Future Upgrade Query

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you could consider fx-8350

 

[harshilsharma63]

For now. Since next-gen games are seemingly utilizing ,multiple cores/hyper-threading more, it might be possible that the i7 will perform better in more games. I can't know for sure, but I want to be on the safe side. I know it's a gamble, and an expensive one at that, but I would not be upgrading my CPU for 4-5 years.

I would rather go for i7 4770 and an H87 board and invest remaining cash in GPU or get i5 4570k and Asus Grphon.

 

[Xai]

I would rather go for i7 4770 and an H87 board and invest remaining cash in GPU or get i5 4570k and Asus Grphon.

I was initially inclined towards the i5-K. With the advice from forum members, I leaned more towards Xeon, due to HT.

In my opinion, i7 4770/ Xeon E3 1245 V3 setup will be a good bargain - saves money and has HT, and same performance as stock i5.

But then I realized that I have enough saved up to afford i7 4770K setup, and since I will not upgrade for at least 4-5 years, this would keep me safe and comfy. I figure, if my dual core Phenom II 550 BE can last 4 years, i7 -K will probably last more and perform better.

I am not an experienced overclocker - I only OCed my Phenom II X2 550 BE to about 3.4 (can only manage 3.2 now). So I am not even sure if I can fully utilize a -K series CPU, but it would be something to learn at least.

My office bonuses come out in March, so I was planning to buy R9 280X/290 with that.

 

[topgear]

just make sure you get a bad ass pricey cpu cooler [ preferably liquid based ] for ocing i7 4770k and a good motherboard if possible from Asus ROG series.

 

[Xai]

I am keeping R9 290 central to the upgrade. First I will ensure that I can buy 290, and then depending on the remaining funds, I will either go for i7 4770K, or Xeon E3 1245 V3.

Will TX650 suffice for i7 overclocking and 290?

Do I still need an aftermarket cooler (CM Hyper 212 Evo) if I don't OC (Xeon build)?

 

[rijinpk1]

I am keeping R9 290 central to the upgrade. First I will ensure that I can buy 290, and then depending on the remaining funds, I will either go for i7 4770K, or Xeon E3 1245 V3.

Will TX650 suffice for i7 overclocking and 290?

better get a 750watts unit.

 

[ASHISH65]

I am keeping R9 290 central to the upgrade. First I will ensure that I can buy 290, and then depending on the remaining funds, I will either go for i7 4770K, or Xeon E3 1245 V3.

Will TX650 suffice for i7 overclocking and 290?

Do I still need an aftermarket cooler (CM Hyper 212 Evo) if I don't OC (Xeon build)?

For R9 290 ,you need atleast 750w

 

[rijinpk1]

if you dont overclock, get either hyper tx3 evo or hyper 101 evo. no need of 212 evo. or you can consider antec a40. but i dont know how better it is compared to hyper tx3 evo.

 

[ASHISH65]

Get Hyper 101 with eyes closed for xeon, it performs almost same as Tx3 at less price

 

[Xai]

For R9 290 ,you need atleast 750w

Ouch. That's an expense I did not foresee. This definitely shifts the scales more towards the cheaper Xeon build.

Assuming Corsair TX series have Power Factor of 0.8, then my APC 1100 VA should be able to handle even a TX 850, right?

 

[harshilsharma63]

Ouch. That's an expense I did not foresee. This definitely shifts the scales more towards the cheaper Xeon build.

Assuming Corsair TX series have Power Factor of 0.8, then my APC 1100 VA should be able to handle even a TX 850, right?

Which model do you have. VA is NOT equal to Watt. If you happen to have BX1100CI, you are limited to 660 W. Check APC's website for exact max. power output in Watts.

 

[rijinpk1]

Ouch. That's an expense I did not foresee. This definitely shifts the scales more towards the cheaper Xeon build.

Assuming Corsair TX series have Power Factor of 0.8, then my APC 1100 VA should be able to handle even a TX 850, right?

Tx series psu is having power factor of more than 0.9 at most(all) the loads. also the apc ups which we usually use have a power factor of 0.6 and hence a 1100va ups can provide 1100X0.6= 660watts of power. if you get a psu of greater wattage ,say tx 850, does not mean that it consumes 850 watts all the time.

 

[Xai]

Tx series psu is having power factor of more than 0.9 at most(all) the loads. also the apc ups which we usually use have a power factor of 0.6 and hence a 1100va ups can provide 1100X0.6= 660watts of power. if you get a psu of greater wattage ,say tx 850, does not mean that it consumes 850 watts all the time.

But what happens when the system is at load? Suppose R9 290 is at full load, will 1100VA ups be able to provide sufficient power to TX750/TX850 psu?

 

[rijinpk1]

But what happens when the system is at load? Suppose R9 290 is at full load, will 1100VA ups be able to provide sufficient power to TX750/TX850 psu?

sure.. it can

 

[Xai]

Which model do you have. VA is NOT equal to Watt. If you happen to have BX1100CI, you are limited to 660 W. Check APC's website for exact max. power output in Watts.

Model Number is BR1100CI-IN, and as pointed out by rijinpk1, output power capacity is 660W.

Is Corsair TX 750 enough to power a i7 + R9 290 setup, or should I get TX 850?

 

[rijinpk1]

Model Number is BR1100CI-IN, and as pointed out by rijinpk1, output power capacity is 660W.

Is Corsair TX 750 enough to power a i7 + R9 290 setup, or should I get TX 850?

if you use a single 290 only, tx 750 is sufficient(keeping overclocking in mind). you can also consider seasonic m12ii 750 are sufficient too. if you want to crossfire later, get the 850W unit.

 

[Xai]

if you use a single 290 only, tx 750 is sufficient(keeping overclocking in mind). you can also consider seasonic m12ii 750 are sufficient too. if you want to crossfire later, get the 850W unit.

Cool. Going to check out the street prices this Saturday.

 

[harshilsharma63]

Model Number is BR1100CI-IN, and as pointed out by rijinpk1, output power capacity is 660W.

Is Corsair TX 750 enough to power a i7 + R9 290 setup, or should I get TX 850?

> Yeah, that UPS might not be able to provide enough power when your system is at load.

> TX 750 is perfectly enough. Use this online tool: eXtreme Power Supply Calculator

 

[Xai]

> Yeah, that UPS might not be able to provide enough power when your system is at load.

> TX 750 is perfectly enough. Use this online tool: eXtreme Power Supply Calculator

The tool showed recommended PSU Wattage as 538W, with following config:

1 CPU = i7 4770, CPU Utlization = 100%, 4 sticks DDR3 RAM, AMD R9 290, 3 Regular Sata HDD, 1 Flash SSD, 4 USB Devices, 4 120mm fans, 100% system load.

Now, if I understand this right, then at load, system will consume approx 540W. Input from APC BR1100CI-IN is 660W, which should be just marginally enough, considering some power will be lost during conversion from input to output.

Is that correct?

 

[rijinpk1]

The tool showed recommended PSU Wattage as 538W, with following config:

1 CPU = i7 4770, CPU Utlization = 100%, 4 sticks DDR3 RAM, AMD R9 290, 3 Regular Sata HDD, 1 Flash SSD, 4 USB Devices, 4 120mm fans, 100% system load.

Now, if I understand this right, then at load, system will consume approx 540W. Input from APC BR1100CI-IN is 660W, which should be just marginally enough, considering some power will be lost during conversion from input to output.

Is that correct?

actually, the ups kicks in when the electricity is cut off. else the power from the mains are just balanced and given to the psu. so even if your pc takes 800W load,ups is not gonna interrupt it until electricity gets cut off. correct me if i am wrong