Suggest a new PC, high configuration, mostly for AutoDesk Products, Revit, AutoCAD, etc.

D@rekills4

In the zone
Hey guys, so I need a new PC, it will be used in my office and will be mostly used for AutoDesk products like Revit and AutoDesk. My current laptops with 8 GB RAM, i7 Quad Core 2.0 GHz processor and 2 GB Nvidia M series graphics cannot hold up with my current Revit files. One file got so large enough that it stopped working, it only works on the other high configuration machine.

Please suggest.
 

Shah

Cyborg Agent
Fill this questionnaire *www.digit.in/forum/pc-components-c...new-pc-help-answer-these-questions-first.html
 
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D@rekills4

D@rekills4

In the zone
Fill this questionnaire *www.digit.in/forum/pc-components-c...new-pc-help-answer-these-questions-first.html


1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: It will for for Office work for running all the AutoDesk Products, like the ones given here: Included Software | Building Design Suite | Autodesk


2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: Rs. 45K to 50K

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: No.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 8.1, will upgrade to 10 after release.

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1 TB.

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: Around 22 inch, 1920 * 1080.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: None. Fully new.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Around 15 days.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Can build myself.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Locally or online, whichever one would be faster and cheaper.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Mostly 16 GB RAM, 2 GB workstation graphics and a good processor. The Revit files shouldn't lag out or stop working after exceeding a particular file size.
 

bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
ProcessorIntel Core i5 4440
12,500
CPU CoolerStock
0
MotherboardGIGABYTE GA-H81M-S1
3,500
MemoryKingston HyperX Fury 8GB 1600MHz
4,500
Graphics CardZotac GTX 750Ti 2GB
10,500
Power SupplyAntec VP450P
2,500
CabinetCooler Master Elite 311
2,300
Internal StorageWD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD
3,500
Optical DriveAsus DRW-24D3ST DVD/RW
1,100
MonitorAOC i2276VWM 22" LED IPS
8,800
KeyboardDell MK200 Keyboard and Mouse
800
Mouseincluded in combo
0
Total
50,000
 
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D@rekills4

D@rekills4

In the zone
ProcessorIntel Core i5 4440
12,500
CPU CoolerStock
0
MotherboardGIGABYTE GA-H81M-S1
3,500
MemoryKingston HyperX Fury 8GB 1600MHz
4,500
Graphics CardZotac GTX 750Ti 2GB
10,500
Power SupplyAntec VP450P
2,500
CabinetCooler Master Elite 311
2,300
Internal StorageWD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD
3,500
Optical DriveAsus DRW-24D3ST DVD/RW
1,100
MonitorAOC i2276VWM 22" LED IPS
8,800
KeyboardDell MK200 Keyboard and Mouse
800
Mouseincluded in combo
0
Total
50,000


Wow exactly 50K! Thank you.
Suppose I were to increase my budget to get a good i7 processor, what would you recommend?

And how is the motherboard so cheap LOL?
 

DK_WD

WD Official
Hi [MENTION=49497]D@rekills4[/MENTION],

Based on your requirement, there is no need to go with the latest CPU and MOBO. You just go with [MENTION=105611]bssunil[/MENTION] configuration.

If you have the extra budget, then I'd suggest you to upgrade the RAM with high frequency like 1866Mhz. Just a suggestion, maybe you could add 2 sticks of 8GB RAM. if you run 2 RAM sticks, you will be running memory in dual channel which will be a greater increase in performance than running a single stick in single channel.

Hope it helps.
 
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D@rekills4

D@rekills4

In the zone
Hi [MENTION=49497]D@rekills4[/MENTION],

Based on your requirement, there is no need to go with the latest CPU and MOBO. You just go with [MENTION=105611]bssunil[/MENTION] configuration.

If you have the extra budget, then I'd suggest you to upgrade the RAM with high frequency like 1866Mhz. Just a suggestion, maybe you could add 2 sticks of 8GB RAM. if you run 2 RAM sticks, you will be running memory in dual channel which will be a greater increase in performance than running a single stick in single channel.

Hope it helps.

Oh, I see.
Actually I plan on increasing the budget to 60K.
The current laptops have 8 GB RAM and rendering takes forever on those.
Like literally, an entire day for huge files. And the RAM usage is 7.6 out of 7.9 GB at that time.
 

bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Oh, I see.
Actually I plan on increasing the budget to 60K.
The current laptops have 8 GB RAM and rendering takes forever on those.
Like literally, an entire day for huge files. And the RAM usage is 7.6 out of 7.9 GB at that time.

ProcessorIntel Core i5 444012,500
CPU CoolerStock0
MotherboardGIGABYTE GA-H81M-S13,500
MemoryKingston HyperX Fury 16GB(8GBx2) 1600MHz
9,000
Graphics CardZotac GTX 960 2GB
16,000
Power SupplyAntec VP450P2,500
CabinetCooler Master Elite 3112,300
Internal StorageWD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD3,500
Optical DriveAsus DRW-24D3ST DVD/RW1,100
MonitorAOC i2276VWM 22" LED IPS8,800
KeyboardDell MK200 Keyboard and Mouse800
Mouseincluded in combo0
Total60,000
 

DK_WD

WD Official
Oh, I see.
Actually I plan on increasing the budget to 60K.
The current laptops have 8 GB RAM and rendering takes forever on those.
Like literally, an entire day for huge files. And the RAM usage is 7.6 out of 7.9 GB at that time.

Hi [MENTION=49497]D@rekills4[/MENTION],

There is no need to increase the budget. Your selected configuration is enough for your requirements. For RAM, just go with the 16GB (8x2) sticks with the frequency rate of 1866Mhz.

Hope it helps.
 
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D@rekills4

D@rekills4

In the zone
ProcessorIntel Core i5 444012,500
CPU CoolerStock0
MotherboardGIGABYTE GA-H81M-S13,500
MemoryKingston HyperX Fury 16GB(8GBx2) 1600MHz
9,000
Graphics CardZotac GTX 960 2GB
16,000
Power SupplyAntec VP450P2,500
CabinetCooler Master Elite 3112,300
Internal StorageWD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD3,500
Optical DriveAsus DRW-24D3ST DVD/RW1,100
MonitorAOC i2276VWM 22" LED IPS8,800
KeyboardDell MK200 Keyboard and Mouse800
Mouseincluded in combo0
Total60,000



Wow, thanks for that, seems good but shouldn't I be getting a workstation graphic cards? Like Nvidia Quadro or AMD FirePro?







i5 will be enough for you needs. i7 would be an overkill considering its price.


I really need a i7 processor, the current laptops with i7, 2.30 GHz quad core processor are not able to hold up with my AutoDesk files.





Hi [MENTION=49497]D@rekills4[/MENTION],

There is no need to increase the budget. Your selected configuration is enough for your requirements. For RAM, just go with the 16GB (8x2) sticks with the frequency rate of 1866Mhz.

Hope it helps.



Are you sure? Like I said for the above guy, it was not really enough. I even reinstalled Windows on those laptops to remove all the bundled **** that came with the laptop and still they are quite slow while using Revit.
 

DK_WD

WD Official
Are you sure? Like I said for the above guy, it was not really enough. I even reinstalled Windows on those laptops to remove all the bundled **** that came with the laptop and still they are quite slow while using Revit.

Hi [MENTION=49497]D@rekills4[/MENTION],

To overcome the problem, I believe you need the better GPU and high RAM in the system. The selected CPU has a hyper-threading feature, which allows each CPU core to execute two threads simultaneously.

Just a suggestion, if you don't have the budget problem, then you can go with any configuration you like.
 
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D@rekills4

D@rekills4

In the zone
Hi [MENTION=49497]D@rekills4[/MENTION],

To overcome the problem, I believe you need the better GPU and high RAM in the system. The selected CPU has a hyper-threading feature, which allows each CPU core to execute two threads simultaneously.

Just a suggestion, if you don't have the budget problem, then you can go with any configuration you like.


Thank you for your suggestion. :)
I am thinking of further increasing my budget.

Are the Intel Xeon Processors better than i7 ones? Especially rendering and Revit products?
Also thinking of taking Nvidia Quadro or AMD FirePro workstation GPUs.
 

tinornit

Broken In
16GB RAM 'might not be enough if you are running any image processing software and also 3DS max .. i mean when running Photoshop two jobs with 500MB or less size...and opening 3DS Max also for small rendering job ....the PC will slow down and take more time render.
I would say for a professional....min 32GB is would be needed.
One of architects whom I consulted did not listen first and went ahead and put just 8GB and system came to crawling low speed and then after 6 months installed 16GB and now after close to 1.5 years going for a new system with I7 with 32GB hyperx ram . Now I had recommended to go for a workstation GPU but instead he is using 750Ti and facing some minor issues. but Way better in photoshop work ( speed ) due to 32GB of RAM.
 
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D@rekills4

D@rekills4

In the zone
16GB RAM 'might not be enough if you are running any image processing software and also 3DS max .. i mean when running Photoshop two jobs with 500MB or less size...and opening 3DS Max also for small rendering job ....the PC will slow down and take more time render.
I would say for a professional....min 32GB is would be needed.
One of architects whom I consulted did not listen first and went ahead and put just 8GB and system came to crawling low speed and then after 6 months installed 16GB and now after close to 1.5 years going for a new system with I7 with 32GB hyperx ram . Now I had recommended to go for a workstation GPU but instead he is using 750Ti and facing some minor issues. but Way better in photoshop work ( speed ) due to 32GB of RAM.



Thank you, but I think I am going to increase my budget a lot since I will also been needing CFD analysis in like a month or so.

System requirements for Autodesk CFD 2016 | CFD | Autodesk Knowledge Network

What would you guys recommend for CFD analysis?
 

bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Thank you, but I think I am going to increase my budget a lot since I will also been needing CFD analysis in like a month or so.

System requirements for Autodesk CFD 2016 | CFD | Autodesk Knowledge Network

What would you guys recommend for CFD analysis?

ProcessorIntel Xeon E3 1246 v323,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO1,700
MotherboardMSI H97 PC MATE
7,000
MemoryKingston HyperX Fury 32GB(8GBx4) 1600MHz
18,000
GPUAsus Strix GTX 970 4GB
28,000
Power SupplySeasonic SS650KM3 650w
8,000
CabinetCorsair SPEC-01
3,400
Internal StorageWD Caviar Black 1TB HDD6,500
Optical DriveAsus DRW-24D3ST DVD/RW1,100
MonitorAOC i2276VWM 22" LED IPS8,800
KeyboardLogitech MK200 Keyboard and Mouse
1,000
SSDSamsung 850 EVO 250GB8500
Total1,15,000
 
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D@rekills4

D@rekills4

In the zone
ProcessorIntel Xeon E3 1246 v323,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO1,700
MotherboardMSI H97 PC MATE
7,000
MemoryKingston HyperX Fury 32GB(8GBx4) 1600MHz
18,000
GPUAsus Strix GTX 970 4GB
28,000
Power SupplySeasonic SS650KM3 650w
8,000
CabinetCorsair SPEC-01
3,400
Internal StorageWD Caviar Black 1TB HDD6,500
Optical DriveAsus DRW-24D3ST DVD/RW1,100
MonitorAOC i2276VWM 22" LED IPS8,800
KeyboardLogitech MK200 Keyboard and Mouse
1,000
SSDSamsung 850 EVO 250GB8500
Total1,15,000



Man, your help is super awesome!
What if I increase my budget to 1.5 lakhs? Last time :D
I want a long term investment, not get a new PC every year. :(
 

bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Man, your help is super awesome!
What if I increase my budget to 1.5 lakhs? Last time :D
I want a long term investment, not get a new PC every year. :(

No need to increase your budget as the below config is more than enough for your present and future needs as well.

ProcessorIntel Xeon E3 1246 v323,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO1,700
MotherboardMSI H97 PC MATE7,000
MemoryKingston HyperX Fury 32GB(8GBx4) 1600MHz18,000
GPUAsus Strix GTX 970 4GB28,000
Power SupplySeasonic SS650KM3 650w8,000
CabinetCorsair SPEC-013,400
Internal StorageWD Caviar Black 1TB HDD6,500
Optical DriveAsus DRW-24D3ST DVD/RW1,100
MonitorAOC i2276VWM 22" LED IPS8,800
KeyboardLogitech MK200 Keyboard and Mouse1,000
SSDSamsung 850 EVO 250GB8500
Total1,15,000
 
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D@rekills4

D@rekills4

In the zone
No need to increase your budget as the below config is more than enough for your present and future needs as well.

ProcessorIntel Xeon E3 1246 v323,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO1,700
MotherboardMSI H97 PC MATE7,000
MemoryKingston HyperX Fury 32GB(8GBx4) 1600MHz18,000
GPUAsus Strix GTX 970 4GB28,000
Power SupplySeasonic SS650KM3 650w8,000
CabinetCorsair SPEC-013,400
Internal StorageWD Caviar Black 1TB HDD6,500
Optical DriveAsus DRW-24D3ST DVD/RW1,100
MonitorAOC i2276VWM 22" LED IPS8,800
KeyboardLogitech MK200 Keyboard and Mouse1,000
SSDSamsung 850 EVO 250GB8500
Total1,15,000

But the AutoDesk website has recommended so much higher configuration. I don't want to end up with a slow CFD analysis PC later. It takes days for analysis and if there is a mistake, I will have to start from the beginning and wait a few more days.
 
But the AutoDesk website has recommended so much higher configuration. I don't want to end up with a slow CFD analysis PC later. It takes days for analysis and if there is a mistake, I will have to start from the beginning and wait a few more days.

You should definitely get a Quadro instead of consumer level cards. And a SSD will make things even faster
 
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