8400GS running hot

tanmaymohan

tanmaymohan

Geek v1.0
My specifications are
Intel Core i3-2120
4GB RAM
DH61WW mobo
Palit 8400GS

Suddenly a few days back my GPU stopped working
i mean there was no display while turning on the computer

I connected the VGA cable to onboard graphics and it worked fine

But today there was no display even on onboard So i had to reconnect it back to GPU which again worked fine!

I ran Furmark and GPU was hovering at 90-100 degrees C (idle 67-70C)

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I have a few questions :

1. Why suddenly it stopped working? then again start working the next day?
2. Why is it running too hot ? (It does have a fan)
3. How can i manually switchover to Intel onboard graphics? (BIOS settings are bit confusing)?
4. What more games can i play on INTEL HD 2000 graphics (Tomb Raider 2013 works fine) ?

Thanks in advance

Tanmay Mohan
 
harshilsharma63

harshilsharma63

DIY FTW!
Buddy, see my sig, I have an i3 2100 and used to use 8400GS. But, seriously, the i3's IGP is more powerful than this crappy GPU. PLease remove it immediately and don't repeat my mistake.
 
Myth

Myth

Cyborg Agent
Dont run furmark or Kombuster !!

Complete system config would help. Include PSU.
Clean the whole system.
 
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tanmaymohan

tanmaymohan

Geek v1.0
Intel ® Core i3 2120 3.3GHz
Simmtronics 4GB DDR3 1333MHz
Windows 8 Enterprise x86
Intel DH61WW motherboard
WD 500GB HDD
Bestec 300W PSU


I don't know how to remove the GPU
many times i always end up with various problems
 
harshilsharma63

harshilsharma63

DIY FTW!
tanmaymohan said:
Intel ® Core i3 2120 3.3GHz
Simmtronics 4GB DDR3 1333MHz
Windows 8 Enterprise x86
Intel DH61WW motherboard
WD 500GB HDD
Bestec 300W PSU


I don't know how to remove the GPU
many times i always end up with various problems
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> watch some YouTube videos on how to remove it. It's really simple.

> Eliminate that GPU ASPA.

> upgrade that PSU ASAP. Buy at least a Corsair CX430V.
 
Nerevarine

Nerevarine

Incarnate
Y U People always make this mistake lol
HD 2000 is around 5-10% better than 8400 GS..
The only thing you will miss is the sweet nvidia control panel

Btw Never heard of Bestec PSUs.. need to research a bit

EDIT: Id be careful if I were you OP


4. What more games can i play on INTEL HD 2000 graphics (Tomb Raider 2013 works fine) ?
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To answer your question, all Pre 2008 Games will run at med-med high settings..
Games like Dragon Age origins etc will run at high at optimal resolutions..
Forget the latest games, they wont run at all or will be too laggy to play

You can always OC your HD 2000 in the control panel, for another 5-10% boost.
Currently Im playing Darksiders at 720p with no issues with framerates
 
saswat23

saswat23

Human Spambot
8400GS is waeker than HD 2000 of i3-2120. So, there is no point in keeping it. It will add to more power consumption only.
Better remove the card.
 
Sainatarajan

Sainatarajan

Wise Old Owl
I can run FIFA 13 Med settings and Hitman Absolution with Lowest settings in my HD 2000. Seriously you have to change your PSU
 
anirbandd

anirbandd

Conversation Architect
^ furmark/kombuster are essentially stress testing s/w meant for high end gpu with custom cooling and voltage OCing.

it puts a hell of a lot load on the chip, making it 100% load all times, and uses all the threads.. so the chip is overworked, it draws a hell lot of current, more than its meant to draw and it heats up.. continual usage Will lead to burnout. It even put a lot of stress on the PSU, which has to work to supply the current needed.

@OP: Its high time you left that GPU. Buy a 7750/7770. both are good and leagues ahead of nvidia8400 and intel HD2000 :)
 
Myth

Myth

Cyborg Agent
^^As anirbandd said.

harshilsharma63 said:
Reason please!
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Furmark/Kombuster are more of a stress test than benchmarks. They push the gpu beyond its capability with extra power draw resulting in excess temps and currents. The mosfet heatsinks arent designed to perform at such high levels nor cool down these levels of heat. Its not advisable to run furmark/kombuster for hours/days like one runs cpu stress test like prime95,etc. Actually pointless running them at all.
Actual games or applications do not force so much power draw nor do they stress the gpu so much.
I think I read somewhere that nvidia/amd cards throttle in the presence of furmark running. Not too sure but see if google can confirm that.


Use game benchmarks, 3dmark, etc.
 
harshilsharma63

harshilsharma63

DIY FTW!
Myth said:
^^As anirbandd said.



Furmark/Kombuster are more of a stress test than benchmarks. They push the gpu beyond its capability with extra power draw resulting in excess temps and currents. The mosfet heatsinks arent designed to perform at such high levels nor cool down these levels of heat. Its not advisable to run furmark/kombuster for hours/days like one runs cpu stress test like prime95,etc. Actually pointless running them at all.
Actual games or applications do not force so much power draw nor do they stress the gpu so much.
I think I read somewhere that nvidia/amd cards throttle in the presence of furmark running. Not too sure but see if google can confirm that.


Use game benchmarks, 3dmark, etc.
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Well, I know that info. Furmark is the nightmare of GPU's. But OP wasn't using ut as a benchmark. I used it to get stability on overclocks :)
 
anirbandd

anirbandd

Conversation Architect
harshilsharma63 said:
Well, I know that info. Furmark is the nightmare of GPU's. But OP wasn't using ut as a benchmark. I used it to get stability on overclocks :)
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I ran Furmark and GPU was hovering at 90-100 degrees C (idle 67-70C)
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R-E-A-D. :p

anyway, to get stability on OCs?? play a few demanding games for that :)
the loads created during gaming cannot be simualted by apps like Furmark/Kombuster/3DMark.

IMO, furmark is just a show off of how much load/temp your PC can sustain.
 
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tanmaymohan

tanmaymohan

Geek v1.0
Now gpu is not even showing up in BIOS or Windows


Currently using IntelHD2000
Max payne 3 works gud

What could be the cause of not showing up ?
 
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tanmaymohan

tanmaymohan

Geek v1.0
i mean the 8400gs is not showing up in bios

Yes it is connected to the power supply and FAN runs too

PSU is Bestec ATX-250-12Z REV 250W (6.8years old got with HP COMPAQ cabinet no issues yet)
 
harshilsharma63

harshilsharma63

DIY FTW!
tanmaymohan said:
i mean the 8400gs is not showing up in bios

Yes it is connected to the power supply and FAN runs too

PSU is Bestec ATX-250-12Z REV 250W (6.8years old got with HP COMPAQ cabinet no issues yet)
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> BIOS will not tell you if a graphic card is installed. It will only tell you that one of the PCIe x16 slot is occupied, thats it.

> That PSU is crap.
 
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