8600/8800/9600/HD3xxx... i m soo confused

[ankushkool]

so which mobo sud i go 4 if i want SLI or crossfire support???

 

[entrana]

if u want sli u shud go for 680i chipsets or if ur rich the 780i chipset. if ur on a budget go for sli 650i

 

[nish_higher]

SLi = XFX 680i LT or 680i Sli- both boards are very stable.don't go for 650i boards especially P5N-e-sli .this board is unstable,has poor ram compatibility and 650i is obsolete now.

Crossfire= Abit IP 35 PRo ,

In case u plan to use a single card only and are on a tighty budget = Abit IP35-E

 

[yogi7272]

for sli .. go for xfx 680i lt or better 780i ..

for crossfire - asus p5e - x38 mobo or abit x38 quad gt ..

p35 is not recommended of crossfire as it 16x + 4x config.. where as x38/ x48 is 16x + 16x config

best bet is xfx 680i lt + 9600gt sli ..

 

[BULLZI]

Dont go for 780I SLI. All of them have got terrible heating issues for the Northbridge chipset. 3rd party cooler is must. And after all, u wont be using 3 GTX/Ultras in 3 way SLI, are u?
About 9600GT SLI why to get that when one can get 8800GT in SLI that performs lot better than 9600GT?
9600GT even has no DX10.1 support.
HD3850 will be a better choice than 9600GT.
Its always better to get a mid/high range graohics card rather than two low end cards.

 

[nish_higher]

780i will be obsolete soon,but that mobo comes with a cooler for northbridge-heat is an issue when 3 cards are used otherwise it runs great--tried with 2 8800GTs on XFX 780i.but that makes no sense coz even a 650i would run that.
so get a 680i Sli

 

[BULLZI]

^^ Are u sure all the 780I mobos comes with Northbridge cooler? I didnt find it in XFX. Found the cooler in EVGA.
By the way, northbridge overheating issue is still there when u try to oc ur proccy. Even one notch voltage up for northbridge raises the temperature very high. Its not only for three gfx cards. The board is not at all a decent overclocker.
X38 chipset is far better.

 

[nish_higher]

of course it comes with a cooler, i've unpacked that board myself
see here-
*www.legitreviews.com/article/616/3/


but one thing that i really hate abt XFX is the use of traditional capacitors


Overclocking with C2Q QX9650 -

Now that the processor has been pushed to its limits at 1.5Vcore we wanted to see how high we could get the Front Side Bus on our 45nm Quad-Core processor. The 780i SLI motherboard was able to take our QX9650 all the way up to 475MHz FSB, which is a new record for this processor! The Corsair memory kit was running 1266MHz, so this confirms the board feature of 1200MHz memory! Memory bandwidth on Sandra XII SP1 was found to be 8434MB/Sec on the Int and 8390MB/Sec on the Floating point, which is great for the clock frequency. The 780i SLI motherboard had no problems running 1900MHz FSB with a 45nm quad-core processor, which is impressive. Now you have to wonder why NVIDIA doesn't support 1600MHz FSB processors with this board.

 

[yogi7272]

all nvidia northbridge chipsets heat a lot compared to intel chipsets ..that's not a secret .. only thing to consider an nvidia chipset is for sli ..
if he wants sli that badly then only go for 680i /780i ... the upcoming 790i is ddr3 ..maybe ddr2 version later..but no news of that still .

i would get a x38 chipset board like abit x38 quad gt -12k or better asus maximus formula- no idea abt price ..maybe 14.5 k ..and good card like 8800gt -12k or better 3870x2-21k something if he has such a large budget ..

 

[nish_higher]

you are right in a way that temperature is more than intel chipset but heat is not at all an issue with 680i\680i LT\780i --temps are always within limits.780i gets hot without that cooler thats why its supplied-its the owner's wish to install it or not.
XFX 680i is a highly recommended board + coupled with 8800GT OC it will prove to be best bang for u

 

[s18000rpm]

Alot of people worry about the 9600's compatibility with the upcoming DX10.1. From what we hear,9600 wont be able to support DX10.1. But still,only a handful of games in the market can successfully utilize DX10, DX10.1 is just too much for now. according to sources, the 9600GT will cost 169 USD, or 1299 Yuan. Coincidentally, this was the price of 8600 when it first came out. 8800GTS dominates the 2000+ yuan market,while 8800GT dominates the 1500~2000 range. With the arrival of HD3850, 8600GTS got kicked out of the 1000~1500 market. With the upcoming 9600GT however,the 1000~1500 market will be owned by nvidia yet again.

*www.neowin.net/news/main/08/01/14/nvidia-geforce-9600gt-review#comment613782


no HDMI too

9600gt beats the 8600gts effortlessly but is not future proof.

nvidia=better drivers
Ati not so good drivers (rit now)

what should i do?

get hd3850? ($175)

btw, how much will it cost to send a stuff(gfx. card) frm USA to here (india). [if later ver. of 9xxx support dx10.1, i'll do this.]

 

[dOm1naTOr]

Now the driver issues of ATI has been sorted almost completely. Now the drivers are as stable as with nvidia forcewares.

 

[yogi7272]

you are right in a way that temperature is more than intel chipset but heat is not at all an issue with 680i\680i LT\780i --temps are always within limits.780i gets hot without that cooler thats why its supplied-its the owner's wish to install it or not.
XFX 680i is a highly recommended board + coupled with 8800GT OC it will prove to be best bang for u

yup .. for stock it does not matter .. but makes a hell lot of difference when u oc ur proci .. the combi u mentioned is good too ..

 

[mayanksharma]

@s18000rpm,
From your link, the conclusion is drawn in the favour of Nvidia with the launch of its new card 9600GT! Even a reference clocked 9600GT card beats HD3850 easily in almost every benchmarks! And with numerous overclocked models from different vendors like eVGA, XFX and Gainward, 9600GT performance is almost equal or sometimes better than HD3870!! Now its just the matter of price here in India! If either one of them is cheaper, going with that card makes sense!
However, 8800GT is still the Best League performer. I still recommend Nvidia!

 

[nish_higher]

Source-Anandtech

*img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/8bd04dda1f.jpg

 

[s18000rpm]

@s18000rpm,
From your link, the conclusion is drawn in the favour of Nvidia with the launch of its new card 9600GT! Even a reference clocked 9600GT card beats HD3850 easily in almost every benchmarks! And with numerous overclocked models from different vendors like eVGA, XFX and Gainward, 9600GT performance is almost equal or sometimes better than HD3870!! Now its just the matter of price here in India! If either one of them is cheaper, going with that card makes sense!
However, 8800GT is still the Best League performer. I still recommend Nvidia!

it does beat it, but its not dx10.1 compatible & no HDMI either.

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

Palit 9600GT has 2 DVI ports, 1 display port and 1 HDMI port on it.
Many other are giving HDMI to DVI dongle with the card!

 

[mayanksharma]

@s1800rpm,

Palit 9600GT has 2 DVI ports, 1 display port and 1 HDMI port on it.
Many other are giving HDMI to DVI dongle with the card!

There u go! Now with HDMI! And btw, one more thing, DX10.1 isnt that much of a buff! For the moment there are no applications or games implementing it and not going be for a period of time. DX10.1 just introduces a new Shader Model and few additional expansion to current instructions in DX10! Knowing the fact that, Nvidia plans to go a leap ahead with DX11!
Henceforth, saying DX10.1 as an advantage to HD3XXX series means no issue to anyone!
So, as far as performance is concerned, i see 9600GT shining!

 

[ankushkool]

thanx everyone... i hav decided 2 go 4 8600 right now due 2 budget rest

 

[dOm1naTOr]

i remember everyone buffing about six months back "there s no improvement in quality b/w DX9 and DX 10 So getting a high end DX9 card is better than DX10". for eg: everyone recommended 7900GS and GT instead of 8600GT and GTS. But hey-are they happy with their purchases?

So a better future proof card makes more sense, at least when real DX 10.1 games begin to release. AT that time the DX 10.0 cards wd be holding back in performance compared to 10.1 cards like the geforce 7 cards are doin now in todays games in vista.

7900GS and GT were supposed to be very much faster than 8600GT or GTS, then the proved it too. But in recent games in Vista, the 8 cards are overtaking coz of DX10cards yielding better performace in vista than DX9 cards.