The Agonies of Desire

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dOm1naTOr

Wise Old Owl
Lookin on the xbits comparison, Q9300 rules anyday than Q6600. Q9300@ 3.5Ghz beats Q6600@3.6 Ghz in 95% benchs and oced Q9300 consumes almost 70W less than oced Q6600. So u can save a big amount on PSU.

And think bout Q6600 if u plan to take it to some 3.8Ghz or higher. But be warned-ull need a very gud cooling and a much higher rated PSU if u intend on doing so. AT clocks like 3.8Ghz or higher, it might consume atlest a 100W more than Q9300 @ 3.5Ghz.

Also a 9600GT SLI or an HD 3870X2 seems better options than a 9800GX2 considering the price to performance ratio. 9600GT SLi perfoms better than 8800GT SLI, which is a real advantage of 9600GT over 8800GT
 

nish_higher

Wise Old Owl
the board they used was P5E3 which is pretty costly.. i doubt if u can OC Q9300 to 3.5ghz on 750i but u can OC Q6600 to even 4ghz (with thermalruight 120E ,of course) on that since its fsb is just 1066 which is a major factor here..so in that case Q6600 is better until u are gonna pair it with a 23k board :lol: i guess nobody checked the test setup

Also u can OC Q6600 to 3.6 and beyond on a Cooler master 460W PSU , also this guy's upto SLi so i really dont think u should count the wattage factor here since he'll have to get a good PSU



Regarding 8800GT SLi vs 9600 GT SLi--
*en.expreview.com/img/2008/03/25/sli0803/sli9688.png
 
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iceman69

iceman69

Lost In The Silicon Woods
i actually am going for cooler master extreme power 650W. but then i dont any cash left for any cooling solutions if i oc. im allready smoking bidi's instead of ciggrates to save cash.:D

Look guys, my major need is gaming, movies and music on my comp.
i know music wont be a prob. movies too shudnt cause much trouble.
that leaves gaming, nd herein im confused (no pun intended)
so wat wud b better - (1) Putting in an E8400 ?
(2) Putting in an E8400 and waiting for better quad?
(3)Putting in a quad regardless, say Q9300?
What do u guys think?
 

nish_higher

Wise Old Owl
Q6600 will reach 3.4ghz on air on most boards..u cant make Q9300 do that- u need an extreme board for that and when ur gaming with a quad u gotta have some good oc frankly. i'd choose Q6600 anyday over Q9450 and Q9300 or E8500 over Q9300 (if i were to go crazy over ocing) ...this is my opinion though
 
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iceman69

iceman69

Lost In The Silicon Woods
ok, let me get down to the basic questions im thinking about:

If i dont OC at all, will me using a Q6600 prevent me from playing games compared to a Q9300? For at least 12 months (only compared to Q9300)?
 
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iceman69

iceman69

Lost In The Silicon Woods
Thnx.
So my upgraded config is looking something like this:-

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4 Ghz - 10100/-
Asus P5ND Nvidia 750i SLI - 9850/-
2 * Trancend 2 Gb @ 800 Mhz - 3900/-
2 * Seagate 7200.11{32 Mb buffer} - 8300/-
Cooler Master Extreme Power 650 W - 4950/-
Cooler Mystique Mystique - 5500/-
Lite On SATA 20x LightScribe DVD RW - 1500/-

Total - 44100/-

Will use my old 7900 GT till i can afford one next month.
Then ill opt of either of the 3:-
1. 9800 GX2
2. 2 * 9800 GT in SLI
3. 2 * 8800 GT OC in SLi
or maybe sumthin different if anything better comes along. :)
 

nish_higher

Wise Old Owl
In that case,u better wait for new cards by ati.
Also p5nd is no good performer.unless u want to go with just asus.better get p7n sli .check its review
 
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iceman69

iceman69

Lost In The Silicon Woods
i used an MSI K8N Diamoond on my last rig. damn thing gave out on me in december. git it repaired but it still went bust in feb. also P5ND is 1333 Mhz while MSI is 1066 Mhz. im not sure exactly what those numbers mean but higher usually means better. And Ati card work well on Nvidia chipsets? What if i wanna link 2?
 

nish_higher

Wise Old Owl
well if u wanna add 2 Ati cards then go for Abit IX38 Quad GT - the best DDR2 ATi crossfire mobo u can get for now.


And MSI P7N SLi Platinum's Specs ---
it has 1333FSB , same as asus

Socket 775
CPU (Max Support) Core 2 Extreme
FSB 533/800/1066/1333
Chipset NVIDIA® nForce 750i SLI
DDR2 Memory DDR2 533/667/800


*global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodmbspec&prod_no=1373&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=#menu
 

dOm1naTOr

Wise Old Owl
im allready smoking bidi's instead of ciggrates to save cash.:D
u need to read this
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88642
[no offence dude]:)

With an oced quad nd an SLI with 2*9800 GTX , ull need to go for a higher rated PSU than a 650W one.
ATI's HD 3xxx nd 4xxx being 55nm, are more power efficient. Wait for HD 4870 or X2.

@nish_higher
BTW, how much did ur M audio card cost? And how is its performance? And wat speakers are u using? ANd where did u bought the card from?
I m thinking of a Creative X-FI Xtreme Audio for 4.1k from npithub or from a local store. And also Logitech G51 5.1.
Currently i have realtek onboard 7.1 with optical and a co-axial with Creative T6060 5.1.
 
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nish_higher

Wise Old Owl
^ 14.8k the time i got..now i think its around 1k cheaper.if u r gonna use a card for recording this is the best thing u can get below 50k.except for no phantom power inputs.card purchased from delhi , bharat music store.
but if its for playback i mean games n stuff u btter get creative since recording cards dont offer EAX and DTS
 
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iceman69

iceman69

Lost In The Silicon Woods
@ nish_higher: thnx for the update, but MSI costs bout 5-6 grand more than Asus. maybe in another 6 months or so, ill save up enuf again 4 another overhaul. :)

@dOm1naTOr: ure right bout the PSU, but now i have to go for extreme power 600W, cos 650 isnt available. thats the only one in my budget right now. maybe next time.
 

dOm1naTOr

Wise Old Owl
Corsair HX 620 is more than twice as expensive than CM EP 600W. Though HX wud be better, CM 600w has much better vfm.
 
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iceman69

iceman69

Lost In The Silicon Woods
well, talked to my vendor, am going for MSI P7N Sli Platinum, nd cooler master real power 550 W.

but he says the cabinet i want (cooler master mystique) might be available in all black.
 

nish_higher

Wise Old Owl
if i aint wrong , that 600W ep PSU has only 4-pin cpu power connector..while all new mobos have 8pin..its recommended to use 8 pin one ,at least my 780i and 680i manuals say the same.
 

cooldude1

Broken In
if i aint wrong , that 600W ep PSU has only 4-pin cpu power connector..while all new mobos have 8pin..its recommended to use 8 pin one ,at least my 780i and 680i manuals say the same.

i dnt think that matters much

But the one he's going for now which is CM 550W Real Power has 8Pin CPU Connector
 
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