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sbnaul
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oh my god... this has got me thinking again... i went through the benchmarking of a10 out at anandtech... AMD A10-5800K & A8-5600K Review: Trinity on the Desktop, Part 2... it seems that the i3 3220 is a bit better than the new trinity in fps... do u think that a10's gpu (AMD Radeon HD 7660D) can work together in sync with another discrete gpu like AMD Radeon HD 6570 ??? like both gpu's together... or is the i3+7770 better than the combo...
Cilus,that link was for BF3 multi-player comparison.In the review they have used a gts450 for resolutions like 1280*1024.HD7770>>gts450.
We have already discussed about gaming in low resolutions like 1280*720 or below and we have seen some links too.
At such low resolution with same graphic cards generally i3 2100 is ahead of fx4100 in case of a good mid-range graphic card.
With i3 3220 things become even worse for fx4100.At resolutions like 1280*720 or lower there won't be any definite advantage of fx4100+hd7770 over i3 3220+hd7750 i.e. there can be quite a number of instances when the latter combination would performsimilarly or faster than the former at 1024*768,despite having ~15-20% slower graphic card.I am not saying that it would always be the case but there can be quite a number of instances,and we have seen some pics and that was the point.
1024*768 is considerably lesser(~66%) than even 1280*1024.
In CPU bound games like Skyrim,Starcraft II,Just cause2 and others fx4100 would be behind i3 2100 even at FHD at high settings.
Had the resolution been 1600*900 or something like that then i3 3220+hd7770 or fx4100+hd7770 won't make huge difference.
Also for 1440*900 and above fx4100+hd7770 would be ahead of i3 3220+hd7750 in most cases.
Also OP is saying he can go for hd7770 with i3 3220 and at his resolution i3 3220 definitely makes more sense than fx4100.
Also processor wise i3 3220 is better than fx4100 for most of the things.
Fx4300,fx6300 cases are different.They are much better than fx4100 and are recommendable as alternatives to i3 3220.
In fact fx6300 with hd7770 makes more sense if within budget and available.
We have already discussed about gaming in low resolutions like 1280*720 or below and we have seen some links too.
At such low resolution with same graphic cards generally i3 2100 is ahead of fx4100 in case of a good mid-range graphic card.
With i3 3220 things become even worse for fx4100.At resolutions like 1280*720 or lower there won't be any definite advantage of fx4100+hd7770 over i3 3220+hd7750 i.e. there can be quite a number of instances when the latter combination would performsimilarly or faster than the former at 1024*768,despite having ~15-20% slower graphic card.I am not saying that it would always be the case but there can be quite a number of instances,and we have seen some pics and that was the point.
1024*768 is considerably lesser(~66%) than even 1280*1024.
In CPU bound games like Skyrim,Starcraft II,Just cause2 and others fx4100 would be behind i3 2100 even at FHD at high settings.
Had the resolution been 1600*900 or something like that then i3 3220+hd7770 or fx4100+hd7770 won't make huge difference.
Also for 1440*900 and above fx4100+hd7770 would be ahead of i3 3220+hd7750 in most cases.
Also OP is saying he can go for hd7770 with i3 3220 and at his resolution i3 3220 definitely makes more sense than fx4100.
Also processor wise i3 3220 is better than fx4100 for most of the things.
Fx4300,fx6300 cases are different.They are much better than fx4100 and are recommendable as alternatives to i3 3220.
In fact fx6300 with hd7770 makes more sense if within budget and available.
Buy i3 + HD 7770 and be done with it.
A10-5800K if you don't want to buy a discrete GPU now as the built-in GPU is going to fine for your resolution. A10-5800K + next-gen HD 8000 discrete GPU in future is also fine.
Cilus
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Ico, I have also suggested OP an Intel i3 3220 based configuration and told him that there is no AMD CPU at that price range that can counter it, expect A8-5800K. But since I have hands on experience on both Piledriver and Bulldozer with all the Win 7 BD patches installed and some custom tweaks, I found that BD's performance can be increased significantly using some small tweaks. If OP don't want any hassle, even the simplest one, then i3 3220 is the best solution for him.
In all the reviews, tests are done by disabling all the CPU enhancing features like AMD Turbo as well as Turbo based overclocking, by increasing the Turbo Clcok Multiplier value. Also there is another feature called Core Parking, which when turned off, increases BD's performance. As I mentioned in my previous post, if you overclock using increased Turbo Frequency in high performance power mode with Core parking off, the performance of all the BD processors increase around 5% to 10% in different scenarios. There is a very simple Windows Application available for Switching Core Parking on/off on the fly without restarting. Also there is a new option in almost all the EFI BIOS versions, called HPC or High performance Computing, which when enabled can eliminate the CPU throttling at lower than the stock speed.
After applying all those, I found out that performance of my FX-8150 was increased a lot in Benchmark suits like AIDA64, Cinebench and Wprime. In AIDA64, sometimes it was ahead of i7 2600K with no CPU overclock and Turbo Clock set to 4.2GHz. I have done all those tests with my stock AMD cooler and the temperature was not more than 70 degree.
In all the reviews, tests are done by disabling all the CPU enhancing features like AMD Turbo as well as Turbo based overclocking, by increasing the Turbo Clcok Multiplier value. Also there is another feature called Core Parking, which when turned off, increases BD's performance. As I mentioned in my previous post, if you overclock using increased Turbo Frequency in high performance power mode with Core parking off, the performance of all the BD processors increase around 5% to 10% in different scenarios. There is a very simple Windows Application available for Switching Core Parking on/off on the fly without restarting. Also there is a new option in almost all the EFI BIOS versions, called HPC or High performance Computing, which when enabled can eliminate the CPU throttling at lower than the stock speed.
After applying all those, I found out that performance of my FX-8150 was increased a lot in Benchmark suits like AIDA64, Cinebench and Wprime. In AIDA64, sometimes it was ahead of i7 2600K with no CPU overclock and Turbo Clock set to 4.2GHz. I have done all those tests with my stock AMD cooler and the temperature was not more than 70 degree.
OP
sbnaul
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Actually at lamington, Mumbai i am getting i3 3220 for 6.6k and HD 7770 for 8.1k... So the entire system from there would well suit the budget... That is under 26k~27k...
hey guys if not for Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H, which other motherboard would take in both i3 3220 and HD 7770 ??? no plans in overclocking...