Canon dslr

sujoyp

Grand Master
getting a 700D for soo much is out of question ...its just like buying the latest toy and paying the premium for there reserch and development ...After all 700D is just a higher entry level DSLR ...and falls below 60D and 70D which are mid range dslr.

flipkart is selling it for 58k ...I would definitely get D7000+18-55+50mm at that price rather then getting this

And for starters more lens range is better then hifi configuration ...what will your father make out with digic5 processor, 5fps burst,9 cross type AF point ....but he will surely find it inconvenient when his 58k dslr could not even zoom 10 meters, leave birding ;)
 

kaz

right here
What's wrong with the D5200..Its much better than 600D..Also i think better than D7000 because its compared to D7100 in reviews.

Seems like we are off topic.. The thread says Canon DSLR
 
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doom

Journeyman
My dad is going to use dslr for the first time in his life. He doesn't even know about half the technical features of 600d nor do I. He is more interested in the lens and its range to shoot pics.
If he goes for 700d then we could get the 18-135mm lens or maybe buy a 18-200 lens but it would be very costly. But in the case of 600d with a double kit, wet could get 2 lenses and maybe but 18-135 mm lens for short-medium range photography. So all 3 lenses at a reasonable cost.

But with other DSLRs either we'll have to go with 18-135 or but a body and a 18-200

D5200 is quite good I heard but my dad is only interested in Cannon.
 

kaz

right here
go with the 600D then..You won't believe dual lens kit is available for around 35k..18-55+55-250
Canon EOS 600D (18-55IS & 55-250IS) Combo Kit with 8GB Card and Camera Bag:Amazon:Electronics

but if you can convince him get the D5200 with kit with 18-55(38k) or 18-105(53k) and buy that extra zoom lens later..


but that 600d combo is a steal..also pay 49rs extra to get it delivered in 2days.

All prices quoted above are from Amazon because thats where I find the cheapest deals.. And I'm not their employee :D I'm still studying :)
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
its not that u will not be able to use the 18-135 STM on 600D ..its just that u wont be able to use it for full potential ...u want that range than get 18-135 STM not a problem....
dual kit with 600D is awesome for a start
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
When you use Live Mode or shoot using the LED screen the autofocus is the fastest in a 700D + STM lens hands down over any entry level DX format camera.

Secondly the STM lenses have the best build quality among any entry level lens.It is very very sharp and has is almost dead silent,which no other manufacturer makes.

Image Quality is amazing staright out of the Camera both 600/700D,it has a punchy vibrant and sharp image.

Feels amazing in your hand, all of them 600D/700D because ther are not tiny as the major rival.

For a beginner CAnon has very easy guide. I was a novice but 600D made me go full manual within weeks.


Amazing Deal.....grab it.
*www.amazon.in/gp/aw/d/B00F6XGR4O/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1385976874&sr=8-1&pi=SL75
 

raja manuel

In the zone
My dad is going to use dslr for the first time in his life. He doesn't even know about half the technical features of 600d nor do I. He is more interested in the lens and its range to shoot pics.
If he goes for 700d then we could get the 18-135mm lens or maybe buy a 18-200 lens but it would be very costly. But in the case of 600d with a double kit, wet could get 2 lenses and maybe but 18-135 mm lens for short-medium range photography. So all 3 lenses at a reasonable cost.

But with other DSLRs either we'll have to go with 18-135 or but a body and a 18-200

D5200 is quite good I heard but my dad is only interested in Cannon.

Are you sure he wouldn't be better off with some other kind of camera rather than a DSLR? Because you seem to be compromising yourself in the very areas that are DSLR strengths. If you are seriously considering a 700D but are limiting your lens choice due to budget I would suggest you wait a few months. If Canon follow their typical release cycle the 750D should release in March-April 2014, and if it has the dual pixel autofocus (which it most probably will) you will see a far greater price drop on the 700D than you typically see from Canon when they introduce a newer model.
 
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doom

Journeyman
Are you sure he wouldn't be better off with some other kind of camera rather than a DSLR? Because you seem to be compromising yourself in the very areas that are DSLR strengths. If you are seriously considering a 700D but are limiting your lens choice due to budget I would suggest you wait a few months. If Canon follow their typical release cycle the 750D should release in March-April 2014, and if it has the dual pixel autofocus (which it most probably will) you will see a far greater price drop on the 700D than you typically see from Canon when they introduce a newer model.

Few months is too long, I don't think he'll wait that much. How much is the difference(feature wise) between 600d and 700d?
Price difference is almost half. I am getting the 600d+dual kit for around 34-35k and the 700d+18-135mm lens is around 77k.

Ps- Will there be some offers around Christmas?
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
The major difference is the Autofocus which is apparent only in Video Mode and Live View and the TouchScreen. Otherwise they are the same. Even Image Quality is almost at par.
 
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doom

Journeyman
The major difference is the Autofocus which is apparent only in Video Mode and Live View and the TouchScreen. Otherwise they are the same. Even Image Quality is almost at par.

What's the live view? BTW IMO these extra features doesn't justify the extra 35k
 

kaz

right here
Definitely... These are basic marketing strategies by companies with newer models coming in price of current models fall and 700D's price would also fall after there is any update then, the price would be justified... I think 600D with that combo is the best deal untill one is not considering D5200

Live View is using LCD to display what the camera sensors are getting and not the Viewfinder..
 

srkmish

Ambassador of Buzz
You can go for 600d dual combo kit. Great price and the images will be at par with 700d. More importantly image quality will depend upon the lens selection, exposure and most importantly on the skill and creativity of the person holding the camera. There are professionals using p&s to get great quality imagea so be rest assured that 600d can produce amazing images if u have the knack for it.

As someone has said beginners worry abt cost, amateurs worry about gear but professionals worry abt light.
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
guys u should notice that 700D+kit is 55k around and with 18-135mm its 77k
even 600d+kit is 30k around and with 18-135mm lens which cost 34k it will be 59k too

I would still say that spending on 700D is not wise now...its a low end DSLR just like D600 or D5300 ...its better to spend on a mid range DSLR
and for a begineer who have never handled a dslr before ...he will never know what features he is missing wether he use a D600 or D700 .
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
Simply get the EOS 600D or the D5200,its mire than enough.Spending Rs 55K 700D is not worth it.I was tempted too,but better sense prevailed by suggestions from sujoy nac pranav and some more people,Im glad i believed in them.
 

aniket.cain

Padawan
Yeah, I too would've bought 600D over 700D, if I hadn't been earning in Pounds then. :lol:
I still love the camera and the touchscreen (and the 360 rotating dial :p) but the price is not justified right now.

@OP: As suggested by Incinerator, I would say get the D5200, or the 600D.
 
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doom

Journeyman
I've already given some of the significant differences between the 600D and 700D in a previous post, and where you can learn more about the 2 cameras.

Oops sorry, totally forgot about your post. You gave some good points there.

This video explains it:

Canon 700D (T5i) vs 600D (T3i) - Which One Should You Buy? - YouTube

Will check it out soon. Thanks for the link.

Ps- My dad and me are inclined towards the 600d+ combo atm
 

raja manuel

In the zone
Ps- My dad and me are inclined towards the 600d+ combo atm
It is a good package that presents excellent value for money - and that value will only increase once you install Magic Lantern for your camera. A stable release of ML is still not available for the 650D so I cannot guess when it will be available for the 700D (though Nightly builds are available if you are willing to risk it).

I have a 700D, which I purchased few months ago. Even though it was quite costly when compared to 600D, the extras were very tempting. So I got them over 600D, and don't regret one bit. The touchscreen is godsend. I am now much more interested in the manual settings than I was when I had a 1000D. And the STM is so silent, that you can never tell that it is focusing/re-focusing by listening to it.

I would be happy to answer any queries one may have regarding it. :)

How well does the camera track moving objects in Live View?
 
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