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[Gollum]

Thanks, I had the same fear of it, but as I was reading in some articles that OLED tech nowadays has grown resistant to the Burn-in issues, I was getting confused.
Still the configurable models I was seeing in Lenovo, though the difference in Price from IPS to OLED was only a few thousands, all OLED screens were Glossy as well, no Matt or Anti-glare. I can skip on the additional 3Y warranty as I wanted to get it only for OLED, but as you say, it'd have been pointless in that case.
So I'll go with IPS itself as I wanna use it for at least next 5 years.
One such model in my mind now - *www.lenovo.com/in/en/p/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-500-series/lenovo-ideapad-pro-5i-gen-9-(14-inch-intel)/83d2cto1wwin1

I would avoid Lenovo unless it's an expensive model. Get a screen with either 8bit panel or 100%srgb coverage.

 

[ezio16]

@omega44-xt
Thanks. Really, Ryzen 7840U is indeed a very good one compared to U7 155H, but HP has a history of bad hinges and I was told to avoid them, that's why didn't even bother to look into HP models.
I'll wait till the sale for sure.

 

[ezio16]

I would avoid Lenovo unless it's an expensive model. Get a screen with either 8bit panel or 100%srgb coverage.

Okay sure, i'll search further.
I went with Lenovo as only their models had many customization options and price was lesser than other brands.
Man, shortlisting the laptop is so hard with the options now, that's why Lenovo's customization was a bit satisfying to fit our needs.
I wish Framework laptops were available in India.

 

[vidhubhushan]

I would avoid Lenovo unless it's an expensive model. Get a screen with either 8bit panel or 100%srgb coverage.

our experience is entirely different. sister is using a lenovo (rs.24000) having intel n series cpu 4gb ram for over 6 years. i added a sdd some 3 years back. it worked fine till 6 months back when it started some issue with many keys.

 

[omega44-xt]

@omega44-xt
Thanks. Really, Ryzen 7840U is indeed a very good one compared to U7 155H, but HP has a history of bad hinges and I was told to avoid them, that's why didn't even bother to look into HP models.
I'll wait till the sale for sure.

Your call

 

[Gollum]

our experience is entirely different. sister is using a lenovo (rs.24000) having intel n series cpu 4gb ram for over 6 years. i added a sdd some 3 years back. it worked fine till 6 months back when it started some issue with many keys.

[Begin longpost]I always tell my friends that in the end these devices are just machines. They will either work fine for years or give problems from the start.

For the same reason you mentioned, I bought my wife a Lenovo laptop a few years ago. It's plastics are much more stronger than the hp but it has a terrible IPS screen.
To her its perfectly fine but I cannot unsee the backlight bleed, the 1 soldered RAM, the inability of the m.2 slot to run sata SSD, mobile phone like charger with a 1mt wire.

In comparison, my hp has no backlight bleed, 2 user accessible ram slots, m.2 that can run both nvme and sata and an AC adapter that can be connected to the other room.

Both laptops are 7 years old now. Both work. Both have the same CPU. Only one works much faster than the other and has a more capacity. You can take a guess which one.

I would suggest you to check the lenovo website for a service guide for the model of laptop you have narrowed down. It will help you understand it's upgrade capability and repairabilty.
[End long post]

 

[vidhubhushan]

[Begin longpost]I always tell my friends that in the end these devices are just machines. They will either work fine for years or give problems from the start.

For the same reason you mentioned, I bought my wife a Lenovo laptop a few years ago. It's plastics are much more stronger than the hp but it has a terrible IPS screen.
To her its perfectly fine but I cannot unsee the backlight bleed, the 1 soldered RAM, the inability of the m.2 slot to run sata SSD, mobile phone like charger with a 1mt wire.

In comparison, my hp has no backlight bleed, 2 user accessible ram slots, m.2 that can run both nvme and sata and an AC adapter that can be connected to the other room.

Both laptops are 7 years old now. Both work. Both have the same CPU. Only one works much faster than the other and has a more capacity. You can take a guess which one.

I would suggest you to check the lenovo website for a service guide for the model of laptop you have narrowed down. It will help you understand it's upgrade capability and repairabilty.
[End long post]

we have no brand preference because as said earlier, device experience is good for lenovo and service experience of one hp service center is good for a compaq laptop of someone used for some 2 years (in 2008) and overall experience of device as well as service of dell used by a close friend. thanks. last time @whitestar_999 suggested a intel based lenovo which i got expecting a 3 year stint max. this time @omega44-xt is suggesting a hp which again i will get expecting a 3 year stint max. thanks friend.

 

[SaiyanGoku]

Any chances of consumer laptops getting oculink port in near future?
With Nvidia nerfing laptop GPUs, I think getting something on mid to low end to save costs and then getting oculink dock with a good GPU would be the best approach IMO for gaming laptops.

 

[omega44-xt]

Any chances of consumer laptops getting oculink port in near future?
With Nvidia nerfing laptop GPUs, I think getting something on mid to low end to save costs and then getting oculink dock with a good GPU would be the best approach IMO for gaming laptops.

First time I'm hearing about it, so likely no is the answer

 

[TheSloth]

Yeah same. Even if it comes, the cost of such feature would be very high for being niche.

 

[RumbaMon19]

*in.store.asus.com/rog/gaming-laptop-rog-zephyrus-g14-ga402nj-l8094ws.html

• Processor: 7000 Series, AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile Processor (8-core/16-thread, 16MB L3 cache, up to 4.7 GHz Max Boost)
• Memory: 16GB DDR5 RAM (8GB DDR5 on board + 8GB DDR5-4800 SO-DIMaM) expandable upto 24GB using 1x SO-DIMM slot
• Storage: 512GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
• Graphics: MUX Switch 6GB GDDR6 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU (ROG Boost: 1782MHz* at 95W (1732MHz Boost Clock+50MHz OC, 80W+15W Dynamic Boost)* || *The testing conditions were set in a laboratory environment with a controlled ambient temperature of 25±2°C. Results were obtained by testing with FurMark. Real world performance may vary.)
• Display: 35.56cm (14) QHD+ (2560 x 1600, WQXGA) Anti-glare display || 16:10 Aspect Ratio || 165Hz Refresh Rate || 500nits Brightness || 3ms Response Time (G2G) || ROG Nebula Display

For Rs 94,990.

Thoughts on this @omega44-xt ?

I liked the thin and light build of the laptop.

 

[omega44-xt]

**in.store.asus.com/rog/gaming-laptop-rog-zephyrus-g14-ga402nj-l8094ws.html

• Processor: 7000 Series, AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile Processor (8-core/16-thread, 16MB L3 cache, up to 4.7 GHz Max Boost)
• Memory: 16GB DDR5 RAM (8GB DDR5 on board + 8GB DDR5-4800 SO-DIMaM) expandable upto 24GB using 1x SO-DIMM slot
• Storage: 512GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
• Graphics: MUX Switch 6GB GDDR6 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU (ROG Boost: 1782MHz* at 95W (1732MHz Boost Clock+50MHz OC, 80W+15W Dynamic Boost)* || *The testing conditions were set in a laboratory environment with a controlled ambient temperature of 25±2°C. Results were obtained by testing with FurMark. Real world performance may vary.)
• Display: 35.56cm (14) QHD+ (2560 x 1600, WQXGA) Anti-glare display || 16:10 Aspect Ratio || 165Hz Refresh Rate || 500nits Brightness || 3ms Response Time (G2G) || ROG Nebula Display

For Rs 94,990.

Thoughts on this @omega44-xt ?

I liked the thin and light build of the laptop.

If you really want a 14" gaming laptop, ok deal. Performance is very bad compared to R7 7840HS + 4060 laptops.

 

[Nerevarine]

**in.store.asus.com/rog/gaming-laptop-rog-zephyrus-g14-ga402nj-l8094ws.html

• Processor: 7000 Series, AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile Processor (8-core/16-thread, 16MB L3 cache, up to 4.7 GHz Max Boost)
• Memory: 16GB DDR5 RAM (8GB DDR5 on board + 8GB DDR5-4800 SO-DIMaM) expandable upto 24GB using 1x SO-DIMM slot
• Storage: 512GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
• Graphics: MUX Switch 6GB GDDR6 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU (ROG Boost: 1782MHz* at 95W (1732MHz Boost Clock+50MHz OC, 80W+15W Dynamic Boost)* || *The testing conditions were set in a laboratory environment with a controlled ambient temperature of 25±2°C. Results were obtained by testing with FurMark. Real world performance may vary.)
• Display: 35.56cm (14) QHD+ (2560 x 1600, WQXGA) Anti-glare display || 16:10 Aspect Ratio || 165Hz Refresh Rate || 500nits Brightness || 3ms Response Time (G2G) || ROG Nebula Display

For Rs 94,990.

Thoughts on this @omega44-xt ?

I liked the thin and light build of the laptop.

Dont fall for this trap, only consider this if you walk around A LOT carrying your laptop.

 

[RumbaMon19]

If you really want a 14" gaming laptop, ok deal. Performance is very bad compared to R7 7840HS + 4060 laptops.

Dont fall for this trap, only consider this if you walk around A LOT carrying your laptop.

Guess will manage then.
Ignoring Size and weight, any suggestions for something from asus which has R7 with RTX3050/4050? I need a basic GFX card to run YOLO programs only, I dont game. For CPU I would prefer R7 and upgradeable ram upto 32 GB.

How are Intel 13th gen chips doing? Any recommendations from there?

Would only be buying asus as I have some coupons for it. Suggest in the budget range 80-90K.

Would buy offline by the end of next week.

 

[omega44-xt]

Guess will manage then.
Ignoring Size and weight, any suggestions for something from asus which has R7 with RTX3050/4050? I need a basic GFX card to run YOLO programs only, I dont game. For CPU I would prefer R7 and upgradeable ram upto 32 GB.

How are Intel 13th gen chips doing? Any recommendations from there?

Would only be buying asus as I have some coupons for it. Suggest in the budget range 80-90K.

Would buy offline by the end of next week.

Find R7 7840HS LOQ with 3050 or 4050 under 80k (latter is much better):
www.amazon.in/Lenovo-Powered-7840HS-350Nits-82XT004HIN/dp/B0CR1J1ML9

Better build:
www.flipkart.com/lenovo-legion-slim-5-ai-powered-amd-ryzen-7-octa-core-7840hs-16-gb-512-gb-ssd-windows-11-home-6-graphics-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4050-16aph8-gaming-laptop/p/itm244a900efce6a?pid=COMGSVFE3SQMGPVZ

On sale HP Omen 7840HS + 4060 was 90k before 15 Aug. Avoid Intel 13th & 14th gen, might have same issues as desktop ones. Intel hid the issue in desktop parts for so long.

 

[RumbaMon19]

*www.hp.com/in-en/shop/victus-gaming-laptop-15-fb2114ax-a85sgpa.html

A friend is locking in this laptop to buy, but has a few general questions,

1) In the specs, they have not mentioned "Soldered" anywhere with the ram. It's mentioned 2*8GB DDR5 RAM so is it safe to assume that it can be later upgraded to 2*16GB=32GB config?

2) The processor is Ryzen™ 7 8845HS, Does this processor have iGPU? Basically when not using the dGPU will the graphics run on iGPU? As if dGPU will be running always it is bad for battery life. Does it have that Mux thing?


3) How is the quality of HP's Victus lineup? Anything to keep in mind?

@omega44-xt and others please help.

 

[omega44-xt]

**www.hp.com/in-en/shop/victus-gaming-laptop-15-fb2114ax-a85sgpa.html

A friend is locking in this laptop to buy, but has a few general questions,

1) In the specs, they have not mentioned "Soldered" anywhere with the ram. It's mentioned 2*8GB DDR5 RAM so is it safe to assume that it can be later upgraded to 2*16GB=32GB config?

2) The processor is Ryzen™ 7 8845HS, Does this processor have iGPU? Basically when not using the dGPU will the graphics run on iGPU? As if dGPU will be running always it is bad for battery life. Does it have that Mux thing?


3) How is the quality of HP's Victus lineup? Anything to keep in mind?

@omega44-xt and others please help.

1. Victus has swappable RAM, check reviews

2. Yes, iGPU is present, might not have MUX as Victus is a budget laptop

3. Victus is a budget gaming laptop, build quality is not good for 90k, nor is 4050

For gaming, get a RTX 4060 laptop. Since main sale is done, no great option, so decide what to sacrifice.

*www.flipkart.com/lenovo-loq-amd-ryzen-7-octa-core-7435hs-24-gb-512-gb-ssd-windows-11-home-8-graphics-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-15arp9-gaming-laptop/p/itm1ca3912e19cb2?pid=COMHFYZ3ZSHR7J5F
Seems 76k with card offers, CPU is inferior for sure but gaming performance will be much better than 8845HS + 4050. Battery life will take a hit because of lack of iGPU but that helps boost gaming performance over non-MUX 4060 laptops by 10%. Also many games need 16GB RAM as minimum, also 8GB VRAM.

If you see HP Omen with 7840HS + 4060 for 90-95k with card offers, grab that ASAP. There is no difference between 7840HS & 8845HS.

 

[Gollum]

**www.hp.com/in-en/shop/victus-gaming-laptop-15-fb2114ax-a85sgpa.html

A friend is locking in this laptop to buy, but has a few general questions,

1) In the specs, they have not mentioned "Soldered" anywhere with the ram. It's mentioned 2*8GB DDR5 RAM so is it safe to assume that it can be later upgraded to 2*16GB=32GB config?

2) The processor is Ryzen™ 7 8845HS, Does this processor have iGPU? Basically when not using the dGPU will the graphics run on iGPU? As if dGPU will be running always it is bad for battery life. Does it have that Mux thing?


3) How is the quality of HP's Victus lineup? Anything to keep in mind?

@omega44-xt and others please help.

To upgrade the Ram you will have to replace the existing Ram. So look for a laptop that has a single stick of Ram.
Victus does not have any physical build quality issues @omega44-xt . Can you elaborate what issues you're taking about?

All hp laptops have a service guide on the hp website and you can view the internal structure and heatpipe design before buying.

Omen laptops have better heat sink design when compared to victus.

If you need performance test numbers on any hp laptop/desktop, let me know. I may be able to test and share the results. e.g., FPS, battery life and temperature.

 

[omega44-xt]

To upgrade the Ram you will have to replace the existing Ram. So look for a laptop that has a single stick of Ram.
Victus does not have any physical build quality issues @omega44-xt . Can you elaborate what issues you're taking about?

All hp laptops have a service guide on the hp website and you can view the internal structure and heatpipe design before buying.

Omen laptops have better heat sink design when compared to victus.

If you need performance test numbers on any hp laptop/desktop, let me know. I may be able to test and share the results. e.g., FPS, battery life and temperature.

Wobbly hinge is a common issue in Victus, check Jarrod Tech review + many users have complained the same (doesn't affect functionality for sure). It is fine for a sub 70k laptop, not expected from a 90k laptop. So LOQ is considered better built, in that regard. For 90k+, I'd ideally want HP Omen or Lenovo Legion.

 

[Gollum]

Wobbly hinge is a common issue in Victus, check Jarrod Tech review + many users have complained the same (doesn't affect functionality for sure). It is fine for a sub 70k laptop, not expected from a 90k laptop. So LOQ is considered better built, in that regard. For 90k+, I'd ideally want HP Omen or Lenovo Legion.

As far as I know that's not an issue any more in the newer revisions of Victus.
But wobbly screen when moved is not considered a issue unless this happens on a stable base while typing or gaming.

I have seen that expectations of users in 1st world countries are very different from Indian users. An issue, as per a user in US is not even considered an issue by an Indian user.

Anyway, i agree with your point that when a higher amount is in play we must get the best product that is available.