vista cost & requirements

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MetalheadGautham

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desiibond said:
^^^ You said that you need a stable OS from microsoft for your folks at home and you also want an OS that does good at gaming.
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yeah

Yep. you can run games on Vista Home Basic but again it lacks so manyfeatures that you might want to have when you want them. Vista Home basic is just a windows xp on dx10.
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thats what I need. something familiar to win xp.

If you want a stable OS for home use, I would say get Windows XP home for 3.5k instead of windows vista home basic.
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why ?

But you need a good OS that can do lot of tasks get winxp professional or vista home premium.
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I H.A.T.E. XP. Its old, obsolete and unstable.

vista home basic: 3.5k
vista home premium: 4.9k
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what about the upgrade cost ? from hbasic to hpremium ?

PS: The vista media centre that comes with home premium and ultimate is worth a lot.
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Not needed since folks at home prefer tata sky and samsung home theater.

What exactly is the config of pc that you want to run vista on?
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Pentium 4 2.66GHz Prescott, Intel D915GLVG mobo, 1GB + 256MB DDR1 400MHz RAM, 910GL Graphics (GMA 900), 80GB HDD (10 alloted for all windows related stuff).
 
Psychosocial

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^^AFAIK Ultimate occupies 12GB of space but Home Basic will occupy less as there is no Media Center and other stuff. And how will you play DX10 with 910GL :confused:
 
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^^Oh then its fine.

Seeing YOUR requirements, Vista Home Basic will be fine but it dosent hurt to get more :).
 
MetalheadGautham

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KPower Mania said:
^^Oh then its fine.

Seeing YOUR requirements, Vista Home Basic will be fine but it dosent hurt to get more :).
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Considering the fact that I can use that 1.5K to buy some REAL hardware upgrade, I think it does hurt to get more. The wallet that is. Put yourself in my situation, a guy who WONT buy pirated software. Now, you like to use windows vista ultimate. Imagine it was a licenced copy. That means you spent 10K on it. Well, I would rather use 6.5 for getting a better CPU or a better GPU than buying some upgrades to a 3.5K OS, or, if nobody else used my PC, I wouldn't buy it at all.

And there is this one question I think veterans can answer:

I remember the situation 3 years back, when one of my friends got the choice to install windows XP home or professional, pirated ofcourse. He selected Home, and started running his pirated games. Later, someone told him Professional has more features and he installed it over Home, since it didn't cost anything. He said the OS itself was slightly bloated compared to home, and he got lesser frame rate in counter strike. So we concluded that for gaming, XP Home is a better choice than professional because (1) it uses lesser resources and (2) if we BOUGHT it, it would be cheaper and that money can be invested in a better GPU.

Is the same true for Vista ? Would I get better framerate in Vista Basic compared to Vista Premium ? I know for sure that the second part (being able to buy a better GPU) is true, but what about the first part ?

Last Question:

I think XP is just too buggy by today's standards. I am considering getting vista only because of that. Could it be because I use SP2 instead of SP3 ? What are the EXACT advantages installing SP3 can have ? Would it make the OS more stable, faster, and more secure ? On this configuration, is XP-Pro-SP3 + Themes lesser, equal or better than Vista-Basic-SP1 ? If its better or equal, I am considering not buying vista at all, and saving that cash for something else. :D
 
desiibond

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okay mate. Do one thing.

Take a copy of vista home basic from your friends or download from internet

install it without giving a key. You will get 1week demo time to use. Test it out top to bottom and when the time comes, purchase a license from MS.

This way you will clear all your doubts.

XP SP3 does nothing good. I am avoiding it as it is not necessary that much.
 
Psychosocial

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XP SP3 adds NOTHING excet WMP11 and IE7 plus some updates and fixes to bugs :|. Nothing to make it stable or sh1t.

Do as desii said. Get your copy from net and use it for sometime.
 
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^^Yeah and most probably your pc might have been already updated to WMP11 and IE7 by Windows Updates.
Regarding Vista, Get Homebasic for now as it fulfills your needs :)
 
MetalheadGautham

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desiibond said:
okay mate. Do one thing.

Take a copy of vista home basic from your friends or download from internet

install it without giving a key. You will get 1week demo time to use. Test it out top to bottom and when the time comes, purchase a license from MS.

This way you will clear all your doubts.

XP SP3 does nothing good. I am avoiding it as it is not necessary that much.
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OK, I am going to check out vista basic demo next week after finishing the purchase of my gig of ram.

But don't reviews+ state 15% performance b00sts for SP3 ? :confused:
I am avoiding installing it ONLY because installing it is time consuming. :cry:

But I would LOVE to get some benchmarks of these three: XP Home SP3, XP Pro SP3 and Vista Basic SP1.
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XP SP3 adds NOTHING excet WMP11 and IE7 plus some updates and fixes to bugs :|. Nothing to make it stable or sh1t.

Do as desii said. Get your copy from net and use it for sometime.
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And yeah, aren't fixes to bugs and updates supposed to give speed boosts ? :confused:
 
Psychosocial

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^Dunno much about what the fixes to do but they arent for boosting the speed. Only some minor fixes here and there.

Vista Home Basic is the way to go for you. I am really satisfied with Vista Ultimate x86 SP1. Its way better than XP SP3.
 
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Yeah me too Happy with Vista Ultimate x86 SP1 :D
Anyways aren't the sales of windows xp stopped?
 
desiibond

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^^ I love the Vista Media Center. Such a rich app and runs smoothly on my rig.

yep. xp sales are officially stopped but will be sold by dealers till the stocks are over.
 
IronManForever

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How will Vista run on this rig?
Celeron D 2.26 @ 2.53 GHz 256 KB L2 cache
1 GB DDR 400
Nvidia FX 5200 128 MB ??

I doubt it will run better than XP on 512 MB RAM.
 
desiibond

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IronManForever said:
How will Vista run on this rig?
Celeron D 2.26 @ 2.53 GHz 256 KB L2 cache
1 GB DDR 400
Nvidia FX 5200 128 MB ??

I doubt it will run better than XP on 512 MB RAM.
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You better not run vista on it. :)

Stick to XP for now.

Vista Home Basic recommended setup:

1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor

512 MB of system memory

20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space

Support for DirectX 9 graphics and 32 MB of graphics memory

DVD-ROM drive

Audio Output

Internet access (fees may apply)


Vista Home Premium recommended setup:

1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor

1 GB of system memory

40 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space

Support for DirectX 9 graphics with:

WDDM Driver

128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)

Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware

32 bits per pixel

DVD-ROM drive

Audio Output

Internet access (fees may apply)

the above specs are from Microsoft and I don't think they are right specs to run Vista.

You need an Athlon X2 or Core2 or Pentium D grade processor, 2gig of memory, 8400GS or better GPU, 80Gb of HDD atleast.

Even if you processor is weak, a good GPU will save the day.

eg: I have Athlon 64 1.8 GHz CPU (overclocked to 2.3GHz). Vista was running fine with few lags on my rig. The smoothness of vista showed up after I added another gig of ram and ATI HD2600XT.
 
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IronManForever

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desiibond said:
You better not run vista on it.

Stick to XP for now.

Vista Home Basic recommended setup:

1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor

512 MB of system memory

20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space

Support for DirectX 9 graphics and 32 MB of graphics memory

DVD-ROM drive

Audio Output

Internet access (fees may apply)


Vista Home Premium recommended setup:

1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor

1 GB of system memory

40 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space

Support for DirectX 9 graphics with:

WDDM Driver

128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)

Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware

32 bits per pixel

DVD-ROM drive

Audio Output

Internet access (fees may apply)

the above specs are from Microsoft and I don't think they are right specs to run Vista.

You need an Athlon X2 or Core2 or Pentium D grade processor, 2gig of memory, 8400GS or better GPU, 80Gb of HDD atleast.

Even if you processor is weak, a good GPU will save the day.

eg: I have Athlon 64 1.8 GHz CPU (overclocked to 2.3GHz). Vista was running fine with few lags on my rig. The smoothness of vista showed up after I added another gig of ram and ATI HD2600XT.
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Fair enough. If one's PC starts hiccuping, some people upgrade, others search for ways to get over it by using different OSes and softwares. Its always these kinda times people learn alot about PCs. :) And not to be provocative but I guess now Ill run linux full-time as any latest distro will run with full glory in my PC. Vista! Im coming later to you after I upgrade. :)


MetalheadGautham said:
^^offtopic: what exactly happened to your old account ? :p
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Who was that for? :confused:
 
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