**Airtel/Hutch/Aircel/Orange/BPL/IDEA/Reliance/Spice ThreaD **

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amol48

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do u think like this .. ok let me say .. i my place which is kinda village cum city..

still they havent brought broadband connection.. why because they cant get profit ..
when we enquired they said that atleast a minimum of 20-25 connection is needed , whihc i think is very hard to get in my place ...

if its true wht u say i think they should have laid down the optic by now .. but they havent..
i still agree airtel has loads of services than their counter part..
but still they are looking out for more profit..
ok if they are really working towards our benefit then why did they make deal(not officially) with banks , colleges , etc... to make calls , send mesage and irritate the customers...??
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Dude.. what you wanna say from this. Are you contradicting me or not ?? IF yes, I can't understand your side !! It's same as mine.. i.e. SMALLER CITIES = LESSER PROFITS = High rates !!!
 
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amol48 said:
SMALLER CITIES = LESSER PROFITS = High rates !!!
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Exact calculation :p...
mate we ve to pay rs1 for local sms and rs2 for national sms :D...
and u ppl are worried for 10 Paise ;)... am totaly agreed with amol's CALCULTION :)
 
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amol48

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almighty said:
Exact calculation :p...
mate we ve to pay rs1 for local sms and rs2 for national sms :D...
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I would die running out of bill then.. My bill would be around Rs.2000 per month!!! :p
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and u ppl are worried for 10 Paise ;)... am totaly agreed with amol's CALCULTION :)
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THX Dude...
 
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^^thanks man.
Today saw a news about trai putting some reforms to the network players.though i cant understand it..it seems network players will have to say less for buying additional spectrum..if this is so then we might ..MIGHT see reduction in price. Have anyone went through todays hindu ? At business section.
 
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Hutch is cheap, the network mostly sucks and sometimes wont work if your standing under a flyover or in a corner room, i think firstly the service providers should improve their network and connectivity issues and then deal with the pricing policies.
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i stay in goa in a village... thr is a 'sulabh shauchalay' toilet ..which 'gram panchayat' forcefully built for evry house in the village even if u have one ur own in ur house already ..
i dont get any network around 1 kilometer of my house .. but i was amazed to see i get 2 bars of range with hutch in this 'sulabh shauchalay' .. i can receive/send sms & receive missed calls .. cant make calls withis too week signal ...
isnt tht funny ..
now im not sure if its the hutch helping me... or the govt. with their 'mobile range fetching toilets'
 
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sandeepk

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Thats a very funny thing!!! 'Mobile ragne fetching toilets' are needed to be installed in evey village across India.:)
 
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1 Sep 2007, 0158 hrs IST
FResh news
hope its new.!!!
The telecom industry is moving from silence to shock with the impact of TRAI's recommendations on licence reforms sinking in. By throwing up new and unexpected winners and losers, the policy is expected to tear apart an already divided industry, with no two companies now able to find common ground.

Companies who believed they had a winning proposition by backing the subscriber-linked policy for spectrum allocation, while opposing auctions, are suddenly finding themselves out of the race. The new winners who are way up in the queue are those who have recently been given fresh licences or have applied for them.

The culprit is TRAI's first-come-first-served policy for allocation of spectrum, which now places applicants ahead of operators.

This ensures that existing operators will have to wait between six months to four years before they get additional spectrum. With the exception of Essar in Delhi and Mumbai and Bharti Airtel in Maharashtra and AP, who are eligible for the next tranche of spectrum, all others are doomed for an endless wait.

This is significant as it validates the stance taken by CDMA operators, Reliance and HFCL that GSM operators were using spectrum inefficiently. As it turns out, CDMA operators will also have to wait quite a while.

Each operator faces a unique impact. Maxis Aircel has emerged the biggest gainer. It already holds 14 licenses and will be first in line for fresh spectrum under the first-come-first-served rule. Vodafone Essar, however, suffers a setback in nearly 14 of its16 operating circles, but gains in 6 where it secured licenses in December 2006.

Idea Cellular is offered a mixed bag. In 11 of its existing circles, it has a long wait for spectrum but gains through its 2 new licenses of December 2006 in Mumbai and Bihar. Another 9 applications, which rank fifth in the queue have a decent chance of getting new spectrum. ByCell and Tata Tele are ranked third and fourth in the new order.

Spice is a significant gainer. It suffers a mild setback in its Punjab and Karnataka operations but faces a No 6 priority ranking in 20 service areas where it applied for fresh licences in August 2006. Following Spice are Swan and Cheetah, which together applied for 16 licences in March 2007.

The last two in the list are HFCL at ninth place with 21 applications and Parvsnath, which filed 22 applications earlier this week. Tata Teleservices and Reliances existing CDMA operations, like Bharti, will have to wait longer for new spectrum.

If accepted by DoT, TRAI's latest recommendations will prove to be a lottery for companies by rewarding them merely for having got a toehold in the license race ahead of others.

Each nationwide licence is likely to fetch government about Rs 1,600 crore for an initial tranche of 6.2 MHz of GSM and 3.75 MHz of CDMA spectrum. Experts place the market value at a much higher level than the benchmark established in 2001. New M&A norms permit upto 20% crossholding and consolidation of spectrum. This will make new applicants targets for horse-trading, as it is unlikely that these companies will set up nationwide networks considering the prohibitive investment cost.

Fresh debate on the parameters for determining first-come-first-served will also surface, as multiple companies may have either applied on the same day or received licenscs on the same day. So should date of application, date of LoI or effective date of license be the criteria?
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ThinkFree

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desai_amogh said:
..reliance cant coz they r cdma service providers..
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Reliance provides GSM service as well but only in 6 states of India.

The good news is that the limit on the maximun numbers of players in a circle is going to be lifted soon and then we would be seeing some leading players of cellular networks from around the globe like Qualcomm and AT&T in Indian market
 
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