building pc for gaming....thought required

[coderunknown]

by 2012, i3 & i5 will have a shift to 22nm & Ivy Bridge & i7 from Nahalem to haswell.

 

[mavihs]

WHAT? who told so?

it do support Dual Channel. Single Channel. Triple Channel. just the performance will be different. if you don't believe me, look out here:will dual channel ram work triple

@Mavihs:
i7 architecture does support dual channel. If multiple of 2x DIMMs are loaded it moves to dual channel, and if 3x DIMMs aer loaded it adjusts to tri-channel. Its is how the memory controller sees the whole chunk on memory modules docked. Here is a review with analysis of dual vs tri channel.

thanx for the info guys!

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Amd P2 x6 1055T - 10.5k
Asus M4A87TD/USB3 - 6.2K
RAM GSkill 2GB x2 DDR3 1600MHz Ripjaws - 7.5K
WD 1TB Black - 5.2K
CM 690 - 4.3K
CM GX 650W - 5.7K
Mouse: Logitech MX518 - 1.4K
Keyboard: Microsoft Comfort Curve - 1K
UPS: APC 600VA (should be around 2.8K but not sure)
HP 24x DVD WR - 1.5K

 

[saurabh_1e]

thats going to go way out of his budget with good RAM!

i7 9xx doesn't support dual channel!

nope! they only deal in CM!
& who was this person? i've personally talked to the head of SMC & they will never get NZXT cabbies!

don't you get it, dual channel doesn't work in i7 9xx!


the socket change for i7 is going to take place in end 2011 or starting 2012

the person there was Mr. Gurmeet (think so)
He told me he is getting around 12-15 nzxt cabby model he doesn't know and cost was around 2.4k so i thought they must be overpriced gamma only.

 

[rahul.007]

but he doesn't stock nzxt(anything except coolermaster)....

i called him yesterday to inquire about the price of kingston 2 gb ddr3 1333mhz(2.7k), cm hyper 212 (2.1k) and asked for some other stuff 2 as usual(nzxt m59, hd 5670, phenom II*6 1055t)....

he said he doesnt keep any cabby's except cooler master but if someone wanted nzxt m59 badly, he could try an arrange one for around 4k....

 

[asingh]

^^
WHY..the heck are you guys paying premium for products available online..? Yes, SMC does not host anything else but CM cabinets.

 

[rkneo11]

go for a core i7 or atleast a corei5 over AMD...

 

[mavihs]

the person there was Mr. Gurmeet (think so)
He told me he is getting around 12-15 nzxt cabby model he doesn't know and cost was around 2.4k so i thought they must be overpriced gamma only.

when did he tell you this?

^^
WHY..the heck are you guys paying premium for products available online..? Yes, SMC does not host anything else but CM cabinets.

it'll cost the same, even if you order online as the shipping costs a lot!

 

[Hsakarp_kahtap]

Yesterday i went to smc and enquired for the AMD rig+ NZXT GAMMA cabby , they told me, they ordered 50 NZXT cabby and it will cost around 2.6k and will be come in 1-3rd of june .

 

[rahul.007]

2.6k for gamma!!!! never man.... ye to mujhe batae hue price se bhee jyada hai....

 

[asingh]

it'll cost the same, even if you order online as the shipping costs a lot!

No it does not. You need to ask the online shop, at times they offer good shipping methods at cheaper prices (which are not on their portal). Last year I ordered a CPU,2 GPUS, RAM, PSU, CM690, Motherboard, CM 120mm FANS all from Lynx. There were two large boxes. One for the components and one was the original CM690 box. Guess how much I paid for freight/courier till my doorstep. Rs. 450.

Heck even so suppose you pay a bit extra for the shipping, since cabinets are heavy. See the positive side -- do not need to go to the vendors shop, you get what you want sitting at your home in a cool a/c room. People may argue that they want to see the tangible product, but if one has researched enough online, it is easy to make out the product. Seeing the product physically will hardly tell you features.

 

[mavihs]

Yesterday i went to smc and enquired for the AMD rig+ NZXT GAMMA cabby , they told me, they ordered 50 NZXT cabby and it will cost around 2.6k and will be come in 1-3rd of june .

Confirmed, they are getting it!

Last year I ordered a CPU,2 GPUS, RAM, PSU, CM690, Motherboard, CM 120mm FANS all from Lynx. There were two large boxes. One for the components and one was the original CM690 box. Guess how much I paid for freight/courier till my doorstep. Rs. 450.

why didn't you buy the CM690 from Delhi only, the main suppliers who supply all over india is SMC only!

People may argue that they want to see the tangible product, but if one has researched enough online, it is easy to make out the product. Seeing the product physically will hardly tell you features.

i would disagree on this. its better to go as you can test the H/W there & then only & see if its working fine, also incase of displays you can check if there ae any dead pixels or anything!

 

[coderunknown]

Confirmed, they are getting it!

get it shipped from prime & save money + time. also some petrol.[/QUOTE]

 

[asingh]

why didn't you buy the CM690 from Delhi only, the main suppliers who supply all over india is SMC only!

Not really. My CM690 came directly from CM to Lynx and then to me. Cause I did not want to take the pain to drive to NP, find parking, and myself carry a 10-12 kg chassis, to my car, and up to my 2nd floor flat. On a click of a button I got all I wanted inside my house, delivered.

i would disagree on this. its better to go as you can test the H/W there & then only & see if its working fine, also incase of displays you can check if there ae any dead pixels or anything!

I doubt vendors will let you test the display. Heck I even got my DELL 24" online. 3 days flat. How will you test a fresh system (if purchased), including the HDD. Imagine waiting there, while they assemble it (which I would not trust), and then installing an OS. Please. What if you buy just a VGA, will they let you test it. NO. Or RAM sticks. So sitting at home is better, then going out in 45C.

 

[Hsakarp_kahtap]

2.6k for gamma!!!! never man.... ye to mujhe batae hue price se bhee jyada hai....

i nw it is overprice , he told me the price msi 5670- 6400, cosair vx 450-3900, 1055t -10,500.all are overpriced so i am gonna skip my purchase for next month.but buy cabby in next week . Agar 2400 ki dega toh ...

 

[giprabu]

Sandy Bridges will only revolutionize i3 & i5. it'll bring graphics turbo. not much for i7 or say nothing for i7 to be precise.

can u tel wat the sandy bridge is ???

 

[coderunknown]

next gen of Intel processors with integrated graphics in a monolithic core. in i3 & i5, both core & graphics are separate cores. in sandy bridges, 1 core will act as processor core as well as graphics core. good news, it'll b faster than current AMD graphics. bad news: new motherboard will be needed & AMD already ready with a sweet answer, LLANO. its same as Sandy Bridges but with better DX11 graphics.

 

[giprabu]

next gen of Intel processors with integrated graphics in a monolithic core. in i3 & i5, both core & graphics are separate cores. in sandy bridges, 1 core will act as processor core as well as graphics core. good news, it'll b faster than current AMD graphics. bad news: new motherboard will be needed & AMD already ready with a sweet answer, LLANO. its same as Sandy Bridges but with better DX11 graphics.

is core i5-750 is of that type of processor ??
i heard it has the integrated graphics controller on the chip along with the four cores...

 

[vickybat]

@ giprabu

No buddy the i5 750 has no graphics controller but an on die pci-express contoller to communicate with the gpu.

@ Sam.Shab
Its too early to comment on performance now.Comparing sandybridge & llano people would be more interested towards the computational prowess of the new microarchitectures rather than performance of the measly integrated on -die graphics controller.
Only time will tell.

 

[coderunknown]

is core i5-750 is of that type of processor ??
i heard it has the integrated graphics controller on the chip along with the four cores...

vickybat already gave the answer.

@ giprabu

No buddy the i5 750 has no graphics controller but an on die pci-express contoller to communicate with the gpu.

@ Sam.Shab
Its too early to comment on performance now.Comparing sandybridge & llano people would be more interested towards the computational prowess of the new microarchitectures rather than performance of the measly integrated on -die graphics controller.
Only time will tell.

well its true. its too early to comment. but from all hints surfacing, this can be derived:

Sandy Bridges: new socket. Graphics turbo. HT. better computing power than AMD's Llano. & yes costly.

Llano: AM3. Turbo Core. better graphics power than Intel Sandy bridges. & yes cheap. also 4cores + graphics in single package.

 

[mac555]

i will not change my proc,motherboard combo for at least 4 years...i know its too much so taking that in considerartion ,what will be mix of future proofness and performance....and i7 setup increased the total cost too and have to sacrifice on quality ram,cabby,etc and i7 930 is expensive then 1055t...but if i7 setup is worth it i can take it....me totally confused....