Vista will drive users to Linux

[cryptid]

you will also agree that about 85% of servers worldwide run on Windows.

LOL

 

[jpushkarh]

Gr8 fun & also very knowledgeble thread

 

[__Virus__]

you will also agree that about 85% of servers worldwide run on Windows.

Prove it and i will gift u my Mobo

 

[theexister]

I have been working at one of the top 3 indian IT companies (which I cannot name for obvious reasons).
We are using Win2k SP4 now for the past 4 years & only about 3 months back are slowly moving to WinXP proff.

We considered at one point to move all servers to Linux but the price of their Support services was way too high. Considering the frequent updations and maintanence we do every month it would have exceeded the cost of a one time payment for a Windows OS.

As far as the industry is concerened the move to linux is more hyped. I have heard a few of my friends in other IT companies talk about the move to Linux but the complexity of its use combined with the hidden cost eventually supercedes.

Most companies will stick to existing OS in both the cases (server & desktop) until the next generation OS really offers better value & features.

 

[it_waaznt_me]

And to add theexister's post, the cost of training the personnel .. that is another thing ..

 

[tuxfan]

And what about hardware support? Linux still lacks quite a bit there as well. Mainly hardware manufacturers are to be blamed for this. But you can't expect users to sit and find the right drivers for their hardware every now an then :roll:

 

[sujithtom]

People just don't consider about migrating cost only. If Vista is far more better than Linux companies will surely choose Vista...

 

[planetcall]

comeon peeps what the fuss??? I wonder if someon really wanna compare linux with windows. There is no match pal. The simple thing is that Linux rules and it not just me who yells that but see the proof(netcraft link posted above). Desktop is *mostly* used by noobs who dont really want to learn and go through any hassles and love icons more than real performance and also they outnumber experts. This is where Windows Reigns. Now the server segment is mostly handled by experts and the talented peeps. See on google the wide gap between the linux distros and Windows in this segment. Simply Linux rules.

In the desktop segment too Linux has recently giving M$ a big threat. GNOME has matured to greater height and recently I discovered a great website "www.gnome-look.org" and then only I come to know that linux already has evolved more than I used to think. I have been using Windows ever since I started but now I have migrated to Linux, the better option

 

[it_waaznt_me]

You say 80 M Desktop users are n00bs and 20 30 K of Server admins are "experts" ... ??
You cannot use a server as your desktop buddy .. This is like you buy a plane to go office daily .. It wont suit ..
And do you put your computer on for 48 days ..??? I dont .. and I dont see any reason to do that ..
Now to your post .. There is no match because Linux and Windows are for different use (And not becuase Linux rules ) .. If you search the Open Source forum, you'll find a nice argument on this ..

 

[vignesh]

I heard Vista is too heavy on resources.

 

[sujithtom]

Dude i think ur bit wrong, Windows dominates just because the vast amount of apps and games it supports

 

[planetcall]

You say 80 M Desktop users are n00bs and 20 30 K of Server admins are "experts" ... ??

What I said is that "MOST" of the desktop users are noobs. It simply means that almost all the noobs are the desktop users. Also, the servers are handled by the experts. It means that those handling servers are talented people and atleast not the noobs.

You cannot use a server as your desktop buddy

where did I say that buddy??
*www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/engel/a025.gif

And do you put your computer on for 48 days ..??? I dont .. and I dont see any reason to do that ..

Well you messed up. See I said that in reference to the servers. If you have a server would ya like to shut it at night simply coz u are not there?? BTW, I switch my PC off rarely. Most of the time I keep it on and monitor off.
*photobucket.com/albums/v295/laurents/omicrons/th_smileylan.gif

Now to your post .. There is no match because Linux and Windows are for different use (And not becuase Linux rules )

Sorry dude! I opine it a fallacy. I agree Linux has far more wider uses than windows. Linux is enjoyed the sameway by the users as is windows. You should have given a few examples too as how windows usage purpose is different to that of linux?? I dont see any difference. You got wordprocessors, games, programming editors etc.

*freeweb.supereva.com/esorciccio2002/smilies/adminpower.gif

 

[cryptid]

I heard Vista is too heavy on resources.

Totally True

 

[it_waaznt_me]

Hmm.. How I missed this reply .. Anyways ..

where did I say that buddy??

I said that .. *www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/engel/a025.gif .. And I say it again .. Server OS isnt optimized for desktop use .. So you are comparing a Server to a desktop which is a fallacy ...

Anyways, I was talking about this thread which is beaten upto death in which I said it again :

I am saying it again and again .. read my first reply in the thread .. there is nothing wrong in being complex .. If you sit on W2k3 server, you will find that it too has got great customization and power but you cannot use it as a desktop system .. Because its not written for that use ..
The very roots of Linux are from Unix which was *not* written for desktop use .. And if they have to embrace this field, they will have to shed that geeky image ..

..

Hehhe .. I aint gonna argue anymore about it ..

PS
*freeweb.supereva.com/esorciccio2002/smilies/adminpower.gif : Lol

 

[mehulved]

Hello friends.
I am not here to do any bashing to any operating systems. I will b taking a neutral stance in this seeming battle. I personally prefer linux over windows and have only linux for the time being on my system. Nonetheless, I feel windows is indipensable. Maybe cos its most widely acceptable or cos it has got ease of use or cos it has good support of hardware vendors and software writers or whatever else its difficult to go on without windows for most of the people. Linux has its own advantages in terms of security and availability of source code. Also, many commonly used softwares are being written for linux and hardware vendors have started to notice linux. But , still linux has its problems abound. Mainly hardware incompatibility. It is not so easy to install or uninstall the products in linux environment as in windows. Though this is great for security. It turns the newbies away. Well, i believe everything has its ups and downs. Coming to vista, I've heard that most of the features hyped by vista have been around for ages. Like 3D graphics engine has been since 1995-96 in Mac. And I believe that 1st final release of vista is not going to implement most of the hyped features. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Linux has given me some real problems while installing which were real frustrating and an average user wudn't want to spend time sorting those out.
Finally, I would like to say that the battle between linux and windows in the battle of individual ideologies and will go on continuously. So, there will be some moving to linux with release of vista and some to vista. If linux improves it hardware incomatibilities and list of softwares I feel more users will go on to linux and maybe more malware too, who knows.

 

[JGuru]

What you guys don't understand is TCO. The Total Cost
of Ownership. Linux comes with an excellent image-manipulation program called GIMP. OpenOffice.org fills up the void created by KOffice.
As far as Windows is concerned you don't get MSOffice
for free with Vista, do you? Plus, all the viruses and
Adware + Spyware target Windows!!!
Do whatever Windows has more vulnerabilities than Linux!! The Viruses corrupt the Windows Regitry, then
Windows is history. That's not the case with Linux!!!

Of late the Linux market is picking up at a brisk-pace.
Microsoft is a tough competitor, so expect some
tight competition in the future.

 

[it_waaznt_me]

Ahem .. JGuru .. TCO of Linux is more than Windows .. Just read this thread from the start .. Then we'll continue the argument...

 

[praka123]

GNU/Linux is better.wingdows is too inferior to compare.So we'll wait for singularity to grow up to give a competition for GNU/Linux...

 

[naveenchandran]

hmm...

Only Ease of use and Appearance should not be considered....
I feel that ONLY thing that most users get attracted to windows is "Appearance".

I know that most of them wants to try vista...
If Windows Vista had same "appearance" like Windows XP or 98 how many would have tried it out?
"All that Glitters is not Gold"

The most important thing is RELIABLITY...

Windows was never much so reliable than Unix/Linux....

 

[mehulved]

hmm...

Only Ease of use and Appearance should not be considered....
I feel that ONLY thing that most users get attracted to windows is "Appearance".

Well I disagree there. If it were so Mac would have 99% percent of the market share right now.
Windows is ahead just cos of the marketing strategies on MS and intel.