Building a gaming rig.[2 lakhs budget]

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seamon

seamon

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Oops. My bad :)
Overclocking might be risky especially in the long run.

Also, it's not that I haven't overclocked GPUs under lower power than what was consumed. I tried overclocking 2 GT 650Ms using a 120W adapter when they needed a 170W one. I got repeated black screen and driver crashes but overall no damage to either cards. Still overclocked on +290Mhz core. So yeah, not a noob in overclocking.

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OK I have changed my mind. I am buying Alienware 15.
It has everything a laptop is supposed to have
1)4k IGZO display.
2)GTX 980m
3)eGPU solution for GTX 980Ti
 

skeletor

Chosen of the Omnissiah
A GTX 980 has a TDP of 165W.
Do you realize how absurd your sentence sounds?
I want to overclock it. 400W is enough to overclock a 165W GPU don't you think?
Still consumes over 200w. HARDOCP - Temp and Power - MSI GeForce GTX 970 GAMING 4G Video Card Review

Although a good 450w PSU will run GTX 970 fine, TDP/Thermal Design Power is NOT power consumption.
 
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seamon

seamon

Superhuman Spambot
Still consumes over 200w. HARDOCP - Temp and Power - MSI GeForce GTX 970 GAMING 4G Video Card Review

Although a good 450w PSU will run GTX 970 fine, TDP/Thermal Design Power is NOT power consumption.

Enough headroom left no worries ;). Setup has been tested with TITAN BLACK with no bottleneck.
 

Nerevarine

Incarnate
That Alienware thingie has a PCIE X4 lane, massive massive bottlenecks imo...
a 980 Ti will function @ most likely 75% power.. waste of money in my opinion..

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Still consumes over 200w. HARDOCP - Temp and Power - MSI GeForce GTX 970 GAMING 4G Video Card Review

Although a good 450w PSU will run GTX 970 fine, TDP/Thermal Design Power is NOT power consumption.
o_O, Maxwell jindabaad !
 

skeletor

Chosen of the Omnissiah
That Alienware thingie has a PCIE X4 lane, massive massive bottlenecks imo...
a 980 Ti will function @ most likely 75% power.. waste of money in my opinion..
No, PCIe 3.0 X4 should be fast enough.

Still don't think PCIe 2.0 X16 has been maxed out YET, it hadn't during the days of 7970/280X. 2.0 X8 is same as 3.0 X4.

Check here: 2.0 X8 isn't bottlenecking Titan in any case.
Impact of PCI-E Speed on Gaming Performance - Puget Custom Computers
 

Nerevarine

Incarnate
I understand what you are saying but the graphics amplifier houses a X4 slot that passes all the bandwidth via a proprietary slot (AKA for Alienware 13 only).. Until, benchmarks claim otherwise, its safe to assume that there WILL be noticeable performance loss..
Comparing a motherboard's PCIE X4 3.0 to this product is not fair at all, a motherboard's PCIE lane is directly connected to the CPU with very minimal losses..
 
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seamon

seamon

Superhuman Spambot
[MENTION=26711]ico[/MENTION] [MENTION=110244]Nerevarine[/MENTION]
There are benchies here *www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Alienware-13-Notebook-Review.133602.0.html

In this case the GPU was heavily bottlenecked by the core i5U CPU. This will change in the AW 15 as that features a full quad running at 3.5Ghz which overclocks when the Graphics Amplifier is attached.
 

Nerevarine

Incarnate
he box weighs a hefty 3,530 grams, which means it is 80% heavier than the notebook itself. It includes a 460 Watts power adaptor, which is even sufficient for the most powerful desktop GPUs. The Graphics Amplifier is attached with a proprietary cable, which – contrary to modern motherboards – does not use a PCIe x16 interface, but only PCIe x4. This means very fast chips can lose about 10% of their performance.

This !

MSI GS30 Shadow 13.3" Ultrabook with External Desktop GPU Dock, this claims to have 16x full PCI express lane however..
perhaps @rhynasty can shed some light regarding this
 
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seamon

seamon

Superhuman Spambot
Good idea. Let's ask [MENTION=277192]rhyansy[/MENTION]

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Ok now I am worried about PCIe bottleneck
 
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seamon

seamon

Superhuman Spambot
There's a reason we don't suggest laptops for gaming. We have already suggested what's best for your need.

*Ahem* I am a prospective student of Computer Engineering in a college better than IIT. I need the freakin laptop to take to freakin class to take notes and stuff. So yeah, laptops only.

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Do you think a PCIE X4 lane will able to handle 4k gaming maxed out details whenever a capable enough card comes out?
 

sumonpathak

knocking on heavens door
*Ahem* I am a prospective student of Computer Engineering in a college better than IIT. I need the freakin laptop to take to freakin class to take notes and stuff. So yeah, laptops only.

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Do you think a PCIE X4 lane will able to handle 4k gaming maxed out details whenever a capable enough card comes out?
PCIE X4 "might" not handle 4K gaming IMHO.
I would suggest getting a light weight laptop for classes along with a gaming rig.
 
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seamon

seamon

Superhuman Spambot
PCIE X4 "might" not handle 4K gaming IMHO.
I would suggest getting a light weight laptop for classes along with a gaming rig.

Say I am out on campus and between classes I wanna game in a library. That's why I need the GTX 980m for libraries and GTX 980Ti/TITAN II for dorms. Besides, there will probably not enough space for a full fledged desktop in my dorm room.

You can look at the dorm room here :
First Street Towers: Virtual Tour

Look at the single rooms. There's hardly enough space and I'll be paying a lot for the room. I'll run out of space if I buy a desktop :-?
 

sumonpathak

knocking on heavens door
Say I am out on campus and between classes I wanna game in a library. That's why I need the GTX 980m for libraries and GTX 980Ti/TITAN II for dorms. Besides, there will probably not enough space for a full fledged desktop in my dorm room.

You can look at the dorm room here :
First Street Towers: Virtual Tour

Look at the single rooms. There's hardly enough space and I'll be paying a lot for the room. I'll run out of space if I buy a desktop :-?

Get a SFF rig?
u can easily fit one 980+4790k+16gb+decent mobo in an SFF rig.
 

rhyansy

MSI Gaming Pan India Sale
Good idea. Let's ask [MENTION=277192]rhyansy[/MENTION]

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Ok now I am worried about PCIe bottleneck

There's no bottleneck with PCIe of docking to GS30.

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seamon

seamon

Superhuman Spambot
[MENTION=26711]ico[/MENTION] So looking at this^, will PCIe x4 in AW 15 bottleneck future cards capable of 4k gaming at maxed out details?
Is it better to go with MSI?
 

Nerevarine

Incarnate
4k gaming with the current gen GPU is just too retarded.. Not even desktop single GPUs are capable of 4k Gaming at high settings, forget mobile GPUs
1440p makes a lot more sense

GTX 970 SLI on Crysis 3 (high, not even ultra) just barely manages 30 fps @ 4k
Crysis 3 is a game that was developed for last gen, the requirements will become brutal with the transition to next gen
 
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seamon

seamon

Superhuman Spambot
4k gaming with the current gen GPU is just too retarded.. Not even desktop single GPUs are capable of 4k Gaming at high settings, forget mobile GPUs
1440p makes a lot more sense

I was talking about desktop GPU. AW 15 has 4k screen but no 1440p screen option. Can a single future desktop card max out the screen?
 
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