7 Reasons Why Microsoft is Doomed!

[iMav]

prakash u still havent replied to my question about monopoly ... if ms feels that drm is making them loose major ground they will do something abt it but as u have finally accepted to an extent that its not MS but other forces forcing ms to implement drm ... and again yaar why is drm such an issue ... its not bothering india right now and having said i know u will show me yash raj music launching drm content but again i may remind u it wasnt for sales in india

 

[praka123]

Monopoly of M$?-it is like reliance ambanis or tata's are asked to take care of India totally and hell to go with democracy-this way m$ is a monopoly in OS market.ppl & countries shud ban Microsoft products or atleast discourage the use of windows OS alternately use Linux or any available options even MAC(dont care).let a governing body(democratic way) who cannot be influenced by M$ or big corporations to be here that be maintaining a balance of OS share.(atleast my state is trying to do that.thx to RMS visited CM of Kerala).
DRM is Digital Restrictions Management-users are forced to limit their usage of their purchased songs or videos by the monopoly m$ and the RIAA& co .
on this trail,these corps dont care for the right of fair use of a person.
also heard that Vista's big system requirements are due to for the controlling of DRM effectively and SP1 too will be mostly a DRM update.

 

[shantanu]

@praka : what you consider you post ?

Just let the users here,even a fraction atleast just let them know that microsoft and windows are not praised and worshipped as the three geniuses are trying to force on you.
One word-let the monopoly of microsoft shattered,the world will be much better with a lot of options and more stable Platforms.
By the time ppl knew that what Vista with DRM means-it will be a big shock for average user.not blaming microsoft alone all those music rights groups in the name of fair use are really limiting the ppl from using Vista with DRM(proteced_video_path ).
the same case is with Nokia too.once they became a monopoly,things can be a little difficult to have the mobile platform remain as of now.nokia too can act as microsoft way of monopoly.thx to SE i hope atleast mobile platform be free of these big demons.
Monopolies at any field means users(you!) are forced to use whatever they pressurize on you directly or indirectly(microsoft Vista os as an eg)
Many ppl see Bill gates as a genius-but i see him as a good marketer.
Bill gates pushed the software licence crap model.otherwise OSS movement shud have grown much more than what @1980's RMS envisaged.
anti-trust-this word is linked with the genius's company from the day it gained popularity.

*desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070831/BUSINESS/70831027/-1/LIFE04
Analysis: DRM may be why Microsoft flip-flopped on Vista virtualization
Did the company's entertainment industry partners get cranky?

^^^

 

[praka123]

^no offense.but this is what i clearly want to let people knows.everyone shud keep their affenity to a platform to be minimal.that way we can get the anger and fanboyism be gone.
I hope tolerance must be prevailed.afterall for some some companies or countries are gr8.for some we research what is wrong with them?that's what i did.there is nothing to flame for.just opins here.not bashing.just showing what is my personal opin after going through the www and using alternate OS Linux.

 

[iMav]

prakash im still awaitng an answer to my question on who is a monopoly

 

[shantanu]

its good to be open -minded.. expressing your views.. but here at forums the words we write are the face we use ... so i think the better words you use , the better you will be expressed..

yeah sure no offense... it wont be to me ever...

 

[praka123]

prakash im still awaitng an answer to my question on who is a monopoly

Monopoly here means Microsoft.Microsoft is a monopoly.Koi shak?
what i want to convey is People can think that there are other options here too which the savvy or normal computer users can consider.FOSS movement is such a movement.

Monopoly Mo*nop"o*ly, n.; pl. Monopolies. [L. monopolium,
Gr. ?, ?; mo`nos alone + ? to sell.]
1. The exclusive power, or privilege of selling a commodity;
the exclusive power, right, or privilege of dealing in
some article, or of trading in some market; sole command
of the traffic in anything, however obtained; as, the
proprietor of a patented article is given a monopoly of
its sale for a limited time; chartered trading companies
have sometimes had a monopoly of trade with remote
regions; a combination of traders may get a monopoly of a
particular product.
[1913 Webster]

^in case there is alternate meaning for monopoly in Indian English.MSFT is such a monopoly-clear?
I am considering out of this thread coz what i want to convey is already told.enjoy!

 

[iMav]

i cant seem to find my post but i remmber iv posted it quite a few times ... with regards to u calling ms a monopoly:

i know of a company that makes hardware and software but the problem is that they ensure that any hardware upgrade made is from their company only, they make pmps and they dont allow u to freely use it they dont allow u to transfer music from the player to the comp only vice versa (unles ua 3rd par app is used) not only that they use open source as their back bone and dont even thank it

what ever hardware they make they ensure it looks and feels the same unless u get down to hack it now as compared to this i would say ms is till better off
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and thanx for the lecture in english

 

[Help~Is~Here]

prakash im still awaitng an answer to my question on who is a monopoly

I know why you have been constantly pestering him with that question. You want to prove to him that MAC is more of a monopoly than Microsoft. What you want to say, which you earlier did in another thread is that MAC is forcing people to use hardware and sofware they don't want or cannot upgrade unlike MS. Firstly, no one is specifically pointing at MAC. We are talking about open source and free and cheaper alternatives. Please don't start a Windows v/s MAC thread here.

He has already answered your question several times about monopoly, if you aren't still sure what monopoly means.

Monopoly:
1> exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market, or a control that makes possible the manipulation of prices
2.> the market condition that exists when there is only one seller.

I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain how or what kind of monopoly microsoft is trying to create. But if you can relate the above 2 meanings to MS, that means, it's a monopoly unlike IBM, Novell, Linux OS

 

[iMav]

i requested u to answer a post of mine but didnt rather u chose to answer another post of mine directed to another member and then u say u wont waste time ...

and u say control of prices y is open source worried abt prices controlled by ms ... oss is free they shud say we giv a damn abt ms's pricing policy .... and again how abt replying to the post no. 9 of this thread ...

 

[Help~Is~Here]

With every windows upgrade, you end up changing hardware to be compatible, existing hardware is not compatible and what not? MS forces the users to throw their existing hardware withing even sometimes hardly 3 months once they bought it. Take the example of directX. Microsoft has made a lot of money of this one sigle product, making revisions when ever they feel like not keeping the customer in mind that he will need to go get new hardware for it.

How many times have you had problem pluggin in your existing hardware to a new version of MAC OS which can be updated without even upgrading you computer. Or, how many times do you need to change hardware when you move from one version of linux to the other.

Here is where MS hidden monoploly is. It blindfolds the user into believing that the new technology is a lot better than the existing one and fool them into buying new hardware on which they too make a profit out of. We have seen enough cases of this already, and example being Vista. One question, why would you ever want to upgrade from WinXP to Vista? Why? Only one answer! DX10!! and who created that? MS. MS itself is trying to create a market scenario for selling it's own product by cheating the end user. That is what monopoly is if you still don't understand.

i requested u to answer a post of mine but didnt rather u chose to answer another post of mine directed to another member and then u say u wont waste time ...

and u say control of prices y is open source worried abt prices controlled by ms ... oss is free they shud say we giv a damn abt ms's pricing policy .... and again how abt replying to the post no. 9 of this thread ...

Dude, I've already answered your question. This is why they call MS users blind

Go back and check my previous posts, you can find your answer to the Web2.0 question. Post#38 I guess.. lol... what to do with these guys... lol... And please, if you have something good to say, please do rather than these one liners

 

[iMav]

well i dont know about which computer u use but i have installed vista on the same machine i installed xp on when i bought it ... my rig is 4 years old only upgrade made is hdd and i installed vista on it without any issue .... and also tell me ... at no point of time can either software go forward or hardware go forward they both have to go together .... when 95 came no said o! **** ms has come with a new os now every1 will have to buy new computers ... the thing is if theres advancement in sofware there has to be harware to compliment it ... ms hasnt forced me to throw my existing hardware ... that statement of urs is baseless

ya i have replied to ur web 2.0 already .... u cited 7 points and i answered al,most all of em but u replied only to 1 .... now blindness and ignorance ... whats more prevalent here

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

Egxactly.

Monopolist and communist can never survive more than a couple of decade.They live aristocratic but die like street dogs.

I say it again Open source and sharing is the future.That is why ubuntu releaseas their amazing distro almost 2 times a year and microsoft takes 4-5 year to develop crap like vista.

@shantanu:thanks for starting the thread again.

 

[iMav]

@shantanu: me, help~is~here and prakash have had a civilised conversation after the thread re-opening ... but the abv post is sheer flame and provocative ... please do something abt it so that the thread isnt locked again and we can continue our discussion

 

[Help~Is~Here]

ya i have replied to ur web 2.0 already .... u cited 7 points and i answered al,most all of em but u replied only to 1 .... now blindness and ignorance ... whats more prevalent here

Dude, are you trying to get into an argument to get this thread closed? If so, I'm not falling for your jokes! I would say blindness for you still prevails than my ignorance, because I answered all the other question in different/several posts while your post#9 was relevant to Web2.0, so I answered it.

Am telling you agian iMav, if you have something good to say please do, rather than keeping on pointing to silly pointless one liner things and saying that no one answered your question. More or less amounts to thread crapping and provoking flaming. So, please.

@shantanu: me, help~is~here and prakash have had a civilised conversation after the thread re-opening ... but the abv post is sheer flame and provocative ... please do something abt it so that the thread isnt locked again and we can continue our discussion

Provoking flaming! Post reported

Egxactly.

Monopolist and communist can never survive more than a couple of decade.They live aristocratic but die like street dogs.

I say it again Open source and sharing is the future.That is why ubuntu releaseas their amazing distro almost 2 times a year and microsoft takes 4-5 year to develop crap like vista.

@shantanu:thanks for starting the thread again.

^^ I don't get where flaming or provocation is in this??

 

[iMav]

i want to read what u have said .... so now what were the other reasons u said .... i think zune point is also cleared next yeah i havent seen the surface on sale so dont know from where the author has claimed it to be a doom point for ms ... what else is there ... friends .... some go new come .... indian poilitics is a perfect example of how frenz are made and left .... anything else to say why ms will doom

 

[Help~Is~Here]

i want to read what u have said .... so now what were the other reasons u said .... i think zune point is also cleared next yeah i havent seen the surface on sale so dont know from where the author has claimed it to be a doom point for ms ... what else is there ... friends .... some go new come .... indian poilitics is a perfect example of how frenz are made and left .... anything else to say why ms will doom

First of all, stop taking it personally that "MS Doom" is something very offensive. Grow up, this is a world of competition and people will say bad things about bad companies that have been following bad customer manners..

Surface computers are already in sale in the US if you are not aware and don't be dreaming that they will come to India or that you can buy one. They might come to India but won't be affordable or useful for a normal consumer. It's a revolution in interface, that all, nothing new in computing! And people that are going to be using it will only be hotels/casinos/high end customer interactive businesses.

The zune is already a failure, I've hardly ever heard of people talking or marketing about it although I know such a product exist and that it has been in the market for a long time. Sony's new video walkman is again just going to overshadow it and zune is going to eat the dust sooner or later.

Please don't compare politics with the IT/Computer industry, that's like comparing the BPL Indian to a high tech geek! Learn to make your similarities where it matters.

 

[iMav]

u started this topic about Microsoft is Doomed! and i want to know how ....

 

[shantanu]

First of all, stop taking it personally that "MS Doom" is something very offensive. Grow up, this is a world of competition and people will say bad things about bad companies that have been following bad customer manners..

Surface computers are already in sale in the US if you are not aware and don't be dreaming that they will come to India or that you can buy one. They might come to India but won't be affordable or useful for a normal consumer. It's a revolution in interface, that all, nothing new in computing! And people that are going to be using it will only be hotels/casinos/high end customer interactive businesses.

so Microsoft is a bad company with bad customer manners ?

please answer this !

 

[iMav]

Please don't compare politics with the IT/Computer industry - that is where u dont understand a simple fact that business today in the corporate world is politics .... u have to join hands for ur benefti and u even have to break alliances for ur benefit ... people cheat in the corporate world ... ur first person who says that business/corporate world isnt like politics ...

and what do u try to imply by the fact that i cant buy a surface ... surface isnt new in computing so how does it spell doom for ms ... surface is something new a totaly new segment in which ms has ventured its a new device .... and u say hotels and high end customers are gonna buy it then u say it will spell doom for ms kya bol rahe ho yaar ... any thing luxry is selling like hot cakes .... ferari is high end customers ... and ferrair is doomed ... porsche is high end i didnt know porsche is doomed