Ford Foundation and its alleged CIA connections

[gemini90]

Indian Christians trapped in the politics of Ghar Wapsi? - Bharat Niti

The psychology of the Church is religiously and politically motivating. So they wanted a halo of martyrdom to all, because martyrs and saints are fuel material for the monstrous engines of the church (like jihadis for Islam) without which it cannot sustain.

So it is necessary to quote Dr S Radhakrishnan, our 2nd president. “The intolerance of narrow monotheism is written in letters of blood across the history of mankind from the time when first the tribes of Israel burst into the land of Canaan. The worshippers of the one Jealous God are egged on to aggressive wars against people of alien cults. They invoke Divine Sanction for the cruelties inflicted on the conquered. The spirit of old Israel is inherited by Christianity and Islam. Wars of Religion which are the outcome of fanaticism that prompts and justifies the extermination of aliens of different creeds are particularly unknown in Hindu India.” (The Hindu View of Life, 1927, Oxford University, p 55).

Before winding, let me quote Swapan Dasgupta, a senior journalist: who, referring to a large demonstration of Christians just days ahead of Delhi assembly polls and discussed how it was a signal for all to vote against the BJP, wrote: “Whatever the real motivations of the clergy of various Christian denominations, there is no doubt that it has succeeded in putting Christians at the centre of a previously non-existent political divide. …… These are just the opening shots of a political battle, using Christians as a human shield.” (Deccan Chronicle, April 3, 2015).

--> About that 'Use of religion for political power' thing i mentioned.

 

[Anorion]

well, at least what is wrong with christian yoga, maybe we can turn it around to our advantage right?

 

[gemini90]

How do you propose we do it?

 

[Anorion]

Tradition. Be tolerant.

 

[vkl]

Ford provided money to finance frauds like Teesta Setalvad.
Financing people who can go on for strike...Medha Patkar types come to mind..delayed SarDar Sarovar Dam causing loses.These types generally would try to stop power plants and other areas where country is self-dependant.They have funded,created strikes for stopping coal based thermal plants, hydel plants,nuclear plant.
Could certainly would have caused for more troubles and dependannce.Once in a while they will take up something good just to show that they are on a "good" path.Political activism from these organizations should be checked.While UPA govt. gave them a free hand to do whatever they wanted..this Govt. seems lot better in those regard.
Greenpeace: Brewing trouble for Indian tea - Oneindia

 

[beingGamer]

Ford provided money to finance frauds like Teesta Setalvad.
Financing people who can go on for strike...Medha Patkar types come to mind..delayed SarDar Sarovar Dam causing loses.These types generally would try to stop power plants and other areas where country is self-dependant.They have funded,created strikes for stopping coal based thermal plants, hydel plants,nuclear plant.
Could certainly would have caused for more troubles and dependannce.Once in a while they will take up something good just to show that they are on a "good" path.Political activism from these organizations should be checked.While UPA govt. gave them a free hand to do whatever they wanted..this Govt. seems lot better in those regard.
Greenpeace: Brewing trouble for Indian tea - Oneindia

AAP party is one of them.
also recent news was about Anna Hazare is getting funded by the same.

 

[GhorMaanas]

Anna Hazare being funded by Ford or such pets seems very doubtful to me. his case seems to me a reformer now turning senile and surrounded by pretentious 'advisers' with either not the best of intentions or info, or both.

this nation & civilisation has (inculcated) the criminally blunderous tradition/pattern of being disastrously ultra-tolerant & permissive with least regard for the collective whole self, and unassuming in identifying its well-wishers from its enemies, from the savages from the mid-east, to the masquerader marauder robert clive (welcomed by lakhs of people showering rose petals after his deceptive 'victory'), and the saga continues callously yet wilfully. all the turmoil, chaos, running-around begins and ensues, to put it in the american lingo, after the sh** starts hitting the fan, or aptly, well after it has hit it.

 

[Renny]

All these foreign funds are diverted towards anti-development causes and communists. Maybe a part of it also goes into the pockets of the print and television MSM?

Enough of being tolerant.

 

[GhorMaanas]

....Maybe a part of it also goes into the pockets of the print and television MSM?....

wouldn't be a surprise if it comes to fore that some of the media houses too get their 'cuts'. of the about 11-12k crores of foreign funds received by nearly 20L NGOs in the country, only 2% of them file their annual returns. why won't MHA's eyebrows be raised? also, remember the case of financial irregularities and misappropriation of funds or something like that found in NDTV's books some years back? undiTV should have been nailed then & there! though don't know what came of it.

 

[snap]

This thread feels like a conspiracy nutjob gathering

 

[GhorMaanas]

the warmth of cosiness & comfort in the 'aal is well' brand of quilt can certainly induce such a perception.

 

[gemini90]

Both German and US ambassadors are interfering in matters they have no locus standi. They represent the interests of their gov. alone and have no stake in NGO issue unless the latter indeed are the non official arms of their gov's. Sponsoring NGOs gives the western countries vast infrastructure into the country to overlay any kind of mischievous acts without putting the foot in the country.

Anti-NGO action could have "chilling effect" on civil society: US Ambassador - The Hindu

German Ambassador to India Urges Support of International NGOs


The global narrative is clear - Religious conversion is not a bad thing. It is an expression of the freedoms we earned by being part of a democracy. Anyone who blocks religious conversion is undemocratic.

The global narrative has to change to - Religious conversion destroys cultures and diversity. It is cultural rape. Hinduism et. al. are the real minority religions in the world and they are endangered by a rampant virus. It is our duty as the human race to preserve these religions.

Until the latter is the globally acceptable narrative, no one can step up and utter a word about conversion.

But as it goes, from wiki

Article 7 of a 1994 draft of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples uses the phrase "cultural genocide" but does not define what it means.[8] The complete article reads as follows:

Indigenous peoples have the collective and individual right not to be subjected to ethnocide and cultural genocide, including prevention of and redress for:
(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;
(b) Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resources;
(c) Any form of population transfer which has the aim or effect of violating or undermining any of their rights;
(d) Any form of assimilation or integration by other cultures or ways of life imposed on them by legislative, administrative or other measures;
(e) Any form of propaganda directed against them.
This declaration only appeared in a draft. The United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples was adopted by the United Nations General Assembly during its 62nd session at UN Headquarters in New York City on 13 September 2007, but only mentions "genocide", not "cultural genocide", although the article is otherwise unchanged.

Cultural genocide has not been accepted as a term by UNO due to pressure of western countries. The same is the case in form of ICC -International Criminal Court which is not part of UN unlike International Court of Justice. Nor is it similar to Interpol in coverage.

The ICC has the jurisdiction to prosecute individuals for the international crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes. The ICC is intended to complement existing national judicial systems and it may therefore only exercise its jurisdiction when certain conditions are met, such as when national courts are unwilling or unable to prosecute criminals or when the United Nations Security Council or individual states refer investigations to the Court.

That's the story on the surface. The ICC is really meant to serve one primary purpose: circumvent African and Asian efforts to seek restitution for colonial plunder. By controlling the arms of prosecution, the Europeans ensure they don't face the consequences of their actions. Asians did not sign the treaty but Africans fell for it.

 

[GhorMaanas]

anyone seeing this/such a mail in circulation? @gemini90, @beingGamer, @vkl?

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[beingGamer]

anyone seeing this/such a mail in circulation? @gemini90, @beingGamer, @vkl?

That looks clearly as a scam mail to receive donations in the name of helping crisis struck people.
We will never know where that money went

 

[GhorMaanas]

the donation-pages look genuine; the parent-site too has the same pic and links to the same pages. the purpose, not so.

 

[Ironman]

We will never know where that money went

Do We know where out taxes go to ? Swiss bank or Somewhere else

Do we know where the money we donate to the state government for NEPAL or some other extreme situation actually reaches there or not ?

 

[gemini90]

Ford Foundation an entity outside law

Ford Foundation an entity outside law: Officials

Despite the fact that no papers appear to have been submitted to the government to ensure that it was an entity functioning as per the domestic laws in India, the Ford Foundation opened a bank account in India, at first with CitiBank and subsequently with American Express, before moving back to Citi 15 years ago. As Know Your Customer (KYC) forms were not filled in, some officials claim that these bank accounts are legally untenable, and that to date, documentation needed as per law to open a bank account in India has not been furnished by the Foundation to any authority. Interestingly, Raghuram Rajan, who as RBI Governor has placed curbs after curbs on the smooth operation in financial matters of Indian entities, does not seem to have reacted or even noticed such apparent disregard of Indian laws by the Foundation, which has, according to high officials, set up its Delhi office on land taken at a token cost from the government, again on the basis of records which seem non-existent.

When Home Minister Rajnath Singh asked the MHA to raise such matters with the Foundation, the reply came not from itself, but from a US Department of State spokesperson, as well as US envoy to India, Richard Verma, both of whom strongly condemned Government of India for its effrontery in seeking to enforce the provisions of law on an entity which acts as though it is an independent entity subject to its own laws, rather than an institution needing to respect local laws and regulations. Albeit those which no government except the present has enforced, from 1952, the year in which "Chacha" Nehru acted as a benevolent uncle by, in practice, waiving any need for the Ford Foundation to follow Indian law. The US State Department also protested in very minatory terms about the MHA's recent cancellation of the FCRA licences of 9,000 NGOs, who have not filed returns for five consecutive years or more, raising doubts as to its real intentions in the context of developments in Eastern Europe, North Africa and West Asia, all locations where NGOs backed by Washington have been active in replacing the ballot with the street as the appropriate forum for regime change. In each such intervention, chaos has resulted.

ask FF and US SD replies. Same as in russia.

Russia's Putin signs law against 'undesirable' NGOs - BBC News

Supporters of the new bill say it is essential to prevent Russia from outside interference, amid ongoing tensions due to Russia's involvement in Ukraine.

But there was concern from Western governments and NGOs about the implications.

The US state department said it was "deeply troubled" by the law.