Nerevarine
Incarnate
You are right, poonia will be termed as a leaker not a whistleblower. Just googled whistleblower vs leaker
Unethical practices of Byjus and it's impact on education
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The "Wolf Gupta" kid was a fabrication as per the legal notice served by them to Poonia.
Agreed. It's more of an argument of whether the service is value for money or not. Though personally I think the whole premise of their business is kind of flawed because charging close to one lakh for very elementary programming courses to kids belonging to an age group who would not be able to grasp the concepts is not fair. Also, their marketing about kids getting a 30 lakh job at Google is pretty shady marketing. On that basis I think they are in the wrong.
Technically both of them have done wrong, it's a matter of how much:
Byju's have shady marketing and misled parents by enticing them with lofty claims that have very little to zero substance. Poonia, while calling them out correctly has also leaked confidential and internal communication of the company, though I think it's justifiable. WHJ can also claim personal defamation since Poonia has displayed a photoshopped image of the founders morphed like a dog in some pics/videos.
Nerevarine
Incarnate
After going through the live case on twitter,
In hindsight, poonia could have done a lot of things right, like not going haywire in calling teachers "housewives", or porn on the platform.
If his case was calm and composed, and he thought it through, it would have been a clear decisive victory. The whitehatsr lawyer has literally nothing on poonia. All he has are wayward tweets made by poonia.
If his case was calm and composed, and he thought it through, it would have been a clear decisive victory. The whitehatsr lawyer has literally nothing on poonia. All he has are wayward tweets made by poonia.
Nerevarine
Incarnate
Just look at this shit. I cant begin to understand how racism is so ingrained in a company channel.
Seems sexist and racist at the same time.
OP
Everyone involved here are just unprofessional and do not know how to behave that is all
WhiteHatJR needs a more professional PR team, with a transparent and open approach for addressing concerns, as well as better trained teachers, and someone needs to order them some pizza and show them some DVDs on dos and donts of official communication channels
This Poonia guy needs to understand basic human decency
I feel dirty looking at screenshots so not going to even comment on what is going on in those slack channels
In the media industry, there is a term for taking care of such elementary matters to meet bare minimum levels of quality, it is called "hygiene"
WhiteHatJR needs a more professional PR team, with a transparent and open approach for addressing concerns, as well as better trained teachers, and someone needs to order them some pizza and show them some DVDs on dos and donts of official communication channels
This Poonia guy needs to understand basic human decency
I feel dirty looking at screenshots so not going to even comment on what is going on in those slack channels
In the media industry, there is a term for taking care of such elementary matters to meet bare minimum levels of quality, it is called "hygiene"
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RumbaMon19
Feel Pain.
What else to expect? They are straight out Freshers.
Education does not teach ethics.
Nerevarine
Incarnate
Actually it's a result of school teachers and college professors not paid enough. If they were paid as much as the coaching class peers, it would attract more talented people, and overall we would not need to rely on coaching etc.
No first world country has schools + coaching/tuitions. But then again, india's population is the main reason why exams are not a measure of skill/Intelligence but more of a filter. There are many upsc candidates that would fit the role better than someone who managed to mug up the entire syllabus, but the exams are the only way to filter out the seemingly "best candidate".
The root cause is competition, arising from population. That combined with fetishization of engineering and medical careers means that everyone wants to get into IITs, IIMs, etc. while seats are few. So, to competitive exams were created to cull the crowd, so to speak.
I remember reading a news on /r/worldnews long time ago about students committing suicide somewhere in India because the exam results website had a bug that showed their scores lower than the actual scores. Many of the western commentors on that thread could not understand why someone would commit suicide over exam scores. Then a Chinese guy replied that its the same in China and competition is so tough that people don't qualify for seats in colleges by as little as one mark, that too after many years of preparations.
I remember reading a news on /r/worldnews long time ago about students committing suicide somewhere in India because the exam results website had a bug that showed their scores lower than the actual scores. Many of the western commentors on that thread could not understand why someone would commit suicide over exam scores. Then a Chinese guy replied that its the same in China and competition is so tough that people don't qualify for seats in colleges by as little as one mark, that too after many years of preparations.
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RumbaMon19
Feel Pain.
Ya, I saw a video about this china thing. There exam is called GaoKao, In this not only maths and science but even language is tested. Also, they have many rules, like no one can ask a doubt from teacher while s/he is teaching.
Half of those people preparing for it are not even interested in this field. Even those are preparing, whose main interest is sports or language, but they are forced to study PCM and PCB subjects. I had a school friend, his father was a doctor, but he himself did not have any interest in any of sciences. he was expert in many sports games, but still he was forced for taking medical.
chimera201
Wise Old Owl
Literally all of my classmates back in engineering were afraid of programming. I am like why did you choose computer engineering if you are afraid of programming. Coincidentally one of the exam papers exclusively had only programming questions (write a c++ program) and zero theoretical questions. Everyone had a sad and scared face whereas I was the happiest person in the room.
RumbaMon19
Feel Pain.
^ And this is the reason why india has a large no. of engineers, but very less "real" and "productive" engineers who are technically sound. Most of them just cram up everything.
Zangetsu
I am the master of my Fate.
Yes teachers are not paid enough but it is only in case of small schools & colleges which are not well funded. Other wise if you go check some esteemed colleges & schools they are payed well.
Management quota of seats (with high price) and then joining IIT Classes after 8th/10th standard is peer pressure from parents to children.
Even some nursery schools are charging lakhs of rupees now a days.
Nerevarine
Incarnate
Actually that money is all gobbled up by administration and management, it doesn't reach the teachers or atleast the teachers who just teach and not be part of administration.
Every private school or university has some level of corruption, where money is funnelled out by administration.
RumbaMon19
Feel Pain.
Here is a talk between a new recruit and his manager of byju's
More like Roadies audition, except this happened in real life.
More like Roadies audition, except this happened in real life.
Nerevarine
Incarnate
What happened to pradeep any news guys ??
RumbaMon19
Feel Pain.
^Nothing much after his hearing on 6th. that case will take long, as whj's lawyers will surely try to linger on.