^^Going by previous intel history,No.As for availability(& assuming reasonable pricing),expect at least 1-2 months after US launch(so practically next year only for India).
CPU & Motherboard Price List
chimera201
Wise Old Owl
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Review: Best All-Round Value CPU
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Tested on Cheap B350 Motherboard
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Tested on Cheap B350 Motherboard
kaz
right here
Nope
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SaiyanGoku
kamehameha!!
chimera201
Wise Old Owl
chimera201
Wise Old Owl
*i.postimg.cc/qRGx5L6w/Capture.png
chimera201
Wise Old Owl
*tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-3600/images/relative-performance-cpu.png *tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-3600/images/relative-performance-games-1920-1080.png *tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-3600/images/relative-performance-games-38410-2160.png
nac
Aspiring Novelist
I was curious to know how close AMD is to Intel's single thread performance clock to clock. So checked Passmark benchmark, to my surprise AMD betters Intel clock to clock comparison.
I grouped CPUs based on core/thread count. Like 3600 and 3600x belongs to same group - 6 core 12 thread.
No dual core processors included (Athlon, Pentium, 6th and 7th i3)
Ryzen 2000 APU belongs to 1st Gen and 3000 APU belongs to 2nd Gen.
AMD is about 10% better than Intel (Ryzen 3000 vs Intel 9000) in both Single and Multi clock to clock.
Intel has higher clock speed for Single thread, AMD has higher clock speed for Multi thread.
*i.imgur.com/ZFwPhKV.png
I grouped CPUs based on core/thread count. Like 3600 and 3600x belongs to same group - 6 core 12 thread.
No dual core processors included (Athlon, Pentium, 6th and 7th i3)
Ryzen 2000 APU belongs to 1st Gen and 3000 APU belongs to 2nd Gen.
AMD is about 10% better than Intel (Ryzen 3000 vs Intel 9000) in both Single and Multi clock to clock.
Intel has higher clock speed for Single thread, AMD has higher clock speed for Multi thread.
*i.imgur.com/ZFwPhKV.png
chimera201
Wise Old Owl
Ryzen 5 3400G Review: CPU + Vega Graphics
chimera201
Wise Old Owl
Not many reviewers did any thermal benchmarks for Ryzen 3000 series yet because it auto overclocks.
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X & 7 3800X im Test: Benchmarks, Leistungsaufnahme und Temperaturen
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AMD Ryzen 5 3600X & 7 3800X im Test: Benchmarks, Leistungsaufnahme und Temperaturen
*i.postimg.cc/pr3thdKn/Capture.png
^^3600 & 3600X running much hotter than 3700X & 3900X??
chimera201
Wise Old Owl
Yeah that doesn't seem right. I guess it needs more BIOS updates. Also the reason why no reputed reviewers did thermal benches for it.
GamerNexus explains how it auto overclocks in respect to temps:
Coolers & Cases Really Matter for Ryzen 3000 CPUs | Thermal Scaling & Frequency
GamerNexus explains how it auto overclocks in respect to temps:
Coolers & Cases Really Matter for Ryzen 3000 CPUs | Thermal Scaling & Frequency
nac
Aspiring Novelist
List of boards (B450 and X470) with 256 Mb BIOS chip.
B450 AORUS PRO (rev.1.0)----------- 2 x 128Mb
B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev.1.0)---- 2 x 128Mb
B450 AORUS M (rev.1.0)-------------- 2 x 128Mb
X470 Master SLI/ac --------------------256 Mb
X470 Taichi ----------------------------- 256 Mb
Fatal1ty X470 Gaming-ITX/ac ------- 256 Mb
Crosshair Hero VII --------------------- 256 Mb
TUF X470 PLUS GAMING ------------ 256 Mb
STRIX X470 F GAMING--------------- 256 Mb
PRIME X470 PRO---------------------- 256 Mb
STRIX X470I GAMING---------------- 256 Mb
AORUS GAMING 5 WIFI-------------- 2 x 128Mb
AORUS GAMING 7 WIFI-------------- 2 x 128Mb
AORUS ULTRA GAMING------------- 2 x 128Mb
PS: I am not sure if 2 x 128Mb is same as 256Mb chip.
B450 AORUS PRO (rev.1.0)----------- 2 x 128Mb
B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev.1.0)---- 2 x 128Mb
B450 AORUS M (rev.1.0)-------------- 2 x 128Mb
X470 Master SLI/ac --------------------256 Mb
X470 Taichi ----------------------------- 256 Mb
Fatal1ty X470 Gaming-ITX/ac ------- 256 Mb
Crosshair Hero VII --------------------- 256 Mb
TUF X470 PLUS GAMING ------------ 256 Mb
STRIX X470 F GAMING--------------- 256 Mb
PRIME X470 PRO---------------------- 256 Mb
STRIX X470I GAMING---------------- 256 Mb
AORUS GAMING 5 WIFI-------------- 2 x 128Mb
AORUS GAMING 7 WIFI-------------- 2 x 128Mb
AORUS ULTRA GAMING------------- 2 x 128Mb
PS: I am not sure if 2 x 128Mb is same as 256Mb chip.
nac
Aspiring Novelist
Okay. Under applicable models they have some B450 and X470 boards too. And one of 'em is B450M Pro VDH. I don't know how I should understand that.
Because in Answer, they said A320/B350/X370 don't support PBO. In the applicable models list they have boards from all the chipsets including B450.
B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC is in the list, but does have PBO in BIOS.
Because in Answer, they said A320/B350/X370 don't support PBO. In the applicable models list they have boards from all the chipsets including B450.
B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC is in the list, but does have PBO in BIOS.
quicky008
Technomancer
Do cheaper gigabyte motherboards,like the b450 ds3h,exhibit any compatibility issues with the ryzen 3600?
i've heard that the 3600 runs at higher volts and temps as compared to its 1st and 2nd gen counterparts-is it due to some flaw in the cpu itself or does it indicate some compatibility issues with the motherboard?
i've heard that the 3600 runs at higher volts and temps as compared to its 1st and 2nd gen counterparts-is it due to some flaw in the cpu itself or does it indicate some compatibility issues with the motherboard?
Don't take chances with Ryzen 3xxx & a 450/470 series mobo.MSI has recently launched "MAX" version of their B450 Mortar/Tomahawk with out of box Ryzen 3xxx compatibility & with a larger size bios chip(main issue for most 450/470 mobos having issues with ryzen 3xxx) so either wait for them to arrive in India or buy X570(current cheapest good one is asus tuf gaming X570 for 17k).