building pc for gaming....thought required

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
If you want the most extended future proof in terms of constant performance, nothing beats the i7 setup.
 
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mac555

mac555

Broken In
but if i go with i7 setup i will pair it with 5770 but if i go with amd setup than i will save some and put amd setup with 5850....and can i overclock i7 920 with value rams like transcend ones...
 
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mac555

mac555

Broken In
^but i have seen some benchmarks where the difference between i7 and 1055t is of about 10fps....
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
If you want the most extended future proof in terms of constant performance, nothing beats the i7 setup.

+1.

but if i go with i7 setup i will pair it with 5770 but if i go with amd setup than i will save some and put amd setup with 5850....and can i overclock i7 920 with value rams like transcend ones...

i7 OC will need a OEM HSF. it heats up. AMD OC can be done in stock cooler. they are better.

X6 1055 performs very close to i7 930 @ price difference of 4.3k

only once OC'd.

^but i have seen some benchmarks where the difference between i7 and 1055t is of about 10fps....

will you use premium ram kits? HD5870? or maybe GTX470-480? if no, stay rest assured. you'll get good FPS. not a killer difference in FPS.
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
but if i go with i7 setup i will pair it with 5770 but if i go with amd setup than i will save some and put amd setup with 5850....and can i overclock i7 920 with value rams like transcend ones...

Well you have spelt it out yourself. You will have to choose the balance. You can OC the i7 920 just that the FSB will go up, and the FSB : DRAM ratio will have to be kept low, since value RAM cannot run at high speeds, that is about it, but yes you can. If going for OC model, you would need a good HSF, since those multi - cores will heat up fast. No matter what chip you get AMD/Intel if going for OC, OEM HSF is required, else you will hit instability really quick due to over heat. Though honestly AMD+5850 is not bad. It is a good value for money. Though if you go for i7+5770, down the line you can easily swap GPUs...!
 

sartam

Right off the assembly line
X6 1055 should be compared with i5 750 and not with i7 930. Even here, i5 can easily beat 1055 at stock speeds in Gaming. Only in multi-threaded applications will you find X6 1055 beating i5 750 but by a very thin margin.
Hence if the focus is on Gaming machine, and not encoding using Handbrake, video editing, etc, then i5 will always be the best bet.

If you want a VFM Gaming m/c might as well consider a i5 750 + HD5850 where u can pair it up with a MSI board and cut cost instead of going for i7 + HD5770 combi.
Cheers
 
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mac555

mac555

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along with gaming i will also do video editing and coding and other stuff....but gaming will be like on weekends only due to college work....so what do u think will 1055t hold against i7 setup....and are 4cores with 8 threads better than 6 cores....and games like Battlefield Bad Company 2 utilise 6 cores..whats the take on that...
comparison between 1055t and i7 980x
*www.guru3d.com/article/phenom-ii-x6-1055t-1090t-review/18
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
along with gaming i will also do video editing and coding and other stuff....but gaming will be like on weekends only due to college work....so what do u think will 1055t hold against i7 setup....and are 4cores with 8 threads better than 6 cores....and games like Battlefield Bad Company 2 utilise 6 cores..whats the take on that...
comparison between 1055t and i7 980x
*www.guru3d.com/article/phenom-ii-x6-1055t-1090t-review/18

mentioned this in another thread:

i5: good gaming at stock speed. NO OC potential using stock cooler. you'll only overheat your processor.
i7: nothing beats it in gaming. SIMPLY THE BEST.
X4 965: better than i5 in gaming. due to high clock speed. also got some OC potential maybe 300Mhz more.
X4 955: same as above. just OC potential is 500-600Mhz. but i5 beats it @ stock speed.
X6 1055T: bad at gaming at stock speed. even Core Turbo of little help. runs very very cool. high OC potential. however once OC'd, other than i7, nothing comes in its path.

NOTE: gaming performance only. in encoding & all, the scenario will be different. in encoding more cores or threads is the winner. a 4Ghz X4 can be slower than a i7 @ 3Ghz.
 

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
Ya on stock cooler the i5 750 can't be o'ced much and will result in heating the processor.But once you o'c it using third party hsf upto lets say 3.5ghz or beyond, it becomes a different beast and starts performing like an i7.

I think in this scenario an o'ced x6 1055t cannot match the o'ced i5 750 because it shares the same phenomenal nehalem architecure as its big brother i.e the i7.
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
Ya on stock cooler the i5 750 can't be o'ced much and will result in heating the processor.But once you o'c it using third party hsf upto lets say 3.5ghz or beyond, it becomes a different beast and starts performing like an i7.

I think in this scenario an o'ced x6 1055t cannot match the o'ced i5 750 because it shares the same phenomenal nehalem architecure as its big brother i.e the i7.

thats true. i5 OC = i7 (approx).
X6 1055T (stock cooler) = i5 (approx)
X6 1055t OC < i5 OC.

only bad thing about i5 are. socket will change next year & stock HSF unsuitable for OC. also no IGP of any kind (i5 750). anyone ready to accept these conditions can tame a beast :grin:
 

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
Well said buddy. I have the beast but its not unleashed due to my board choice and lack of a good hsf.

---------- Post added at 03:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:41 PM ----------

Err guys some new proccy's have emerged from intel.The i7 875k and i5 655k. The k signifies of an unlocked multiplier and toms hardware have managed to oc these chips @ 4.8ghz on air. Refer this link.
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
Well said buddy. I have the beast but its not unleashed due to my board choice and lack of a good hsf.

but why did you settled for Intel Original board? was it case of availability or pricing? (Intel boards priced similar to Gigabyte or Asus or Biostar boards)

Err guys some new proccy's have emerged from intel.The i7 875k and i5 655k. The k signifies of an unlocked multiplier and toms hardware have managed to oc these chips @ 4.8ghz on air. Refer this link.

same proccy. just unlocked multiplier + higher pricetag. nothing like some extra OC'ble processor. better stick to locked processor. & save some money.
 

mavihs

Techie By Heart
same proccy. just unlocked multiplier + higher pricetag. nothing like some extra OC'ble processor. better stick to locked processor. & save some money.
875k is actually cheaper than the 870! though they don't have much headroom for OC! the unlocked multiplier is for OEMs so they can Overclock it!

Edited: was a typo(was writing something else somewhere & wrote some of it here :oops: )!
 
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vickybat

I am the night...I am...
Why would oem's underclock the proccy?The unlocked multiplier is purely meant for o'cing freaks to unleash maximum power of their proccys.

The i7's always had headroom for overclocking which has gone even better with the launch of k christened processors.
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
Its easier to OC with unlocked Mx. That is about it. The speed goes up, without increasing the front size bus speed. Good for the RAM too.
 

mavihs

Techie By Heart
*www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18978/35/

*www.anandtech.com/show/3742/intels-core-i5655k-core-i7875k-overclocked-and-analysed-/9
 
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mavihs

Techie By Heart
day beford yesterday i went again to smc nd asked abt the availity of NZXT GAMMA they told me it will be available in next 10 day (there was some payment issue )hope it be available in next 10-15 days.
i doubt it! there is a chance that they might not get it.
 
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