7 Reasons Why Microsoft is Doomed!

[chesss]

oh sleepy mods how abt waking and closing this lame thread?

 

[Help~Is~Here]

oooooo...I so wanna kick HiH arse for his lame claim of Non-Existant Vista upgrades

Must resist kicking the arse of ignorant fanboys

you were lame enough in showing an inter-package upgrade, not an inter-OS upgrade that I was talking about.. maybe you need to kick yourself.

ya no upgrade options and 98 should support dx 10 ... hell why only dx 10 t shud also support dx 10.1 ... aint i right HiH

Are you even reading what I'm writing? did you even try doing a google on Alky Project? Don't be lame enough in trying to push your assumptions into peoples brains.

And please don't get me started on the emergence of Dx10.1 and me needing to get a new card even before 3 months since I got it for it to work at the best!!

 

[iMav]

well i was thinking HiH why is dx 10 only to vista it shud also be ported back to win 3.1 also ...

ya ur right y did ms make us upgrade to even win 95 ... ... damn dx 10 and vista dx 10 should work on win 95 and win 3.1 ... bill gates are u listening ... ppl want dx 10 on 98 i say y only 98 it shud be on 3.1 also

 

[gxsaurav]

Are you even reading what I'm writing? did you even try doing a google on Alky Project?

Plz read the conversation between me & IRD on the previous page about this Porject first.

And please don't get me started on the emergence of Dx10.1 and me needing to get a new card even before 3 months since I got it for it to work at the best

Where did u got the info that DirectX 10.1 needs a new graphics card?

 

[shantanu]

oh sleepy mods how abt waking and closing this lame thread?

really dude ? ever read the whole thread and ma warnings..

these guys are hardcore flamers.. and they wont listen.. after all i cant ban all of them.. and this thread.. close.. i wont atleast i wont.. if any other mod wants he can ..

 

[Help~Is~Here]

Where did u got the info that DirectX 10.1 needs a new graphics card?

It requires a new graphics card to run at it's full potential, it is only "compatible" with existing DX10 cards, are you sleeping man?
*www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6824&Itemid=2

prakash im still awaitng an answer to my question on who is a monopoly

Maybe a lot of history lessons are needed here

*news.com.com/2100-1040-232565.html
*money.cnn.com/1999/11/05/technology/microsoft_finding/

Anyways, it's quite Microsoftian to forget the past.. nothing to worry..
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[iMav]

ya ur right ms ms is still a monopoly else they shud back port dx 10.1 to win 3.1

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

ALl they are trying to say iMav is that by making DX10 exclusive to vista M$ people are forcing people to upgrade from XP to VISTA.If it was not for DX10 vista would not have sold 10% of what it is selling now.Thats why they made it vista exclusive.

BTW the thread is going great with all the good views and still better counter-views.

 

[Help~Is~Here]

ALl they are trying to say iMav is that by making DX10 exclusive to vista M$ people are forcing people to upgrade from XP to VISTA.If it was not for DX10 vista would not have sold 10% of what it is selling now.Thats why they made it vista exclusive.

BTW the thread is going great with all the good views and still better counter-views.

No man, he's not going to understand that point ever, keeps nagging onto that single liner with nothing better to say and keeps flaming..

 

[iMav]

devil ... listen to ur advocate .... it was not possible to back port dx 10 to xp and have optimumb performance coz it would mean re-wrting a lot of xp code and in a sense u can consider vista to be that re-writing of major part of xp code

 

[gxsaurav]

ALl they are trying to say iMav is that by making DX10 exclusive to vista M$ people are forcing people to upgrade from XP to VISTA.If it was not for DX10 vista would not have sold 10% of what it is selling now.Thats why they made it vista exclusive.

Do you have a problem in understanding technical aspects of OS? Do u know how an OS works & why can't DX 10 be back ported to XP?

Enough of explaining, no matter how much I try to teach something, idiots can't listen & read the explanation at last page.

It requires a new graphics card to run at it's full potential, it is only "compatible" with existing DX10 cards,

R U a DirectX developer? no seriously if u r have a look at the SDK & what will DX 10.1 bring to table. 99.9999999999% Features of DX 10.1 are same with DX 10. The only change is in efficiency & how work is done. There is no quality difference between DX 10 & DX 10.1, its only how the code is executed bringing more efficiency

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

OMG iMav wont let me become a pope..lols

Ok you are saying that M$ developed DX10 then they realized that DX10 can't be implemented in XP so they made windows VISTA.And since nobody would have purchased just XP+DX10 support so they also added some eyecandy.Is this what are you trying to say?

Do you have a problem in understanding technical aspects of OS? Do u know how an OS works & why can't DX 10 be back ported to XP?

Seriously I am finding it hard to understand why can't Dx10 be implemented in XP inspite of having good knowledge of how a OS work.

And please man don't call me an idiot only because I don't support you views.

 

[gxsaurav]

Seriously I am finding it hard to understand why can't Dx10 be implemented in XP inspite of having good knowledge of how a OS work.

I can't explain anything to u, I give up, is it very hard to read the last page where I mentioned why DX 10 cannot be ported to XP.

No matter how much I try to polish a turd, it will remain a turd.

Hindi main - bhains ke aage jitni bhi been bajao....woh bhains hi rahta hai

"Woops, not supposed to say here"

 

[Help~Is~Here]

Do you have a problem in understanding technical aspects of OS? Do u know how an OS works & why can't DX 10 be back ported to XP?

Enough of explaining, no matter how much I try to teach something, idiots can't listen & read the explanation at last page.

This is the problem, considering yourself as a genius and everyone else idiots.. when will you learn gx?

Enough of your so called genius explanation! Read this:

Many gamers have been upset that the latest version of Microsoft's DirectX software and drivers, DirectX10, requires Windows Vista in order to run. Microsoft has argued that because DirectX10 was such a massive redesign of the overall driver model, it was not possible to retrofit it to run on Windows XP. One of the arguments supporting this was the fact that DirectX10 required graphics memory to be virtualizable—that is, swappable for system RAM if the on-board video card RAM became full.

However, NVIDIA has had difficulty making virtualization work on their Vista graphics drivers, so Microsoft has now made GPU virtualization optional for DX10. Charlie Demerjian over at the Inquirer is arguing that this means there is no valid technical reason why DirectX10 couldn't be back-ported to Windows XP.

Of course, there was never a reason that implementing DirectX10 on XP was technically impossible, just that Microsoft felt that the engineering and testing effort to retrofit the new driver model to the old operating system was more than the company was willing to expend, particularly as DirectX10 was touted as one of the major benefits of upgrading to Windows Vista. However, the PC gaming market has been slow to embrace Vista and so Microsoft may have to reconsider this decision in the future.

Source: Here

Hmmm.. I'm sure you'll have another one of your twisted explanations for this.

R U a DirectX developer? no seriously if u r have a look at the SDK & what will DX 10.1 bring to table. 99.9999999999% Features of DX 10.1 are same with DX 10. The only change is in efficiency & how work is done. There is no quality difference between DX 10 & DX 10.1, its only how the code is executed bringing more efficiency

Then why upgrade to 10.1??? Then why even 10.1 let alone upgrade??

See, you're digging your own grave by proving what we have been saying all along!! forced upgrades from MS has been and will be useless!! When will you learn kiddo?

Face it, you are just ProMS and can't digest the growth of Open Source software and will defend MS with everything... hmm.. I wonder why..
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[infra_red_dude]

OMG iMav wont let me become a pope..lols

Ok you are saying that M$ developed DX10 then they realized that DX10 can't be implemented in XP so they made windows VISTA.And since nobody would have purchased just XP+DX10 support so they also added some eyecandy.Is this what are you trying to say?

in a way yes! coz to the common man, this is all that matters!

Plz read the conversation between me & IRD on the previous page about this Porject first.

yep, its not that MS can't backport dx10 to XP; its that they DON'T want to! and since MS is out there to do business, i don't think anything is wrong with that. from a business point of view, i support this. from a customer's point of view i don't.

but then thats one of the reasons why MS may lost out. ppl will not like to use forced software. they will look for alternatives when forced (i'm NOT talking about DX and games here as everyone knows this is where MS rules the roost!)

 

[iMav]

HiH be prepared for a good know how on how dx actually works

 

[gxsaurav]

DX 10.1 is a free software upgrade with Vista SP1. Where do u see Microsoft forcing it?

DX 10.1 is there cos it brings more efficiency. U do know about how softwares works. don't u?

 

[shantanu]

thread will remain open till any other mods or admins closes it.. and Please dont pm me regarding this thread.. because members think i was biased with my decision..

 

[praka123]

nice!let the thread be open.just have a closed eye on this thread and any other M$ related thread too.the "other" side cant tolerate and feel biased.


reg DX10.1,do u pro-ms ppl justify that it is a gr8 update
now how nvidia&amd will come with 8800++ edition for the gfx cards and again upgradation and all are justified under the name of M$.
^now this is wht they can do as a monopoly

 

[infra_red_dude]

thanks for reopening the thread, shan

guys, plz no flaming... let everyone show respect for every other member and let there be a healthy discussion