What do u want to change in Microsoft & Windows Vista?

[dd_wingrider]

first pricing of their products should be cut down, and secondly they should now come up with some thing unique n innovative products, which not only geeks can use but common people can also go along with. want to write more but it will look too much philosophic

 

[Help~Is~Here]

trying to defend ... ur ego hurts after u got pwned by us doesnt it

I don't want to crap this thread, but if you think I got ego or that you 'pwned' someone, because you couldn't hold your point and ran off from that thread because you got 'pwned' by everyone else and opened up a new thread to defend your croocked theories, then KMA!

 

[gxsaurav]

Another Fanboy thread trying to defend the poduct that he would kill himself for! And also trying to change the perception that other OS users have about windows! What a turn off!!

If you hate Microsoft & Windows, & there marketing strategy then why not tell here what u hate so that it can be rectified.

Plz provide advice & suggestion on why U don't like Windows & how would u like to change this situation to make Windows better.

Keep the fanboyism to nil plz. Fellow members M I wrong when I say this?

 

[Help~Is~Here]

Open up the Source Code of Windows and let people themselves make Windows better!

Microsofts development team has lost it's way in creativity, if that team can't do it, alteast let MS pay other developers by opening up the source. Atleast then, windows will be what people want and not what MS wants!

 

[gxsaurav]

first pricing of their products should be cut down

Even I agree, Point has been noted.

and secondly they should now come up with some thing unique n innovative products, which not only geeks can use but common people can also go along with.

Sure, do u have some ideas for that. Why don't u give feedback in Microsoft newsgroup & technet user group about your ideas on how Windows can be made further easy. Like if you have a better way of how software installation should go plz tell us all here.

want to write more but it will look too much philosophic

If you can take out time, then plz write. Thanx for your comment.

Mods....I request you to delete all flamish & unnecessary posts such as the one from this thread, as that only brings flame war.

Open up the Source Code of Windows and let people themselves make Windows better!

Microsoft is running a business. They cannot give away the R&D they did on Windows just like that. If someone wants to make Windows better he can use many freely available tools from MS, or 3rd party tools. If you want to change something in Windows, give feedback to MS, MS will do it for u so that u don't have to learn programming & do it yourself. Remembar not everyone is a geek.

Even right now, using 3rd party tools, registry tweaks, resource hacking you can mould Windows to look or work anyway u want. I hope you have seen how Vishal moded Windows XP compleately to make it look & work just like Vista. The possibility is already there provided in a safe manner by Microsoft itself in the form of registry etc. Plz have a look at that too before saying that Windows can't be made to look & work like the way a user wants. It can do all that without opening the source code.

 

[nish_higher]

Keep the fanboyism to nil plz. Fellow members M I wrong when I say this?

no.for i actually run have both pc and mac and used SUSE\fedora\etc..... too.nothing is perfect in any case.and this is about Microsoft-so better stick to it and write abt changes u want instead of preaching other companies

And i need the ability to customize every part of start menu the way i want to.a bit-torrent client,all codecs and included adobe reader,a better antivirus than live one care,not too big installations,fast startups and installations and above all gr8 value for money.

 

[drgrudge]

I really can't understand why gx_saurav created this thread in 'Fight Club'.

Coming to the topic -
I want MS to continue giving names to their Windows like motor companies give names to bikes and scooters. Vista was a good start and I want them to continue in the same fashion.

This Windows 7 seems like coping Apple. I don't want to see Windows OS XI (or worst Windows OS X!).

 

[iMav]

Microsofts development team has lost it's way in creativity, if that team can't do it, alteast let MS pay other developers by opening up the source.

it would be nice if u could tell on the lack of creativity and what cant they do

 

[Help~Is~Here]

it would be nice if u could tell on the lack of creativity and what cant they do

Satic Desktops and static interfaces!, pathetic restrictions of allowed no. of activation limits and single system policy, propostorous pricing, overhyping of actual potential and what not?

BTW, read the line before what you quoted and answer that for me please!

I really can't understand why gx_saurav created this thread in 'Fight Club'.

Because he wants to fight and prove that Windows is better than OSS which he has unfortunately failed to do in the last 2 threads which OSS supported users started! Got booted from there, so new thread in Fight Club

 

[iMav]

the 1 about making windows open source ... y should they its their proprietary code its their wish .... besides i asked u u said make it open source and then people can make it better ... tell us what betterments are u gonna bring abt even if hypothetically it were to be open source

 

[Help~Is~Here]

the 1 about making windows open source ... y should they its their proprietary code its their wish ....

That's why it is starting to $uck! Becuase, they just can't push their code to match the creativity and stability with open source codes have! They don't need to worry that Coders are going to steal their code and make another software call Bindows! They have enough laws to take care of that, and besides why would a coder even want to steal when there are so many other open source codes?

The point is, if they open up the source, Windows won't be the creation of bunch of Microsoft coders, it will be an OS that people from all parts of the world would have contributed to making it better and the way they would like it to be rather than the way MS wants it to be! In short, it will be something that people like because there will be more people involved in the source code who will have more variety and appeal to more users!

If you want an example, go compare the Beryl interface to Aero!

What you guys don't realize is that more than half of the windows users use windows because they are forced to, not because they like to use it!

 

[gxsaurav]

And i need the ability to customize every part of start menu the way i want to

Point taken. Plz tell here what would u like to customise in start menu. There are various 3rd party tools already available to change the look & feel of start menu but native support in Windows is appreciated.

a bit-torrent client

Although I do agree to this but u do know that bit torrent is the biggest way to pirate things. Microsoft might come into trouble by supporting this by default. If you want to download torrents then u need internet connection, if u have internet connection then there are already various torrent clients available for free such as BitComet or uTorrent.

My personla take, Buy uTorrent & bundle in Windows

all codecs and included adobe reader,

Microsoft tried this but they were sued. Due to licensing restriction imposed by other companies, Microsoft cannot bundle this in Windows. Adobe sued MS for giving native PDF support in Vista saying that if MS does this then no one will download & use Adobe reader. i hope u understand the problem here which MS faces.

Again, Codecs are not made by Microsoft. If you play a file in Windows Media player for which a codec is not installed then WMP11 automatically tells u that u need a codec & forwards u to the appropriate webpage to download it.

a better antivirus than live one care

I agree

not too big installations

Umm...I agree but U do know that more features = big installation.

fast startups and installations

This you will witness with Vista SP1 currently in beta which trust me, is fast to boot.

gr8 value for money.

Plz elaborate.

HiH, plz edit your post. That is not relevent here, jeep the fanboyism to nil. Windows cannot be made Open Source. Period. If you want a feature, give feedback here & I will gladly forward it to MS.

 

[iMav]

hey HiH please i certainly would love to hear what plans do u have for windows if it were made Open source

 

[gxsaurav]

pathetic restrictions of allowed no. of activation limits

Windows Vista can be activated on a single computer unlimited times. If you install it on a new computer then you can always "move" your license to the new computer.

single system policy,

Plz elaborate what u mean by this.

propostorous pricing,

I agree, point has been already noted

overhyping of actual potential

You should see a Macworld keynote of Steve jobs first

What you guys don't realize is that more than half of the windows users use windows because they are forced to, not because they like to use it!

3rd time, plz keep the fanboyism & trolling to nil

 

[Help~Is~Here]

hey HiH please i certainly would love to hear what plans do u have for windows if it were made Open source

I would Re-compile it to work on Cell Broadband Engine!

Then I'll make sure it does 'Ray-tracing' rather than inferior DirectX.

Then I'll cut out all the MS propietry $hit that causes compatibility issues with other hardware/softwares and make it read any partition that man is aware of!

Make the crappy interface look better than Beryl on Linux!

The point is, if you open up the code, you have to agree that it's only going to get better than go worse! I might not be creative as much as another person, but once it's open, lot more creative ideas will add and then the whole OS war will end and everyone will feel light hearted and will have to make their own choices rather being forced upon choices!

The only reason that Linux is strong as it's today is because its OSS and people from almost all parts of the world contributed in its growth. Let me tell you that Linux would have been nothing more than cow dung if it weren't open source because no $hit could have been done by a bunch of programmers. Not saying anything about linux but just trying to show how Opening the source can help

 

[iMav]

^^ the product might go better but what about the company ... besides windows isnt the only closed source os and it gives more option than other closed source OSs ....

 

[Help~Is~Here]

^^ the product might go better but what about the company ... besides windows isnt the only closed source os and it gives more option than other closed source OSs ....

Dude, like I told before, MS dont' need to worry that someone is going to misuse the code for profit because there are enough laws that can protect it, and besides, they can pay these OSS developers who bring in useful changes than pay everyone for trying to make a useful change, and by doing so, MS can certainly bring down production costs and inturn the end-user price, because you dont' have to pay an OSS developer as much as you pay your dedicated developer!

 

[gxsaurav]

I would Re-compile it to work on Cell Broadband Engine!

If there is enough demand for this feature then sure MS will support it. Plz provide feedback to MS. Unless u tell them what u want, how will they add it.

Then I'll make sure it does 'Ray-tracing' rather than inferior DirectX.

I hope u know how CPU/GPU intensive Raytracing is & how much time it takes to render one frame in Mental ray.

Then I'll cut out all the MS propietry $hit that causes compatibility issues with other hardware/softwares

You mean removal of Windows components? This feature is already given in Vista. You can also achieve this using vLite. I do agree that it should give the user the choice to add or remove the components during the installation.

make it read any partition that man is aware of!

You mean File System? Point has already been noted.

Make the crappy interface look better than Beryl on Linux!

You can yourself the Aero SDK for free along with .net 2005 & make mods to Aero as u like, then release it for all of us. The feature & possibility is already there, u just have to look. You can either make it yourself & release it or give feedback to MS for doing this.

The point is, if you open up the code, you have to agree that it's only going to get better than go worse! I might not be creative as much as another person, but it's open, then the whole OS war will end and everyone will feel light hearted and will have to make their own choices rather being forced upon choices!

Plz keep the trolling to nil. You can modify Windows the way u want even right now using many Microsoft or non-Microsoft tools.

MS dont' need to worry that someone is going to misuse the code for profit because there are enough laws that can protect it,

I have something to say about this but won't say in this thread.

Fellow members, plz continue your suggestion.

 

[goobimama]

My requests:

1) Zero configuration networking. I just want to do some networking here and not worry about permissions and IPs. (Not be fanboyistic, but I do like Bonjour technology)

2) Better Security. Common. The UAC is a joke. I still get viruses in here, WITH an antivirus installed.

3) More responsiveness of menus and dialogs. Even on a Core 2 Duo, the interface seems a bit sluggish.

4) Stop advertising something as childish as Flip3D as a prime reason for someone to spend $400 on an OS...

That seems about right.

 

[Help~Is~Here]

If there is enough demand for this feature then sure MS will support it. Plz provide feedback to MS. Unless u tell them what u want, how will they add it.

That's the problem. What is MS doing? Will someone need to go knock their door and tell them what people need. A multimillion dollar company is expected to do it's recearch of what people want and not wait for someone to ask them to implement, one of the reasons for the abysmal performance of vista

I hope u know how CPU/GPU intensive Raytracing is & how much time it takes to render one frame in Mental ray.

Not at all intensive on Cell Broadband Engine if you were listenting and understanding what I was saying.

Plz keep the trolling to nil. You can modify Windows the way u want even right now using many Microsoft or non-Microsoft tools.

Yeah like the guy who was sued for somethin he did with one of the MS softwares! His statement was that he used microsoft provided tools to make the mods but yet he was sued, this is the sad nature of MS and why no coder bother to make any change to the sofware made by mentally retarted people who sue others just for the fun of it because they know the poor coder doesn't have enough money to afford a dragging legal battle!!


Anyways, I'm out of this thread, no point because Windows will be the same load of **** that it has been since the dawn of computers because MS will never listen to what the people want no matter how many suggestion made and like this thread is going to make any difference to windows!