Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 Lakhs

[d6bmg]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

Template copied from TechEnclave.

nvm, I think at first he was trying to post there, and then he copy/pasted it from there.

 

[dashing.sujay]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

But if RAM requires more power, why can't mobo supply required amount of power without compromising on CPU supply?
If I suppose what you quoted, then it would mean that a mobo is capable of supplying R amount of power(which is constant by your logic), divided into X no of components, and X[p] be the amount/power/measure of component. Now if I increase p, the respective power supplied to the component would decrease gradually. But again my this point contradicts comparing 2GB and 4GB mem, then why this case in 16GB?

Then also question remains, why does the power division thing ?

 

[Sarath]

"It also means more power through the mobo to the RAM, and slightly lesser to the CPU, which may cause the CPU to need more volts to reach same clocks."

That was very useful. But two RAM sticks are fine right?

 

[Extreme Gamer]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

Yes.

Sujau, with 4 sticks the power draw from the atx pin and the CPU pin increases.

 

[dashing.sujay]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

Sujau

Its Sujay

Its obvious that 4 sticks will draw more power, but my question is why power supply to CPU is compromised in this case? I guess. mobo is not made to supply limited power supply.

 

[mithun_mrg]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

BTW op can choose gskill sniper which runs at 1.25V

 

[dashing.sujay]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

^^IIRC ripjaws have more ocn capability than sniper.

 

[mithun_mrg]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

^^If i am correct the oc'ing limitations are due to the fact how SB platform oc memory not the ram itself

 

[Extreme Gamer]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

Its Sujay

Its obvious that 4 sticks will draw more power, but my question is why power supply to CPU is compromised in this case? I guess. mobo is not made to supply limited power supply.

I was using ipod :damn: sorry.

There is a limit to the amount of power that can be drawn from ATX and CPU power connectors without frying the mobo.

Other reason already stated, that there is more stress on IMC.

 

[dashing.sujay]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

Thnx for explaining.

 

[almightyrohit]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

2nd config. Get a Maximus IV Extreme-Z mobo. Get an H100 cooler from corsair. Get OCZ vertex 3 SSD and change the case to HAF-X.

Hey, thanks for your input. Does Maximum IV Extreme-Z mobo offers a significant upgrade over P8Z68? I really can't justify the price of the former (double). Also, I have heard OCZ has a very high failure rate and the after sales service of Corsair is very good. As far as the case is concerned, I think I will choose between Thermaltake Level 10 GT or 800D

@almighty rohit. Get the new storm trooper (if it's your taste) than level10gt. You can use the money you save for a nice water cooling kit.

Dude, just have a look at Thermaltake Level 10 GT It looks evil

No of DIMMS, not amt of RAM. 8GB modules not available in India?

8 GB Modules have been listed on Lynx. I am sure if not now then within a month it will be available in good shops in Delhi.

nvm, I think at first he was trying to post there, and then he copy/pasted it from there.

Galti se mistake ho gaya
Anyways this forum is much more active and people here are much more helpful than those on TE. Thanks guys

 

[Extreme Gamer]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

Corsair F series is SATA II(discontinued).Force 3 and GT are SATA III but have BSOD and reboot issues even after latest firmware updates.

The OCZ SSDs currently with latest firmware have no problems.

It was a problem with the SF-2000 series controller for the SSDs, over which the OCZ firmware is based. Almost all SF-2000 series models had the problem, not just OCZ.

If you can, get the MAX IOPS drive as it has double the lifetime (same chips used as Vertex 3 Pro). It is also faster

Make sure that you update the firmware before using the SSD. You should have no problems then.

BTW did you make a mistake by mistake? Cuz you say galti se mistake ho gaya lol.

EDIT: forgot to tell you, IMHO the Maximus IV Extreme-Z is worth the money IMHO. What makes it special is that the "Extreme" ROG mobos from Asus are always the best in class ever since they moved on to the red/black theme.
You get the best mobo out there for overclocking. You even get Bluetooth in the extreme mobos. Temp and volt sensors, external OCing through cellphone/Shitphone/shitpod/other PC. mobo handles sub-zero temps like a dream.

 

[vickybat]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

But if RAM requires more power, why can't mobo supply required amount of power without compromising on CPU supply?
If I suppose what you quoted, then it would mean that a mobo is capable of supplying R amount of power(which is constant by your logic), divided into X no of components, and X[p] be the amount/power/measure of component. Now if I increase p, the respective power supplied to the component would decrease gradually. But again my this point contradicts comparing 2GB and 4GB mem, then why this case in 16GB?

That's why an ROG or equivalent board is recommended here because of their sheer voltage handling capability. Like extreme gamer said, increasing the voltage to higher levels does have a chance of getting the board fried if it has incapable VRM design and solid state capacitors.

Now we are not setting world records in overclocking, so frequency numbers hardly matter. Having 16 gigs of ram in system A with a clock speed of 4.6 ghz is more advantageous than system B having 8 gigs of ram but a higher clock speed of 4.8 ghz in the same board. But the point is how efficiently you're going to use the memory and not just for showoff.

Today's imc's are very much capable and can handle upto 32 to 48 gigs of ram without drawing more relative power and the cpu still has enough volts in hand to crank up clock speed. But on comparison, extreme gamer's analogy stands true.

@ OP

Your budget is terrific and i suggest you get the highest end cpu available currently and that's undoubtedly i7 2600k or its latest successor the i7 2700k. Apart from the 100mhzclock increment, there's hardly any difference imo. No reviews available yet. I even suggest to wait a bit for sandybridge-E cpu's. They are true enthusiast stuff and i guess you can bag the cheapest quadcore with a slight premium over 2600k.

For gpu, i suggest you wait for the upcoming amd 7 series gpu's. They are really worth the wait.

 

[dashing.sujay]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

That's why an ROG or equivalent board is recommended here because of their sheer voltage handling capability. Like extreme gamer said, increasing the voltage to higher levels does have a chance of getting the board fried if it has incapable VRM design and solid state capacitors.

Now we are not setting world records in overclocking, so frequency numbers hardly matter. Having 16 gigs of ram in system A with a clock speed of 4.6 ghz is more advantageous than system B having 8 gigs of ram but a higher clock speed of 4.8 ghz in the same board. But the point is how efficiently you're going to use the memory and not just for showoff.

Today's imc's are very much capable and can handle upto 32 to 48 gigs of ram without drawing more relative power and the cpu still has enough volts in hand to crank up clock speed. But on comparison, extreme gamer's analogy stands true.

Thnx for explaining. But your last lines make me confuse. One side you say, Today's imc's are very much capable and can handle upto 32 to 48 gigs of ram without drawing more relative power and the cpu still has enough volts in hand to crank up clock speed, then other side, say EG's analogy to be true. Kindly explain pls.

 

[Extreme Gamer]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

He means that there isnt much difference between the specs in the real world. Only in synthetic benchmarks.

If the OP can wait, the 2700k is the way to go, since its a cherry-picked processor. It has lower voltage and higher speeds, so it also has higher OC potential.

Remember, that even if your mobo can easily handle a high voltage, your CPU or RAM may not.

btw I dont recommend more than two DIMMS because the socket 1155 mobos do not have dedicated VRMs (even MIVE and Z). Its because the 1155 mobos dont up the base clock much while OCing.

 

[dashing.sujay]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

Got it, but what if mobo has a good dedicated VRM ?
PS- if I am right, VRM are replacable, so why not replace/add a good VRM?

 

[vickybat]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

^^ Nope, you can't do that without tampering the board. Voids the warranty and has a 90% chance of damaging the board. In other words, its impossible.

 

[Extreme Gamer]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

VRM is replacable only if you have elite soldering skills.

VRM is the colloquial term for MOSFETs

 

[dashing.sujay]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

^Yep, MOSFETs are like so complex things. And these kind of "extreme" soldering is hardly possible in India, I think.

 

[d6bmg]

Re: Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 L

^^ I highly doubt over the availability of any single tech-person who have the courage to do it. (remember you are voiding the warranty)