Should I upgrade or not. If yes 35k PC or 60k PC.

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neo_natasha

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Thank you everyone. I am not reusing components from old PC, as I will use that as a Old rig. So I cant remove the 1 TB SATA 2.0 drive from it.

I suppose this fits the bill, I will go for this

cpu: i3-2100 @3.3GHz - 6.9K
mobo: GIGABYTE GA-H61M-DS2 - 3K
psu: CORSAIR SMPS-450 VS - 2.1K
RAM: Corsair DDR3 value 4 GB - 1.2K
hdd: wd carviar blue 500gb - 3.8K
monitor: LG 19" LED 1941 - 5.5K
gfx: amd hd 5570 - 3.2K (optional)


One last question. A friend of mine has the below setup, he is willing to sell that setup to me.

E8500 + Asus P5Q Pro + Asus EAH4850 Crossfire + 3 GB Corsair DDR2+ CM690 + CM 600 or 700w PSU + 22" Full HD samsung display + Wired Keyboard and mouse. + HDD (Unknown capactiy) + DVD Writer + Blu Ray writer + Creative itrigue 2.1

Will this be a better buy ? I dont want the blu ray writer and speakers, excluding that at what price would it be worth ? This is a 3 year old setup, mild use. Should I take this or go for the i3 based setup ?
 

akky89

Journeyman
Thank you everyone. I am not reusing components from old PC, as I will use that as a Old rig. So I cant remove the 1 TB SATA 2.0 drive from it.

I suppose this fits the bill, I will go for this

cpu: i3-2100 @3.3GHz - 6.9K
mobo: GIGABYTE GA-H61M-DS2 - 3K
psu: CORSAIR SMPS-450 VS - 2.1K
RAM: Corsair DDR3 value 4 GB - 1.2K
hdd: wd carviar blue 500gb - 3.8K
monitor: LG 19" LED 1941 - 5.5K
gfx: amd hd 5570 - 3.2K (optional)


One last question. A friend of mine has the below setup, he is willing to sell that setup to me.

E8500 + Asus P5Q Pro + Asus EAH4850 Crossfire + 3 GB Corsair DDR2+ CM690 + CM 600 or 700w PSU + 22" Full HD samsung display + Wired Keyboard and mouse. + HDD (Unknown capactiy) + DVD Writer + Blu Ray writer + Creative itrigue 2.1

Will this be a better buy ? I dont want the blu ray writer and speakers, excluding that at what price would it be worth ? This is a 3 year old setup, mild use. Should I take this or go for the i3 based setup ?

i3 is better then e8500 but other than that i think its better build...
you can add ram and you'll be good to go...
but wait... what premium do you have to pay for this rig will also be a factor....
 

panwala95

In the zone
yup agree with akky
that is a better config with a slightly weaker processor
other than that it seems fine
although do note that this rig will take huge gulps of power, not support dx11 although the dual 4850 should perform~a single gtx 570
it all depends on the price you get it for!
cheers !
 
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neo_natasha

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Theres no price fixed on it. I can fix the price. So I am not sure how much is it really worth. One good thing is I can name the price as the PC belongs to a very good friend of mine. What would be a good price and what would be a steal for it.

(Exclude the Blu Ray writer and the speakers, he bought it for an insane price.)
 

akky89

Journeyman
Theres no price fixed on it. I can fix the price. So I am not sure how much is it really worth. One good thing is I can name the price as the PC belongs to a very good friend of mine. What would be a good price and what would be a steal for it.

(Exclude the Blu Ray writer and the speakers, he bought it for an insane price.)

if he is your very good friend then you two can sit down talk about the price ... i mean how much he wants and how much you can pay... :p
other then that do you know at what price he purchased that system.. ?
 
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neo_natasha

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I was having 15 to 20k in my mind. I bought that PC and built it for him, its original cost could be around 60 to 70k. (Heck I remember him buying the blue ray writer for a hefty price) All the parts except the cabinet and SMPS were bought in US (Newegg).
 
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neo_natasha

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Well tried my luck, my friends okay for 30k as the original price we bought was around 78k. So I've decided to ditch this plan and get a full fledged PC for around 50k. No problem if I am not able to resell.
 

panwala95

In the zone
ok here you go-
i5 2500k-12.8k
gigabyte ga z77p-d3-8.2k
corsair xms3 2x4gb ram-2.6k
cm elite 430-2k
corsair cx 600-4k
galaxy gtx 560-10.2k
benq g2220-7.1k
wd caviar blue 500gb-3.8k
total-50.7k
 
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neo_natasha

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Great. I wont overclock, so I wont need a K series. So I thought I will settle for i5 - 2320 cheaper by 2k. Or is it really necessary?
-No idea about the motherboard. Any motherboard with 2 slots for a GCARD is welcome, since I am not going to resell I might add an identical card later on for crossfire. So I suppose this one will do?

Processor : Intel 3 GHz LGA 1155 Core i5-2320 or 2400 Processor - 10850

Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-Z77P-D3 - 8300

RAM : G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3-1600 4 GB PC RAM (F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL) - 2 X 4GB - 3400

Cabinet : CoolerMaster Elite 431 - 3400

PSU : Corsair Builder Series CX600 - 4000

HDD : Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB - 3800

Total 34 000 (rounded)

So if I push the budget to the original 60k I said, I still have 26k remaining for a Card (read 7850 which is power efficient as well), Monitor and a UPS. Would it be possible to upgrade to a LED backlit monitor plus a better card if possible or should I stick to this ?
 
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Myth

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Mobo : Intel DH67CL
Ram : Corsair 2*4GB DDR3 1333
Stick to single card setups.
For a cabinet, consider the NZXT Source 210 Elite
 

panwala95

In the zone
Great. I wont overclock, so I wont need a K series. So I thought I will settle for i5 - 2320 cheaper by 2k. Or is it really necessary?
-No idea about the motherboard. Any motherboard with 2 slots for a GCARD is welcome, since I am not going to resell I might add an identical card later on for crossfire. So I suppose this one will do?

Processor : Intel 3 GHz LGA 1155 Core i5-2320 or 2400 Processor - 10850

Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-Z77P-D3 - 8300

RAM : G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3-1600 4 GB PC RAM (F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL) - 2 X 4GB - 3400

Cabinet : CoolerMaster Elite 431 - 3400

PSU : Corsair Builder Series CX600 - 4000

HDD : Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB - 3800

Total 34 000 (rounded)

So if I push the budget to the original 60k I said, I still have 26k remaining for a Card (read 7850 which is power efficient as well), Monitor and a UPS. Would it be possible to upgrade to a LED backlit monitor plus a better card if possible or should I stick to this ?

read 50000-34000=16000 not 26000
for that much you can get-
hd 7770 @ 8.2k
benq g2220@ 7.1k
microtek heritage gold 600w @ 1.7k
total-17000
 
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neo_natasha

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Panwala mate, "So if I push the budget to the original 60k I said, I still have 26k " so 60 - 34 = 26. What do you suggest. Thanks again !

@myth I have built quite a few machines with multiple cards and all are working fine no issues. And I will buy only 1 card for now, the other later on.
 

akky89

Journeyman
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Panwala mate, "So if I push the budget to the original 60k I said, I still have 26k " so 60 - 34 = 26. What do you suggest. Thanks again !

@myth I have built quite a few machines with multiple cards and all are working fine no issues. And I will buy only 1 card for now, the other later on.

with that you can have
benq g2220@ 7.1k
SMPS CORSAIR 600CXV2@ 3.9
hd 7850 @ 16K
total - 27K

cheers!
 

acewin

Point Blanc
Intel DZ68DB Motherboard vs Intel DH77EB Motherboard vs Intel DH67CL Motherboard vs Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H Motherboard: Compare Motherboards: Flipkart.com
could not get a price check on gigabyte board; a lil comparision of boards, could not find any much better boards than intel DH67CL price wise
not sure how it goes now but as per chipset naming convention intel used follow Z series boards were server grade boards.

DZ68DB is cheapest Z series board, after that gigabyte, has additional firewire port

where as DH67CL has 1 (Processor Fan Headers), 2 (System Fan Headers)
2 additional system fan headers.

I do not see much good gigabyte boards if you are not OCing your rig. so choice would be in DH67CL or DZ68DB. Overall I see you save up 1.5K in DH67CL
single chip of 8GB RAM not dual stick not much here saving in the given 2x4GB, because RipzawX 8GB chips are also similarly prices
in RipzawX series itself there are so many module set that I do not know individual benefits.

spend some bucks on cooling and buying coolered fans, they look nice (increases PC experience :), also you can get a good CPU cooler
 
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neo_natasha

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Thank you akky. I meant UPS not a PSU :p. ace I may need a board with integrated graphics, please see below.



I am buying the following items tomorrow or this weekend.

Processor : Intel 3 GHz LGA 1155 Core i5 - 2400 Processor - 10850

Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-Z77P-D3 - 8300

RAM : G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3-1600 4 GB PC RAM (F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL) - 2 X 4GB - 3400

Cabinet : CoolerMaster Elite 431 - 3400

PSU : Corsair Builder Series CX600 - 4000

HDD : Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB - 3800

Monitor : Dell ST2220L or Samsung LS22B370H - 8600

UPS : APC UPS 600 - 2000



I am getting a HD 7950 from US, this could take a month or two.

Newegg.com - HIS H795F3G2M Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

or

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100352SR Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card


Two things to confirm

1. Is the PSU sufficient for a 7950

2. Will there be enough space to fit in the 7950 in the cabinet.
 

saswat23

Human Spambot
But why are you getting a Z77 board with i5-2400? Better get H67 or B75 board.

Not sure if cards from US will have warranty here.
 

akky89

Journeyman
Thank you akky. I meant UPS not a PSU :p. ace I may need a board with integrated graphics, please see below.



I am buying the following items tomorrow or this weekend.

Processor : Intel 3 GHz LGA 1155 Core i5 - 2400 Processor - 10850

Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-Z77P-D3 - 8300

RAM : G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3-1600 4 GB PC RAM (F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL) - 2 X 4GB - 3400

Cabinet : CoolerMaster Elite 431 - 3400

PSU : Corsair Builder Series CX600 - 4000

HDD : Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB - 3800

Monitor : Dell ST2220L or Samsung LS22B370H - 8600

UPS : APC UPS 600 - 2000



I am getting a HD 7950 from US, this could take a month or two.

Newegg.com - HIS H795F3G2M Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

or

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100352SR Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card


Two things to confirm

1. Is the PSU sufficient for a 7950

2. Will there be enough space to fit in the 7950 in the cabinet.

your welcome!
yes your PSU will be sufficient for 7950
and i think it should fit in the cabinet nice and easy.

and as saswat suggested you can save few bucks by using different mobo as you don't need z77 as its overclocking board you can go with h77 it will also be fine
rest its your choice...

and secondly
@saswat it will have warrenty but may be he needs to send it back to US for RMA process, which i'm frankly not supportive of...
if the product have international warranty then its fine otherwise you need to send the product back to US.
though it doesn't happen a lot in gfx's case but i can happen...
 
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neo_natasha

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Okay. Agreed, but I want a Crossfire capapble mobo, most of the H77 or H67 or B75 are micro ATX and dont have Crossfire.

This one looks good in Flipkart but out of stock.

Gigabyte GA-H77-DS3H

And if you guys dont support buying stuff from US, I would rather buy a 7850 right away. That costs 16k here, but for the same 16k I can get a 7950 from US.
 
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