II 520w -5500,
Corsair SPEC ALPHA Cabinet -5500,
EVGA GTX1060 6GB -19200,
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD -7500,
WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,
LG 22MP68VQ-P 22" LED IPS -9000.
TOTAL -82,200.

Amazon.in: Buy EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING ACX 2.0 Single Fan 6GB GDDR5 DX12 OSD Support PXOC Only 6.8 Inches Graphics Card 06G-P4-6161-KR 6 GB Online at Low Prices in India | EVGA Reviews & Rating

Seriously, stop making new config everytime some change happens.

1500x would be more than enough for OP.

It is a bad time to get a GPU. GTX 1080 was dropped from 65k to 50k. Vega might launch in next few months.

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[SaiyanGoku]

Does it matter? you got the point right?

OCD made me reply.
Some people mean RX480 but comment GTX480.
Still, don't name the parts as you like.

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[Randy_Marsh]

OCD made me reply.
Some people mean RX480 but comment GTX480.
Still, don't name the parts as you like.

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lol, GTX480 or RX480 scenario is totally different than GTX 1060 or 1060 GTX.
GokuSaiyan is still better than SaiyanFrieza!

 

[billubakra]

[MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] [MENTION=308059]gta5[/MENTION] [MENTION=111848]saikiasunny[/MENTION] [MENTION=105611]bssunilreddy[/MENTION] [MENTION=273753]Vineet Sharma[/MENTION]

Thanks a lot for your replies guys. I was about to go for the rig, I was confused about Ryzen but now I presume I will have to wait for Vega and try to increase my budget. Couldn't agree more on the points especially regarding vr raised by [MENTION=308059]gta5[/MENTION] but dear if I get a mid range gpu now don't you think it will be of no use say after a year considering the type of games that are coming in the market?

Few last queries-
1. Will the prices of hardware increase after GST is implemented from 1st July?
2. Any concrete date for Vega's launch?
3. Ryzen 7 is a big no now, thanks to you all. Still confused among 1400(why is no one mentioning this?)-1500x-1600-1600x? Which one should I finalize?
4. I got the following quotes from the market-
Nvidia 1080 8gb amp- 56500/- (The shopkeeper said that there isn't much difference between 1060 and 1080 so why is 1080 double the price of 1060?)
MSI x370 gaming- 16500
Seasonic 520w- 6500
R1500- 14500
R 1700- 25200
R 1700x- 39200
8gb corsair/vakil(what is this vakil)- 4600
5. [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] If I throw away the dvd drive then how will I install GTA 5? Will the old drive work in the new system?
6. Please guide about Win 10. Genuine or from other sources?

[MENTION=105611]bssunilreddy[/MENTION]
You have posted this link of 1060 gpu-
Amazon.in: Buy EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING ACX 2.0 Single Fan 6GB GDDR5 DX12 OSD Support PXOC Only 6.8 Inches Graphics Card 06G-P4-6161-KR 6 GB Online at Low Prices in India | EVGA Reviews & Rating

Is EVGA a good company?

 

[Randy_Marsh]

Budget -82.2K

AMD Ryzen R5 1600X -19000,
Asus Prime B350 Plus -8000,
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 3000Mhz -5000,
Seasonic S12II 520w -5500,
Corsair SPEC ALPHA Cabinet -5500,
EVGA GTX1060 6GB -19200,
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD -7500,
WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,
LG 22MP68VQ-P 22" LED IPS -9000.
TOTAL -82,200.

Amazon.in: Buy EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING ACX 2.0 Single Fan 6GB GDDR5 DX12 OSD Support PXOC Only 6.8 Inches Graphics Card 06G-P4-6161-KR 6 GB Online at Low Prices in India | EVGA Reviews & Rating

lol, this time you didn't include a cooler and recommended 1600x which doesn't come with any cooler

 

[billubakra]

One complaint among a subset of reviewers, however, was that Ryzen processors fell behind their Intel counterparts when running older games, or running newer games at mainstream resolutions such as 720p or 1080p.[20] AMD acknowledged the gaming performance deficit at low resolutions during a Reddit AMA, where they explained that updates and patches were in the works.[21] A subsequent update to Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation increased frame rates 17−31% on Ryzen systems.[22]

It has been suggested that low core utilization resulted in Ryzen being underutilized, therefore reflecting lower than expected scores, especially when coupled with the fact that Zen's slightly lower IPC relies on full core utilization.[23][24][25] However, AMD and others have argued thread scheduling is not the fundamental issue to Windows 10 performance.[26][27] There were also issues with AM4 motherboards and their BIOS, which was resulting in many Ryzen chips being underclocked, partially shut off, or generally hindered by BIOS bugs.

Source-
Ryzen - Wikipedi

 

[SaiyanGoku]

@SaiyanGoku @gta5 @saikiasunny @bssunilreddy @Vineet Sharma

Thanks a lot for your replies guys. I was about to go for the rig, I was confused about Ryzen but now I presume I will have to wait for Vega and try to increase my budget. Couldn't agree more on the points especially regarding vr raised by @gta5 but dear if I get a mid range gpu now don't you think it will be of no use say after a year considering the type of games that are coming in the market?

Few last queries-
1. Will the prices of hardware increase after GST is implemented from 1st July?
2. Any concrete date for Vega's launch?
3. Ryzen 7 is a big no now, thanks to you all. Still confused among 1400(why is no one mentioning this?)-1500x-1600-1600x? Which one should I finalize?
4. I got the following quotes from the market-
Nvidia 1080 8gb amp- 56500/- (The shopkeeper said that there isn't much difference between 1060 and 1080 so why is 1080 double the price of 1060?)
MSI x370 gaming- 16500
Seasonic 520w- 6500
R1500- 14500
R 1700- 25200
R 1700x- 39200
8gb corsair/vakil(what is this vakil)- 4600
5. @SaiyanGoku If I throw away the dvd drive then how will I install GTA 5? Will the old drive work in the new system?
6. Please guide about Win 10. Genuine or from other sources?

@bssunilreddy
You have posted this link of 1060 gpu-
Amazon.in: Buy EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING ACX 2.0 Single Fan 6GB GDDR5 DX12 OSD Support PXOC Only 6.8 Inches Graphics Card 06G-P4-6161-KR 6 GB Online at Low Prices in India | EVGA Reviews & Rating

Is EVGA a good company?

First of all, give that shopkeeper a high five
ON THE FACE
WITH A BAT
WRAPPED WITH BARBED WIRE!

Query answers:

1. Might increase
2. After June maybe
3. 1500x hit the sweet spot for price/performance ratio.

Spoiler

[YOUTUBE]mbK0n5FjvhI [/YOUTUBE]

4. Read the first 4 lines again.
1060 is for 1080p ultra gaming. 1080 is for VR and 4k ultra gaming.
vakil? Never heard of. Don't even consider it.

5. You have internet?
Yes
Install Steam
Buy GTA-V from there during sales, humble bundle, bundle stars or where it is cheap except G2A (Physical copy has RGSC key which won't activate on steam. Correct me if I'm wrong.)

6. Kinguin has genuine (?) windows keys available for cheap. Buy from there.

7. EVGA is good. Except they don't have official presence in India. So to get warranty, you have to send the parts to USA since the one in the link is imported.

 

[Randy_Marsh]

[MENTION=154704]billubakra[/MENTION]

1. I don't think GST going to impact much, but don't know. It can be neglected I guess.
2. Not yet. Q2 is the time period that we know of, that's all.
3. 1400 is also good but its 4 core/8 thread processor. 1600/1600x are 6 core/12 thread processors which are better options in terms of future proofing and fits right into your budget. If I were you, I would have chose r5 1600 because it comes with good air cooler and so a very nice deal at approx. 17k
4. Please please never trust the sellers in markets just like that. Check reviews/benchmarks and then decide. I often quarrel with sellers in nehru place, delhi because they talk $hit, just to sell off what's there in stock. 1080 is far superior in performance than 1060, and it's truly meant to game at high/ultra settings on 1440p/4k resolution, whereas 1060 is very good performer at 1080p resolution.
And corsair *which* RAM? Make sure you get the vengeance LPX 3000MHz only, skip vakil or judge Rams
5. You want to use the drive, keep it. what [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] meant was dvd's are outdated now and almost nobody uses those anymore. Still you can always use your old drive with any computer, just make sure that the cabinet you purchase have the bay to install dvd drive (for ex. corsair SPEC Alpha doesn't have dvd drive bay)
6. Totally depends on you, or your resourceful friends around you It doesn't matter if you do it right. I hope you got my point.

Trust me, just wait for Vega to launch. It would definitely be worth it.

 

[saikiasunny]

So to confuse you even further, RX 580 launched which is better than both GTX 1060 and RX 480 and that too for sure.

So you have to options now. Start saving for Vega and buy it when it launches and second, get a RX 580 and be happy with it for a while.

My vote goes to an R5 1600 plus Vega configuration.

Some 2 aana here-

Get a better monitor first

And just stick to B350 chipset.

Get help before purchasing. Don't trust the seller.

 

[gta5]

See IMO it would be better if you buy RX 480/Rx 580 ( whichever is better as per price in india) and that LG Freesync monitor

So this GPU would be able to hold you for around 2 years.. Then when you buy VR headset after 2 years ,sell this GPU then and then buy high end card with that saved up money..

THe High end GPU's are priced at a premium .. they are bad value for money if you don't use that performance "NOW" .. They drop fast in price..

For 1080p It is much better that you buy a low-mid range card every 2-3 years than buy a high end card and hold on to it for 5 years.. you will also get much better software support for new low-mid range cards than you would get for a 3-4 year old high end card... + you also get new features and new technology in new mid range cards and lower power consumption and longer warranty ...

CPU you can buy a good cpu once and hold on to it for long time ..

Buy Ryzen 1600 and overclock it .. this is the sweet spot for price /performance..

 

[billubakra]

Thanks again for replying Dear Brothers [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] [MENTION=308059]gta5[/MENTION] [MENTION=111848]saikiasunny[/MENTION] [MENTION=273753]Vineet Sharma[/MENTION]

I thought I will be playing Mafia 3 this weekend but pity me I will have to delay it for Vega. Previously I waited for Ryzen for all these months. I will try to increase my budget so that I am able to get a new monitor too. If you guys find any good online deal for Corsair Ram, Monitor, UPS, Cabinet in the meantime then please let me know.

Idk about bundle stuff in steam but for the GTA V disc's which I got, the code needs to be activated post installation via discs.

Kiguin is dealing in $$'s. Any site for OS's which is dealing in INR? An offtopic question, my friend lost his laptop with Win 10. Is there a way to let MS know about the same so that they can block or reset that version of Windows? He has the key of the same and wants to activate the same on a different machine which will obviously have a different motherboard.

Lastly except [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] everyone is saying to go for R1600. Goku ji, if I am may ask, is R1500x better than 1600?
Check this out-
AMD's RX 580 reviewed: AMD takes the fight to the GTX 1060, with mixed results - ExtremeTec

 

[saikiasunny]

Thanks again for replying Dear Brothers [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] [MENTION=308059]gta5[/MENTION] [MENTION=111848]saikiasunny[/MENTION] [MENTION=273753]Vineet Sharma[/MENTION]

I thought I will be playing Mafia 3 this weekend but pity me I will have to delay it for Vega. Previously I waited for Ryzen for all these months. I will try to increase my budget so that I am able to get a new monitor too. If you guys find any good online deal for Corsair Ram, Monitor, UPS, Cabinet in the meantime then please let me know.

Idk about bundle stuff in steam but for the GTA V disc's which I got, the code needs to be activated post installation via discs.

Kiguin is dealing in $$'s. Any site for OS's which is dealing in INR? An offtopic question, my friend lost his laptop with Win 10. Is there a way to let MS know about the same so that they can block or reset that version of Windows? He has the key of the same and wants to activate the same on a different machine which will obviously have a different motherboard.

Lastly except [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] everyone is saying to go for R1600. Goku ji, if I am may ask, is R1500x better than 1600?
Check this out-
AMD's RX 580 reviewed: AMD takes the fight to the GTX 1060, with mixed results - ExtremeTec

If you have a graphics card, you can always go for the CPU now and upgrade the GPU at a later date.

The 1500X overclocked will give you almost the same results as a stock 1600. Which is okay. Both of this processors will give you the performance boost that you need. You won't be disappointed with any of the options.

The RX 580 is just a slightly faster RX 480. If you want to wait for VEGA, then no need to look for it.

I have no idea of the Windows part. Sorry.

 

[SaiyanGoku]

Idk about bundle stuff in steam but for the GTA V disc's which I got, the code needs to be activated post installation via discs.

Kiguin is dealing in $$'s. Any site for OS's which is dealing in INR? An offtopic question, my friend lost his laptop with Win 10. Is there a way to let MS know about the same so that they can block or reset that version of Windows? He has the key of the same and wants to activate the same on a different machine which will obviously have a different motherboard.

Lastly except @SaiyanGoku everyone is saying to go for R1600. Goku ji, if I am may ask, is R1500x better than 1600?
Check this out-
AMD's RX 580 reviewed: AMD takes the fight to the GTX 1060, with mixed results - ExtremeTec

Why would you buy physical disks when it limits you from using the key on steam?

You'll have to download most of the game eventually since disks these days don't have complete game.

Let me know when you find a site where genuine windows is 40$ or under (less than Rs 2500)

You want to get GTX 1080 in 80k and then want a R5 1600?

R5 1600 is 6C12T proccy and so, is obviously better and costlier than R5 1500x which is 4C8T.

If you can increase budget, get the R5 1600.

 

[bssunilreddy]

PM invader of erodov forum for Windows 10 Pro Retail Key for 2k

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[Randy_Marsh]

[MENTION=154704]billubakra[/MENTION]

1. Get R5 1600, not 1500x. R51600 is 6 core/12 threads and 1500x is 4 core/8 threads. For long run, R5 1600 will help.
2. Mafia 3 isn't a very good game. I completed it just for the sake of my obsession of ending games which I start playing. So no need to hurry
3. Keep your DVD drive, don't throw it away. If you already have the discs of GTA V lying around, good, use it. That would install Rockstar games social club and your game will run from there. It won't use steam at all. Otherwise if you are going to buy GTA V, get it from steam because the game can be bought as cheap as 1.3k during discount periods.

 

[billubakra]

Thanks again for replying Dear Brothers [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] [MENTION=105611]bssunilreddy[/MENTION] [MENTION=111848]saikiasunny[/MENTION] [MENTION=273753]Vineet Sharma[/MENTION]

Goku Ji,
Why would you buy physical disks when it limits you from using the key on steam?
Because I got it for Rs. 1500/-

You'll have to download most of the game eventually since disks these days don't have complete game.
Agree.

Let me know when you find a site where genuine windows is 40$ or under (less than Rs 2500)
Reddy ji has provided with details of a person who sells them for Rs. 2000.

You want to get GTX 1080 in 80k and then want a R5 1600?
No, I was hoping for 1060. Anyways forget it, Its 1600 and Vega now.

R5 1600 is 6C12T proccy and so, is obviously better and costlier than R5 1500x which is 4C8T.
If you can increase budget, get the R5 1600.
Sure thing my dear.

Last 2 queries-
- My friend lost his laptop with Win 10. Is there a way to let MS know about the same so that they can block or reset that version of Windows? He has the key of the same and wants to activate the same on a different machine which will obviously have a different motherboard.

- Any comments about this-
AMD's RX 580 reviewed: AMD takes the fight to the GTX 1060, with mixed results - ExtremeTec

- - - Updated - - -

P.S. I read in the Ryzen thread here on Digit that prices of Intel's processors will drop once Ryzen is released. Not much difference in price as per the market. The same thing is being said about Vega. As per the info that I got from the market Intel and other companies don't give a sh*t about AMD.

 

[saikiasunny]

Thanks again for replying Dear Brothers [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] [MENTION=105611]bssunilreddy[/MENTION] [MENTION=111848]saikiasunny[/MENTION] [MENTION=273753]Vineet Sharma[/MENTION]

- Any comments about this-
AMD's RX 580 reviewed: AMD takes the fight to the GTX 1060, with mixed results - ExtremeTec

- - - Updated - - -

P.S. I read in the Ryzen thread here on Digit that prices of Intel's processors will drop once Ryzen is released. Not much difference in price as per the market. The same thing is being said about Vega. As per the info that I got from the market Intel and other companies don't give a sh*t about AMD.

The RX 580 is just a refreshed RX 480. It is better than both the RX 480 and GTX 1060 even if it does not beat a 1060 in every single game.

Prices in India don't change even after years so don't bother about them. Just get the latest and greatest. As for the shopkeepers, don't listen to them.

 

[Stormbringer]

One thing to keep in mind [MENTION=154704]billubakra[/MENTION] is that Ryzen processors don't have integrated graphics. So you need an external graphics card to run your system. So buy the CPU and rest of the components along with the Vega GPU whenever it is launched.

 

[gta5]

P.S. I read in the Ryzen thread here on Digit that prices of Intel's processors will drop once Ryzen is released. Not much difference in price as per the market. The same thing is being said about Vega. As per the info that I got from the market Intel and other companies don't give a sh*t about AMD.

Intel will not drop prices too much.. Instead They will offer more threads/cores for the same prices .. Ryzen is putting a lot of pressure on them

In response , Intel will now launch their 8th generation i5/i7 Unlocked K series processors early in August 2017 .. i7 will be 6C/12 Thread processor..

Dropping price is really the last resort for a company and a difficult decision ..

GPU situation is totally uncertain at this point..

Unless VEGA is a "smashing" success , Nvidia isn't going to do anything... there are rumours that they are going to launch their 20 series GPU in Q3 , but take it with a big grain of salt for now.. it looks very improbable at this point