30k Desktop for 3D animation.

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My friend wants to buy a desktop within 30k.He will use it mainly for 3d animation softs like maya3d & graphic designing.Please suggest appropriate config. including motherboard,RAM, graphic card, monitor,mouse etc. as im not keeping up with current tech market trends:)he'll be buying it from nehru place,delhi..so suggest a shop too.
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
For running 3D application you need to have good multi-core processor, good amount of ram, and a decent Graphics card. At 30k budget my suggestion will be an AMD platform which will satisfy all your needs as well as good for gaming and other stuffs.

Here goes the config
Athlon II X4 620 2.6GHz @ 5.8k
Biostar TA785GE 128M @ 4.3k
Kingston 2X2GB DDR2 800MHz RAM @ 2k
Palit 9800GT 1GB GDDR3 @ 6.7k
or Sapphire HD4850 1GB GDDR3 @ 7.4k
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @ 2.5k
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 @ 0.9k
BenQ G900WD 19" LCD Monitor @ 6.4k
Zebronics Bijli Cabinet@ 1.5K
Zebronics 550W Pro @ 2.8k


The price is around 32k. This config will good for 3D work and as well as for above average gaming. For graphics card section, my suggestion is a Nvidia card because a lot of 3D applications support nvidia CUDA technology, which gives u serius performance boost. Alternatively you can go for the XFX 9600GSO 768MB DDR2 @ 4.2k, which is a cheaper alternative. This card is a special edition card having 96 stream processors compared to the 64 processors in normal 9600 cards. It is the best buy card in Digit August issue.
 

Cool G5

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The above config is good but I think he should get altleast 22" LCD as he needs this for 3D work which requires a good amount of screen space. He can settle for a local cabinet which should not cost more than Rs. 500 to get a bigger LCD. Further he can save on getting a normal Logitech Keyboard + Mouse combo which will cost not more than Rs.700.
 
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Ihatemyself

Ihatemyself

What?
he wants a good 22" monitor . so i guess we'll have to compromise the quality of cabinet and keyboard. any monitor recommendations( viewing angles must be good!!)
 

furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
@OP

Get Dell S2209W @ 10.5k(You need to increase ur budget,mean,ur friend:mrgreen:)
or
Samsung 2233SW @ 9.2k

For gfx, get the 9800GT as it has the PhysX and CUDA over the HD4850.
 

Cool G5

Conversation Architect
For monitor go with Samsung 2233SW, a good value for money 22' Full HD LCD Monitor.
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
Don't go for gaming GPU if you wanna do 3D design etc. Look for these:

ATI FireGL V3600
ATI FireGL™ V5600
Quadro NVS 295
Quadro NVS 420.

V3600 and NVS295 should be avialable inside 7k.

seriously speaking, 30k is not enough for a workstation setup.

Q9300: 10.5k
Gigabyte G41 mobo: 4.5k-5k or P45 based mobo: 6k
NVS295 PCI-express X16 GDDR3 RAM : 6.5k-7k
Corsair XMS2 2X2GB DDR2 800MHz RAM @ 2.5k-3k
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @ 2.5k
Logitech normal k/b: 350 bucks
Logitech/Microsoft Laser mouse: 1000 bucks
Samsung 2033SW :7k or 2233SW: 9.5k
Zebronics Bijli Cabinet@ 1.5K
Corsair VX450W: 4k

This is the minimum recommended config for 3D design. Yes, it does overshoot the budget but ....
 

Krow

Crowman
^Why not core i5 750 @ 10.5k and Gigabyte P55-UD2M @ 7.2k or the Intel DP55WB @ 6.6k? DDR3 RAM should also help in his work, should it not? IMO core i5, at the same price is much better than the Core 2 architecture.
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
^^yes. it's a much better option and is recommended setup. Let's see if the OP is ready to increase the budget :)

here are three different setups, one dual core, one core2quad and one core i5.

setup 1:

AMD Athlon II X4 630: 5.5k-6k
Gigabyte or ASUS 780G board: 4.5k or Gigabyte 785G : 5.5k
Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800MHz 2x2GB : 2.5k-3k or Transcend DDR3 1333MHz 2x2Gb: 4k-4.5k
NVS295 PCI-express X16 GDDR3 RAM : 6.5k-7k or ATI FireGL™ V3600: 7.5k or ATI FireGL™ V3700: 5.6k-6k
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @ 2.5k
Logitech normal k/b: 350 bucks
Logitech/Microsoft Laser mouse: 1000 bucks
Samsung 2033SW :7k
Zebronics Bijli Cabinet@ 1.5K
Corsair ExtremePower 500W: 2.5k


setup 2:

Q9300: 10.5k
Gigabyte G41 mobo: 4.5k-5k or P45 based mobo: 6k
NVS295 PCI-express X16 GDDR3 RAM : 6.5k-7k or ATI FireGL™ V3600: 7.5k or ATI FireGL™ V3700: 5.6k-6k
Corsair XMS2 2X2GB DDR2 800MHz RAM @ 2.5k-3k
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @ 2.5k
Logitech normal k/b: 350 bucks
Logitech/Microsoft Laser mouse: 1000 bucks
Samsung 2033SW :7k or 2233SW: 9.5k
Zebronics Bijli Cabinet@ 1.5K
Corsair VX450W: 4k or GlacialPower 650AA:4.5k (look for model 650AA and not 650A)

setup 3:

Core i5 750: 11k
Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2: 7.5k
NVS295 PCI-express X16 GDDR3 RAM : 6.5k-7k or ATI FireGL™ V3600: 7.5k or ATI FireGL™ V3700: 5.6k-6k
Corsair XMS2 2X2GB DDR2 800MHz RAM @ 2.5k-3k
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @ 2.5k
Logitech normal k/b: 350 bucks
Logitech/Microsoft Laser mouse: 1000 bucks
Samsung 2033SW :7k or 2233SW: 9.5k
Zebronics Bijli Cabinet@ 1.5K
Corsair VX450W: 4k or GlacialPower 650AA:4.5k (look for model 650AA and not 650A)
 
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Krow

Crowman
Nicely put desii. In setup 1 its CoolerMaster Extreme power and not corsair. :) Why not recommend GlacialPower 650@ 4.5k in setup 2 or 3? Future proof if op can extend his budget. :)
 

Cilus

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Guys, 3D working does not mean you need a super computer. Working in Maya or 3D Studio Max or Blender does not need a fortune to build a computer.
Sure Desibond's suggestions (2 and 3)are much better option and more future proof, but it is far greater than a 30k budget(more than 40k). Here we have to suggest the optimum solution for price and performance as per the budget mentioned.

In the 1st solution suggested by Desibond, I think Phenom II X2 545 is not suitable because it is a dual core processor. Today's most of the 3d software are multithreaded and multi-core aware. So more the number of processor cores, more performance can be gained. Same holds true for Audio-Video encoding and editing software. So a Quad core is a minimum requirement.
 

hellknight

BSD init pwns System V
@ihatemyself.. you seriously need a dedicated 3D Graphics card such as FX Quadro or FireGL.. ask your friend to increase the budget by 10k and one hell of an awesome system will be created...
 

comp@ddict

EXIT: DATA Junkyard
Athlon II X4 620 2.6GHz @ 6k
Biostar A785G @ 3.6k
Kingston 2X2GB DDR2 800MHz RAM @ 2.4k
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB @ 2.6k
Logitech kbd/mouse combo @ 1k
BenQ G2220HD @ 8.6k
Zebronics Krish @ 1k
Gigabyte 460W Active @ 2.5k

Get:-
Palit/Zotac 9800GT 512MB GDDR3 @ 6k
or
Sapphire HD4770 512MB GDDR5 Artic Cooling(non-reference) @ 7.4k

Choice is yours, but both are EXCELLENT cards.....and don't go for a QUADRO...instead take the nVidia card and softmod it into a QUADRO..i'll even show you how if you want.
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
^^That doesn't work always.

The following is taken from a post in gamespot:

now there have always been softmod that you could do on a mainstream graphic card that can make it a workstation one like a geforce to quadro and a radeon 9800 to a firexl through freefirexl but you wouldnt see the perfromance increase and would be bugged continously by its drivers.these workstation cards offer features like occulsion culling,lossless depth z-buffer,line anti-alaising,accelarated clip region,clip planes.two sided lighting,opengl logic and overlay planes.a quadro for example can achieve 80 million lit and textured triangles per second fillrate.they also carry third generation vertex and pixel programibility.here is a qute from the manufacturers"Alias|Wavefront, Discreet, Softimage, and more. End users can take full advantage of the programmable NVIDIA Quadro FX architecture by enabling sophisticated real-time shaders to simulate a virtually unlimited range of physica l characteristics, such as lighting effects (fresnel effects, chromatic dispersion, reflection, refraction, BRDF models*, etc.) and even physical surface properties (such as casting effects, porosity, molded surfaces, etc.).

*www.techspot.com/vb/all/windows/t-23018-Graphic-Cards-Workstation-vs-Gaming.html
 

Krow

Crowman
^Exactly. If it were that easy, then no one would buy Quadro/FireGL. Nice link desii. A very knowledgeable post by that guy.
 
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