ADSL 2+ is here

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Cyrus_the_virus

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Guys, stop worrying about marginal changes in SNR or modulation types unless you have problems with the line. If you're on 2Mbps and getting a througput of anywhere between 1-2Mbps, stop worrying about all this. All these are marginal things and won't make a change as of now. It will make a lot of difference once lines are freed to run at max potential. So, stop worrying about this now if you're already having a decent stable line with ok speed.

If you have an unstable line, that's a different issue.
 

Cyrus_the_virus

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praka123 said:
^already underground cables are connected to a box in house wall.from their line is connected to phone.

Are yaar, like I mentioned in my previous post. There is lot of technical things that happen for 'Letting loose' ADSL. It's really out of scope to mention all those here. However, one thing I can tell you is that it's not just about the underground cabling. They have to add additional technologies to the DSLAM and makes changes in it and BRAS etc for ADSL to run at max potential. If they let loose now without implementing all the backend, then we all are going to go loose because of the instability :D :D
 

praka123

left this forum longback
To circumvent such echo in full duplex systems, one of two methods may be applied. The first method is frequency division multiplexing (FDM), which may be defined as a multiplexing technique that uses different frequencies to combine multiple streams of signals for transmission over a communications medium. More particularly, forward and reverse streams of signals travelling in opposite directions occupy different portions of the frequency spectrum, with the effect that they can be easily separated in frequency at the receivers through a variety of signal processing techniques. FDM is not bandwidth efficient because it does not make full use of available bandwidth. The second method is echo cancellation, which allows forward and reverse signals to occupy overlapping frequency bands. A copy of the echo signal is reconstructed and subsequently subtracted at the affected receiver. Current echo cancellation techniques have been burdened in many applications by too much computational power and inferior speed performance rendering them undesirable.
*www.patentstorm.us/patents/6853626-description.html
So,I have to choose as it seems to be better at the moment :)
I'll reply back if any changes in Output Power:11.7 dB
 

Ponmayilal

Attitude matters
Praka123's questions are too technical that I shall keep away :) and leave it to the man on field Cyrus.

But to the earlier query why not all are put on the rate adaptive mode, my simple answer will be that to effect this technique, more add-ons to the DSLAMs will be required. So those connected to the Older DSLAMs will continue to be on the capped mode, while those getting connected to the newer DSLAMs will perhaps be on the rate-adaptive mode.( I do not know whether these add-ons are integral to the DSLAM or can be outfitted to the older DSLAMs and what is the BSNL policy on implementing this rate-adaptive mode.What BSNL is doing continues to be a mystery! )

Those who are more technically-minded can go through the link already posted
*www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/maxdsl2.htm
and other links therein.(but please read rate-adaptive DSL wherever it is MaxDSL:) )

This article clearly brings out what Cyrus has stated in his post. I quote "It is also anticipated that speed variations will be much greater particularly during peak periods due to factors such as exchange congestion etc. In fact BTw even warn that at peak times speeds may be the similar to an equivalent 2Mb fixed rate service." I also faintly remember to have read somewhere that it can even go to as low as 256Kbps (not sure though - me cramming too much into my little head:) )

Hmmmm...............what Cyrus says is true. Don't break your head. I was living peacefully with the "capped" line and BSNL has unnecessarily put me in the "nervous mode" by their "adaptive mode":D
 

gary4gar

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my modulation was changed to adsnl2+ today morning but my speeds is reduced & SNR has also dropped to 13 which was 26 previously:(
Modem Status

Connection Status Connected
Us Rate (Kbps) 509
Ds Rate (Kbps) 2042
US Margin 24
DS Margin 13
Trained Modulation ADSL_2plus
LOS Errors 0
DS Line Attenuation 37
US Line Attenuation 20
Peak Cell Rate 1200 cells per sec
CRC Rx Fast 0
CRC Tx Fast 0
CRC Rx Interleaved 5
CRC Tx Interleaved 0
Path Mode Interleaved

*www.speedtest.net/result/208340671.png
 
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Harvik780

ToTheBeatOfUrHeart
^^Wait a few days and see if your connection has stability issues.If you read the above posts u'll find that SNR drops when on ADSL2+.
Try forcing the modulation in the modem and see if there are any differences.
 

gary4gar

GaurishSharma.com
Harvik780 said:
^^Wait a few days and see if your connection has stability issues.If you read the above posts u'll find that SNR drops when on ADSL2+.
Try forcing the modulation in the modem and see if there are any differences.
yes getting stability issues, connection terminates in mid way, i can't stay connected for more than 1hr:(

damm, at present stopped downloading at night, i am not able to downanything:(:(
 

cool_techie_tvm

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gary4gar said:
my modulation was changed to adsnl2+ today morning but my speeds is reduced & SNR has also dropped to 13 which was 26 previously:(
U mean it changed automatically or u enforced the change?
 

The_Devil_Himself

die blizzard die! D3?
err...guys my madulation type is adsl2+ since maybe 3-4 months but still i can't get 2mbps what is the problem.called mtnl monkeys ,as expected, they had no clue what I was saying.HELP.
Should I change it or is it automatically configured?
 

gary4gar

GaurishSharma.com
cool_techie_tvm said:
U mean it changed automatically or u enforced the change?
automatically changed

check my previous post in the same thread for previous values:)
 

praka123

left this forum longback
i have tinkered with adsl-settings and now my snr is as below: :D
aDSL link speed:
upload:512kbps
download:2048kbps
SNR:19 dB(upload)
SNR:28.5 dB(download)

Attenuation:21.5 dB(upload),39.0 dB(download)

my new adsl-settings which i tried by trial n error method:
ADSL Modulation:T1.413
EC/FDM Mode:EC
BitSwap:Enable
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this settings fine for me ;)
 

The_Devil_Himself

die blizzard die! D3?
upload:256kbps
download:288kbps
SNR:20dB(upload)
SNR:40.5 dB(download)

Attenuation:16.5 dB(upload),31.5 dB(download)


My stats.I changed to adsl yesterday night but when I logged in again today it was adsl2+ again.I don't why I am not getting 2mbps speeds.
 

The_Devil_Himself

die blizzard die! D3?
^^my speeds are excellent too :) 288kbps down and 256kbps up.dammit.

I never face a disconnection for even 1 second with this speed but at 2mbps it only stays connected for 4hours per day.I dunno what to do I was planning to opt for night unlimited connection in January but looks like i'll have to take full unlimited which sux.
 
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