S_V
In the zone
@OP
First of all, With your Monitor there is no point in using SLI or CF.. Becoz your monitor resolution is a wall for SLI or CF ,mostly depends equally on CPU and Vid card... (Sometimes depends on Game too)..
SLI or CF is used for massive resolution such as 1920X1080 or more.... So stick with single card for now..
SLI or CF,, Before you Buy, make sure your fav game supports SLI or CF... I am using SLI right now,, almost all my Fav games endup with no support for SLI or CF...
Not all games run perfect with SLi or CF becoz of game design.. Example Starcraft II wings of Liberty plays with only single card well and with SLI or CF ,, Frames suck..... There are many out there and both Nvidia and AMD are struggling to get good drivers for new games.. This is the Dark truth and 100% fact.. 3Dmark 2011 still doesn't support SLI ,only hacked drivers are able to run but system crashes...
YOU DON"T NEED SLI OR CF for your MONITOR. NOTE this point or else you will regret later for wasting money....
For you Nvidia 560 or AMD 6950 is too much right now.. Get it , you won't regret at all. All games will run max settings with your monitor.....
EDIT: Even for 22'inch monitor nvidia 560 or AMD 6950 will do better.... I seriously suggest you to stay away from CF or SLi.. No offence.. you will face lot of tensions for solutions to run games in SLI or CF...
SLI or CF ---> Heat, More current Bill, More Noise, SLI or CF issues wait for updates..
(if runs in SLI or CF,, Games are piece of cake in max settings)
Single ---> Less heat, Normal Current Bill,, Low Noise, No issues runs all games out of box. All is Well
(not all games run in max settings)
My Current Bill have suddenly increased 600rs for normal weekend gaming.... Imagine 10/7... then
First of all, With your Monitor there is no point in using SLI or CF.. Becoz your monitor resolution is a wall for SLI or CF ,mostly depends equally on CPU and Vid card... (Sometimes depends on Game too)..
SLI or CF is used for massive resolution such as 1920X1080 or more.... So stick with single card for now..
SLI or CF,, Before you Buy, make sure your fav game supports SLI or CF... I am using SLI right now,, almost all my Fav games endup with no support for SLI or CF...
Not all games run perfect with SLi or CF becoz of game design.. Example Starcraft II wings of Liberty plays with only single card well and with SLI or CF ,, Frames suck..... There are many out there and both Nvidia and AMD are struggling to get good drivers for new games.. This is the Dark truth and 100% fact.. 3Dmark 2011 still doesn't support SLI ,only hacked drivers are able to run but system crashes...
YOU DON"T NEED SLI OR CF for your MONITOR. NOTE this point or else you will regret later for wasting money....
For you Nvidia 560 or AMD 6950 is too much right now.. Get it , you won't regret at all. All games will run max settings with your monitor.....
EDIT: Even for 22'inch monitor nvidia 560 or AMD 6950 will do better.... I seriously suggest you to stay away from CF or SLi.. No offence.. you will face lot of tensions for solutions to run games in SLI or CF...
SLI or CF ---> Heat, More current Bill, More Noise, SLI or CF issues wait for updates..
(if runs in SLI or CF,, Games are piece of cake in max settings)Single ---> Less heat, Normal Current Bill,, Low Noise, No issues runs all games out of box. All is Well
(not all games run in max settings)My Current Bill have suddenly increased 600rs for normal weekend gaming.... Imagine 10/7... then
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Jaskanwar Singh
Aspiring Novelist
S_v he is going to use a full hd tv. Not a low resolution monitor.
vickybat
I am the night...I am...
@ jaskanwar singh
Be practical and think. Don't get carried away by emotions.
Do remember that the gtx 580 can be overclocked much more than a multigpu crossfire setup. Doing this , will definitely bridge the performance gaps. Overclocking in a multigpu setup is really a hassle.
Gtx 580 will have better support in physx based games and better tesselation performance than 6870cf which will be crippled in these scenarios. No point in spending 28k for 6870cf and not able to play with all eye candy on.
I think you are really blind and didn't read that link i gave properly. It was compared against a 6870cf and not 6970cf.
If you call me a fanboy, so be it. I won't leave this attitude especially when talking to you. I don't have to convince you at all but OP. He would be using a 22 inch monitor and no need for him to take the multigpu path right away. See his requirements and then post.
Here's a link for op regarding sli and cf profiles and pros and cons of a multigpu setup.
Check this
Totally agree with S_V for all the points he mentioned. "You nailed it bro".
SO THE CONCLUSION IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS:
If op has a budget , then its best to go for a single fast card like a Gtx 580 for its better consistency in performance over a multigpu setup which requires profiles for better scaling. This is a universal point of view and not mine alone.
If op is hell bent to start with multigpu right away, a gtx 560 sli will be a much better option if the expected price will be 15k for a single card which is pretty close to a 6870.
6870cf is not at all recommended with gtx 560 on the horizon. But a single gpu setup should be looked upon always to achieve a consistent performance.
Be practical and think. Don't get carried away by emotions.
Do remember that the gtx 580 can be overclocked much more than a multigpu crossfire setup. Doing this , will definitely bridge the performance gaps. Overclocking in a multigpu setup is really a hassle.
Gtx 580 will have better support in physx based games and better tesselation performance than 6870cf which will be crippled in these scenarios. No point in spending 28k for 6870cf and not able to play with all eye candy on.
I think you are really blind and didn't read that link i gave properly. It was compared against a 6870cf and not 6970cf.
If you call me a fanboy, so be it. I won't leave this attitude especially when talking to you. I don't have to convince you at all but OP. He would be using a 22 inch monitor and no need for him to take the multigpu path right away. See his requirements and then post.
Here's a link for op regarding sli and cf profiles and pros and cons of a multigpu setup.
Check this
Totally agree with S_V for all the points he mentioned. "You nailed it bro".
SO THE CONCLUSION IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS:
If op has a budget , then its best to go for a single fast card like a Gtx 580 for its better consistency in performance over a multigpu setup which requires profiles for better scaling. This is a universal point of view and not mine alone.
If op is hell bent to start with multigpu right away, a gtx 560 sli will be a much better option if the expected price will be 15k for a single card which is pretty close to a 6870.
6870cf is not at all recommended with gtx 560 on the horizon. But a single gpu setup should be looked upon always to achieve a consistent performance.
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Jaskanwar Singh
Aspiring Novelist
Vicky that 6970 i wrote by mistake.
Lol but u consider physx more important than fps. !
Where did u read 560 price of 15k. Its not even launched?
And its u who is carried away by emotions for nvidia.
Lol but u consider physx more important than fps. !
Where did u read 560 price of 15k. Its not even launched?
And its u who is carried away by emotions for nvidia.
Jaskanwar Singh
Aspiring Novelist
And give link for ur overclocking support?
S_V
In the zone
@mahatma
Even if you use 32inch,,, FULL HD means 1920x1080p......
@Vicky @ Singh
Guys, though it's none of my business.... With your CIVIL war,,, OP is really getting Confused and worries.. I am sure he might be refreshing this thread like 100 times per minute
...
I am sure you both are talking good points.... Lets not get carried away with these....
@Vicky
If GTX560 is around 15 or less,, I am so Doomed...
Even if you use 32inch,,, FULL HD means 1920x1080p......
@Vicky @ Singh
Guys, though it's none of my business.... With your CIVIL war,,, OP is really getting Confused and worries.. I am sure he might be refreshing this thread like 100 times per minute
...I am sure you both are talking good points.... Lets not get carried away with these....
@Vicky
If GTX560 is around 15 or less,, I am so Doomed...
@mahatma
Even if you use 32inch,,, FULL HD means 1920x1080p......
@Vicky @ Singh
Guys, though it's none of my business.... With your CIVIL war,,, OP is really getting Confused and worries.. I am sure he might be refreshing this thread like 100 times per minute
I am sure you both are talking good points.... Lets not get carried away with these....
@Vicky
If GTX560 is around 15 or less,, I am so Doomed...
u r dead right there... so shud i go for gtx 580.?
S_V
In the zone
First you tell me mahatma, how much gamer are you?
Do you know about AA or AF in games.. And what does they do? Don't search for them,, be honest.... What games you like (i didn't read entire thread,so asking).. Is it RTS, First person shooter ,online gamer etc. Also how much time you spend for gaming.. How crazy or just for fun type?
Then i will tell you what card u need there.....
Do you know about AA or AF in games.. And what does they do? Don't search for them,, be honest.... What games you like (i didn't read entire thread,so asking).. Is it RTS, First person shooter ,online gamer etc. Also how much time you spend for gaming.. How crazy or just for fun type?
Then i will tell you what card u need there.....
Jaskanwar Singh
Aspiring Novelist
And sv if u are talking of heat and noise and power of 6870cf and 580 u wrong. They same. Refer my post on previous page.
Gaurav Bhattacharjee
Tensor
This is Gaurav-Six-Two-Two-Delta-One.. Mahatma-Eagle-Eye do you read?
I repeat do you read? Over.
...[inaudible]..go ahead delta-one...this is eagle-eye...what's our orders?
The situation in your thread is getting worse. Worse than Modern Warfare 2 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 combined. Get out of there. I repeat abort mission. This is a full abort. Do you read? Over and out.
No seriously.. i havent seen a quarrel like this since my school days...mahatma is no wonder confused...
I repeat do you read? Over.
...[inaudible]..go ahead delta-one...this is eagle-eye...what's our orders?
The situation in your thread is getting worse. Worse than Modern Warfare 2 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 combined. Get out of there. I repeat abort mission. This is a full abort. Do you read? Over and out.
No seriously.. i havent seen a quarrel like this since my school days...mahatma is no wonder confused...
S_V
In the zone
Whether it is 6870 or 580 or whatever,, the heat produced by two or more Vid cards ,you can't imagine....
Yes,6870 cards are good in cooling but 580 is also not bad when considering its raw power.. Infact 5 series are very good in efficiency, heat, especially Performace... I think 6950 is much better than 6870 in cooling or performance....
Except Cross, single 6870 is really not that good infact it also didn't match up with 5870....
Yes,6870 cards are good in cooling but 580 is also not bad when considering its raw power.. Infact 5 series are very good in efficiency, heat, especially Performace... I think 6950 is much better than 6870 in cooling or performance....
Except Cross, single 6870 is really not that good infact it also didn't match up with 5870....
vickybat
I am the night...I am...
Its a universal truth about overclocking a single card and a multisetup. No need to convince you as i already said. Go find the links yourself. I am tired of your talks.
About fps, have you played a game that runs more than 60fps? If not witness the same and then continue talking. Don't follow reviews blindly but think practically like S_V pointed.
Fps matters but not that much if it gives more than 50-60 consistently for a card in its lifetime and across all titles.
@ Mahatma
Follow the points what S_V said and you'll find the right gpu. For the fastest single card, you have the gtx 580. Down the line you have gtx 570. Then comes 6950 and to be launched gtx 560.
I would strongly advise you to start with a single fast card and game even on a 32inch tv because it has same resolution as that of a 22inch monitor i.e 1920x1080.
No need and no point in going for a mutigpu setup right away by looking at benchmarks. Make it as an upgrade path later if you want to.
Read S_V's post properly and you will know the pros and cons of a multigpu setup. I am saying he's the right person because he owns a multigpu rig and has experiences with it unlike Jaskanwar singh.
Jaskanwar Singh
Aspiring Novelist
Vicky u talk as if u are a master here!
Have u tried at those fps or just putting out useless reasons!
And u know a lot of universal truths better keep them to urself! And plz stop putting foolish reasons to support urself.
Sv i think i am not talking of single 6870 but in cf and they are better than a single 580 or 5970. And 6870 costs 13.5k and 6950 18k! It is priced right for its performance.
Have u tried at those fps or just putting out useless reasons!
And u know a lot of universal truths better keep them to urself! And plz stop putting foolish reasons to support urself.
Sv i think i am not talking of single 6870 but in cf and they are better than a single 580 or 5970. And 6870 costs 13.5k and 6950 18k! It is priced right for its performance.
i know aa. dont knw af. I am crazy for games, except for rts.. Can play for hours.. have stayd up all night to complete NFS MOST WANTED, CARBON, CALL OF DUTY-4 etc.etc.etc. (at diff nights offcose) but nw ma pc suck, for all those awesome games out there... cudnt play CRYSIS even at mid settings also..
S_V
In the zone
@Jaskanwar Singh
yeah,, any high end will surely beat strong card when setup in SLI or CF... So i am not telling it's you wrong...
BTW,, trust me, CF or SLI are big problems for games especially with setups like HD TV like OP wanted...
If you want more info... please do read release notes of Drivers released by Nvidia or ATI... Especially in Known issues along with fixed issues.. They are really big headache though they run 90% games in max settings just like GTX 580 or 5970 (yep, it's that powerful though FPS will be low compared to SLI or CF)..
Also newbie like OP(no offence) will get confuse when games are not running properly in hopes that he can run all...... First let him experience some then attack games with SLI or CF...
I consider myself 4.5/10 in IT knowledge (Software or Hardware) ,, still i am troubling to run all games,lots of hacked drivers, lots of settings etc to run games in SLI....
yeah,, any high end will surely beat strong card when setup in SLI or CF... So i am not telling it's you wrong...
BTW,, trust me, CF or SLI are big problems for games especially with setups like HD TV like OP wanted...
If you want more info... please do read release notes of Drivers released by Nvidia or ATI... Especially in Known issues along with fixed issues.. They are really big headache though they run 90% games in max settings just like GTX 580 or 5970 (yep, it's that powerful though FPS will be low compared to SLI or CF)..
Also newbie like OP(no offence) will get confuse when games are not running properly in hopes that he can run all...... First let him experience some then attack games with SLI or CF...
I consider myself 4.5/10 in IT knowledge (Software or Hardware) ,, still i am troubling to run all games,lots of hacked drivers, lots of settings etc to run games in SLI....
Jaskanwar Singh
Aspiring Novelist
Ask asingh on this knowledge. He is running two 4890 monsters