China+Russia+India+France etc vs USA+UK+Australia+Canada+etc

Who is gonna win?

  • Side 1 with Russ,Sino,Ind

    Votes: 11 35.5%

  • Side 2 with US,UK,Can,Aus

    Votes: 5 16.1%

  • Nobody is gonna win,its a lose lose situation even if its not a nuke war

    Votes: 15 48.4%
  • Total voters
    31
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mayanks_098

mayanks_098

world is evil
So thats my weird question.
Lets face a hypothetical situation. There is a war between these two sides.
One is:
Russia+China+India+France+ all other natural(likely) allies

Other is:
USA+UK+Australia+Canada + all other natural/likely allies

Who do you think is gonna win?
You think US has the might to take on (virtaully) thw hole world in Russia-China-India-France etc?
Or you think these countries have already developed enough strategically capable of beating US in the battle of US vs ANY of the two from (RUSS-China-Ind)?
With and without nukes?
Which has the max firepower.
Give reason to support your views.

ofcourse you may come up with your own reasons for the grouping of the countries if you think mine was not appropiate,but i think its gonna be more or less the same,or Aus might switch from US to Russ-Sino-Ind side.

And most importantly,im not a war supporter.may the deadly weapons we make are never used.but i was just curious

BTW my vote goes to side with Russ+China+Ind.
Though there will be widespread destruction no doubt,but this side will be able to do more damage. i think.(Option 3 seems very relevant)
because.to counter US's nukes(if it arises) can be done with help of Russia.
And manpower,well India and Chinese forces have enough of it.

My views may be different than yours,because:
im not an expert so i might miss on something.
im not you,so say yourself politely,if interested
 
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dheeraj_kumar

dheeraj_kumar

Legen-wait for it-dary!
Command and Conquer - Generals, and Red Alert 2(Skirmish). Both of these games revolve around these two factions. :D good choice!
 
skeletor

skeletor

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Well, Russia has the world's largest Nuclear Arsenal, even larger than USA's.......
 
dreamcatcher

dreamcatcher

Rockin g33k
What is UK doing in there??Uk will start off an ally for the US and then backstab US itslef..and sure guys..theres a world war 3 coming u..with crude oil prices soaring high everyone will want their share of supremacy...USA has huge oil reserves which they are not utilizing..instead they targeded iraq and destroyed all the oil firms...the only motive is to dry u oil for the future so that they get a monopoly in the sector in the coming years..hopefully...the world would rise to it..but the aftermath of the rise may be a war..
 
kumarmohit

kumarmohit

Technomancer
The thing here is you just can not say becuase an actual war in never fought with the number of guns and bombs and people you have. Its a lot about the propaganda, how you impact people of the place where the war goes on and even ppl back home. Can you keep on production to carry on war effort?

And above all, the degree of experience you have in strategic warfare, maintenance of long and stretched supply lines.

In the above groups, no country except Russia (The French lost in WW2 unless the Brits and Americans saved their sorry selves) to a certain extent has exp. in strategic warfare. Barring Russia and PRC, most of the other countries are dependent on either Russia or PRC or the countries in other group for their military hardware.

On the other side, most of the countries in the USA UK grp are self reliant on military hardware. Plus United States has enough oil in its country and Canada that even Gulf supplies breakdown totally they can wage the war for a long time. Above all almost all the countries in the group have a lot of exp in strategic warfare that they gained in the two WWs.

While the second grp definitely has a high hand, it would be extremely difficult to say who wins.
 
Renny

Renny

Padawan
Anyone here played Rise Of Nations?

Side 1 with Russ,Sino,Ind will definately beat Side 2, And only Pakistan and North Korea (Rogue nations) depends on PRC for military equipment, PRC itself heavily depends on Russia for military equipment.
 
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hellgate

At Hell's Disq
kumarmohit said:
On the other side, most of the countries in the USA UK grp are self reliant on military hardware.Above all almost all the countries in the group have a lot of exp in strategic warfare that they gained in the two WWs.
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so if they hav so much of xperience then wat do ya hafta say bout Vietnam War?
 
dreamcatcher

dreamcatcher

Rockin g33k
Now China can't be trusted, it wil surely backstab India and after Us had fallen will try to conquer the world by force..i don't see this happening..well yea..if in the War of the Nations.. :D.. eurasia all the way.. :D
 
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mayanks_098

mayanks_098

world is evil
kumarmohit said:
The thing here is you just can not say becuase an actual war in never fought with the number of guns and bombs and people you have. Its a lot about the propaganda, how you impact people of the place where the war goes on and even ppl back home. Can you keep on production to carry on war effort?

And above all, the degree of experience you have in strategic warfare, maintenance of long and stretched supply lines.

In the above groups, no country except Russia (The French lost in WW2 unless the Brits and Americans saved their sorry selves) to a certain extent has exp. in strategic warfare. Barring Russia and PRC, most of the other countries are dependent on either Russia or PRC or the countries in other group for their military hardware.

On the other side, most of the countries in the USA UK grp are self reliant on military hardware. Plus United States has enough oil in its country and Canada that even Gulf supplies breakdown totally they can wage the war for a long time. Above all almost all the countries in the group have a lot of exp in strategic warfare that they gained in the two WWs.

While the second grp definitely has a high hand, it would be extremely difficult to say who wins.
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Dude,like someone said, expirience isnt the only thing that counts like you said about the ammunitions and all.
The expirience of WW2,though can be helpfull, but IMO is too obsolete to give an edge with todays war fare. US still lost Vietnam.
US airforce, well it is amazingly superior, but China+Russia combined can tackle it.Whats the opinion of other guys? And army,well, side 1 has enough of man power.
I think it will boil down to a navy.The faster side 1 can bring down the US's mighty navy, sooner it will win.But its going to be like hell given the might and strong wide spread presence of US navy.
Though,any war is a loss for mankind and human rights.

amd64_man2005 said:
Now China can't be trusted, it wil surely backstab India and after Us had fallen will try to conquer the world by force..i don't see this happening..well yea..if in the War of the Nations.. :D.. eurasia all the way.. :D
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LOL
i am not sure they will even be capable of thinking it. Not because they cant beat India afresh, but, after beating US(if they could) they will have virtually way too less left to think of invading India. Beating this hypothetical side 1 wont be an easy job....:rolleyes:
 
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bikdel

bikdel

Alpha Geek Banned
the grouping is very much a fasntasy hypothesis.....

the current war is againt terrorism ifyou ask me...

but for your question... Russian side will win.. why?
bigger country, US side cant attack so many fronts.. who said russia has less oil? it has much more oil than US .....

and siberian cold... it always helps russia to baffle its enemies..and china has the largest army and resources to create cheap yet hi-tech arsenals..... india has army, not much arsenal..... thats all i gotta say........

wheres germany?... yeah ww2 destroyed it but then again its better than france, etc...

but this is all waste.. we have UN now and situation is definitely better if not excellent than before... citizens have rights to rule out a war possibilty, human rights awareness is on the rise.... smaller wars may take place but WW3 possibility is ruled out....
 
praka123

praka123

left this forum longback
bikdel said:
but this is all waste.. we have UN now and situation is definitely better if not excellent than before... citizens have rights to rule out a war possibilty, human rights awareness is on the rise.... smaller wars may take place but WW3 possibility is ruled out....
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leave middle east from your thoughts.they are going to be the reason for IIIrd world war if it ever happens :| for obvious reasons like oil shortage ,islamism and more.count KSA(saudi wahhabism) for trigger.
 
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