Pentium 4 Extreme edition or dual core

[infra_red_dude]

for 5k

get a p4 2.8


dont think of AMD . u cant get any that beats P4 at 5k range (board +proc).

so invest the entire 5k on a p4 proc....

yes get the PD....As ur primary need is gaming so plz dont go for AMD....
for gaming intel last longs....

i beg to differ. there is no comparison between p4 2.8 dual core or PD wid x2 3600+!!!!! i dun think its wise to invest anything on the pentium range! if u can afford get c2d otherwise get the athlon x2 depending on ur budget. imho the binary choice wud be the best decision depending on budget.

 

[chesss]

Ch@OS is right go for AMD X2 3600/3800 if you are getting it < 5500

 

[nishant_nms]

Pentium D is a crap never go for it

 

[samanvya_ad]

will X2 3600+ brisbane core CPU work on an Asus A8NE motherboard(939 pin, nforce 4 ultra)
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yes get the PD....As ur primary need is gaming so plz dont go for AMD....
for gaming intel last longs....

Yeah Intel lasts long in gaming
(if u never play games)

 

[infra_red_dude]

will X2 3600+ brisbane core CPU work on an Asus A8NE motherboard(939 pin, nforce 4 ultra)

the brisbane core uses socket am2 (940 pins). so if the board is bases on 939pins, it surely won't fit in there!!

 

[Ch@0s]

will X2 3600+ brisbane core CPU work on an Asus A8NE motherboard(939 pin, nforce 4 ultra)
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Yeah Intel lasts long in gaming
(if u never play games)

If you are lucky, you can still find the older manchester 3800 X2 socket 939 CPU. Be ready to pay around 8-9k however for it.

 

[infra_red_dude]

^^^ no point in paying ~8-9k. it wud make sense to go in for c2d if u are ready to spend in that range.

 

[premsharma]

yes get the PD....As ur primary need is gaming so plz dont go for AMD....
for gaming intel last longs....

Lasts long ???? Untill you play any game. Infact Intel should be thankful to ATI for 101 & 102 motherboards. With those mobos atleast some games can be played otherwise intel are all crap processor till C2D and mobos almost all.

 

[on_the_rocks]

Lasts long ???? Untill you play any game. Infact Intel should be thankful to ATI for 101 & 102 motherboards. With those mobos atleast some games can be played otherwise intel are all crap processor till C2D and mobos almost all.

Donot know about the price performance ratio between AMD and Intel ..... But can surely vouch for intel if you considering Value for money....... In the sense that....... Overall intel boards have a better driver/ BIOS support then AMD... So they kinda excel in this field as their drivers are updated more frequently than AMD's.... There are so many types of AMD processors (athlon, sempron, thunderbird sledgehammer, duron ,turin ,operaton and what not....in market and to get a corresponding board is a hassel if your board burns out.. you will be in trouble as they are only readily available with cpu only and i know just a very little people who will stock an AMD board you see Bad for Business.......

Besides if you try to sell an AMD board and cpu then you will be in for a surprise a there are a very little or no takers for AMD !!!!!!! Specifically Think like that not many people in this forum will buy it as there will be a faster AMD ready to be taken for not much price.... which most people can afford... Now think of the real people who buy secondhand stuff.... reasons can be any just playing safe.... saving money and do not need a killer these are the people who do not even know about AMD........

I am just giving you a market perspective... Of course both will get the work done for you....... the choice is that how long you wanna stick with your system....???

 

[Ch@0s]

^^Obviously you have no brains. First of all AMD doesn't provide any drivers. Its the chipset maker that does. If you used a shitty via or sis chipset, then well thats why you are cribbing. Secondly there are only two types of CPUs in the market from AMD... Athlon 64 and Sempron and both run on socket am2. Thirdly every single vendor sells AMD. Infact 50% of assembled systems my dealer sells are AMDs. Finally about resale value... who buys PC components with resale value in mind . It has to be sold as junk no matter AMD or Intel heh. Fact is if one has money, spend on Intel Core 2 Duo which no doubt is the best CPU in the market right now. If one is on a budget, get an AMD athlon x2. Whatever the case, Pentium 4 and D are ridiculously slow and hot and not worth anyone's cash unless he/she has no brains like you.

 

[on_the_rocks]

^^Obviously you have no brains. First of all AMD doesn't provide any drivers. Its the chipset maker that does. If you used a shitty via or sis chipset, then well thats why you are cribbing. Secondly there are only two types of CPUs in the market from AMD... Athlon 64 and Sempron and both run on socket am2. Thirdly every single vendor sells AMD. Infact 50% of assembled systems my dealer sells are AMDs. Finally about resale value... who buys PC components with resale value in mind . It has to be sold as junk no matter AMD or Intel heh. Fact is if one has money, spend on Intel Core 2 Duo which no doubt is the best CPU in the market right now. If one is on a budget, get an AMD athlon x2. Whatever the case, Pentium 4 and D are ridiculously slow and hot and not worth anyone's cash unless he/she has no brains like you.

DID i SAY THAT AMD provides drivers......... The chipset providers does it .... I know that.... Silly me or is it you.... What i mean to say that..... The drivers for the chipset do not get updated frequently like intel does it... why do you think Nvidia rules... they keep on updating their drivers to remove issues and give perhaps greater performance to ....... this is common term in market when we refer AMD or Intel we always means both MB and Cpu and i even mentioned BIOS that should have been a give away what i was reffering to ......... OH YEAH I REMEMBER I HAVE NO BRAINS... But i guess the smart ones are gonna show us the way..... HAIL KING MOVE ON ... YOUR Humble servant are to follow...

When i came to this scene some two three years ago.... AMD's were suffering from heating problems now its intel i didn't get a memo saying that sorry dude missed it........ Are you going to hold that gainst me

Reality Check Dude: Every single person who spends his own Hard earned money cares about the Value for money and Resale of course Not talking about those who dig their fathers pockets....

Nothing personal i just gave a guy some perspective about the current market scenario It was for him to accept or reject ....... AMD VS INTEL.... I never claimed about knowing how amd works never used one and perhaps never will.... Read first line carefully........ Why the Heck you attack me like this for the people in the forum will agree that i never recommended intel something....... If you have something against me then DROP IT MAN
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[Rajibchakma]

Hi friends can anyone tell me the price of a Pentium 4 3.x ghz Extreme edition with hyperthreading, and the value of its L2 and L3 cache.
If I have the option Between (Pentium 4 extreme edition with HT) and (Pentium D processor).Which one should i opt, Keeping GAMING as the primary need.please Help.

Pentium D 3.4ghz is much more reliable and cheaper, go for it, though you will need a good extra fan for the CPU if gaming is ur primary option.
I have Pentium D 3.4 with Asus P5LD2-VM Mother Board with 2 GBB DDR 2 Zion RAM and 500 GB HDD with XFX 6200 (512MB) Grphic Card, its horse. I have Core 2 Duo also with the same configuration but with a newer MB But thats far behind Pentium D. Good Luck

 

[Ch@0s]

DID i SAY THAT AMD provides drivers......... The chipset providers does it .... I know that.... Silly me or is it you.... What i mean to say that..... The drivers for the chipset do not get updated frequently like intel does it... why do you think Nvidia rules... they keep on updating their drivers to remove issues and give perhaps greater performance to ....... this is common term in market when we refer AMD or Intel we always means both MB and Cpu and i even mentioned BIOS that should have been a give away what i was reffering to ......... OH YEAH I REMEMBER I HAVE NO BRAINS... But i guess the smart ones are gonna show us the way..... HAIL KING MOVE ON ... YOUR Humble servant are to follow...

NVIDIA Chipset drivers have never given me any issues... I've been thru 4 generations of nvidia chipset driver... NF1, NF2,NF3 250, NF4 SLI. Never had a problem. If you buy cheapo motherboards then well u'll get cheapo performance.

When i came to this scene some two three years ago.... AMD's were suffering from heating problems now its intel i didn't get a memo saying that sorry dude missed it........ Are you going to hold that gainst me

Again wrong second hand information.... The only hot AMD CPU was the thunderbird and palomino that existed in 2001-2002. Get your facts right before you post garbage. In 2004 (3yrs ago), Athlon 64 was out which is the coolest running CPU i've used till date.

Reality Check Dude: Every single person who spends his own Hard earned money cares about the Value for money and Resale of course Not talking about those who dig their fathers pockets....

Anyone who cares about value in the low end CPU market will go AMD.... eyes closed. Pentium D is the least value anyone can get... its hot, slow and a slow FSB bound. Check any hardware review site if you don't believe me .

Nothing personal i just gave a guy some perspective about the current market scenario It was for him to accept or reject ....... AMD VS INTEL.... I never claimed about knowing how amd works never used one and perhaps never will.... Read first line carefully........ Why the Heck you attack me like this for the people in the forum will agree that i never recommended intel something....... If you have something against me then DROP IT MAN
I am in sales i get paid because i talk........ At least you will never win me in

The whole point is your opinion is wrong... and its the duty of everyone else to make sure the thread starter doesn't get wrong opinion. So keep your sales to your birdbrained clients... don't confuse people who don't need ur advice which is not even worth a paisa.

 

[on_the_rocks]

The whole point is your opinion is wrong... and its the duty of everyone else to make sure the thread starter doesn't get wrong opinion. So keep your sales to your birdbrained clients... don't confuse people who don't need ur advice which is not even worth a paisa.

Are you Gonna Spank me for that.... Daam Staight man........ DO You Even Know What a Cpu Does in acomputer Before passing your judgement on Intel

OHHHH! i Remember That Intel pentium HT and PENTIUM D are For Brainless Peoples

An Appeal
TO ALL THE GUYS OF THIS FORUM THIS ZONE HAS A NEW KING Ch@0s AND IN ORDER TO BE NOT BRAINLESS.. AND BIRDBRAIN ........ PLEASE UPDATE YOUR CPU FOR C2D(INTEL ONLY UPTILL AMD COMES UP WITH ANOTHER) OR ATHLON AND YOUR PRESENT CPU CAN BE SOLD TO ME @ SCRAP BECAUSE THIS BRAINLESS FELLOW IS GOING TO TAKE IT TO HIS birdbrained clients AND WE WILL SIMPLY BE IN AWE OF YOUR SYSTEMS POST UPGRADATION AND ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT THIS FORUM'S NEW KING (thy highness words speaks for one and for all) HAS PASS HIS JUDGEMENT........ And other Dare not Speak (My mouth is already zipped)

FOR OTHER BIRD BRAINS LIKE ME OFCOURSE....
check this post by another member about insight to what a cpu does...
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46253


And others into money & stuff ..... Buy AMD shares from Nasdaq as post kings wishes AMD gonna Overtake 40bill $ Intel Corporation .........
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[premsharma]

@ on the rocks.... You are totally wrong. Nobody will need such advise. When I am talking about it, it is not simply I have all of these procys and mobo combination all along.

It is not that Intel is my enemy & I am Damad of AMD. Intell processors before C2D are just crap. Theior motherboards are equally bad i.e less feature, bad layout and ofcourse bad onboard graphics. Not to mention of OC & other advance features.

Intel boards are for entry level machines in their segments and not for professionals.

I don't think, it is wise for us to debate further on the point because the person concerned seems to be having either lack of knowledge & expertise or die hard fan of Intel.

I can not tolerate anyone talking about Dual Core, It is totall crap, even worse than P4 and it was only propagated to counter AMD 64 bit.

 

[on_the_rocks]

@ on the rocks.... You are totally wrong. Nobody will need such advise. When I am talking about it, it is not simply I have all of these procys and mobo combination all along.

I don't think, it is wise for us to debate further on the point because the person concerned seems to be having either lack of knowledge & expertise or die hard fan of Intel.

I can not tolerate anyone talking about Dual Core, It is totall crap, even worse than P4 and it was only propagated to counter AMD 64 bit.

Point taken man no more debates.... what i just said was that... i choose processor on the basis of only two things
1)if it will do the work for me?
2) what if i decide to let it go... where i stand...
if you look at the first page i too was intrested in knowing which one is better extreme one or dual core one..

I upgrade system once in a year or twice sometimes just for the heck of it i never go for AMD because i might get stuck with it for peoples ignorance towards this cpu.. or might loose too much cash on it.. my point was just that intel is preferred over amd if you consider resale value...

thats why i just said both (AMD & Intel) will do the job for you the only question remains how long you wanna stick with it.....

that @cho@s guy just attacked me without even understanding what i have to say..if he cannot interpret few lines in the post correctly i have seriously reservations what he does interpret after reading those review sites

some mouth on that guy... then i guess he is not entirely to be blamed for... if you know what i mean

I have done Btech Computer science and MBA CS IT (from UK) i have seen enough of the setups and mostly Intel seems to dominate the corpoarte world... they are seems to be the preferred systems down here... It gets the job done, its all that what matters here.. my prefrences are not based on some harware review sites, i meet lot of peoples and see lots of system i only make opinion about what i see (i have not seen many AMD systems) so cannot be sure of that ... Can vouch (say on basis of prior experience) that intel seems to be the popular brand.

I apologize and humbly retract my advise... now i get it. the forum is filled with computer enthusiast so my advise does not fit in here Performance here matters over everything else....GOT IT MAN...NO need to beat me up for that

About 64 bit computing , do you think that it can enhance performance... I am just asking for what i infer that 64 bit here refers to cpu registers memory and hence the instruction issued to them.. My Xp is 32 bit and also most of the softwares i use is 32 bits...
IF 64 HERE REFERS TO 64nm THREADS DO NOT KILL ME OVER THIS I KNOW THAT MEANS BETTER PERFORMANCE JUST MENTION IT IN REPLY..

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[premsharma]

I feel no fun debating. You are still getting it wrong. Corporate world or if more percentage of people using one product, not necessarily means that one is better. There are many compusions either. Intel leads the market, no doubt about that but they leads in cheating people too. Intel is having hard time to match AMD. Though 64 bit may not have much of difference, but Intel was forced to match it or trick it to match with them to retain market, which they were fast loosing AMD. Almost every review started indicating AMD for gamers & professionals. Now Intel has come up with C2D which is at par with AMD's X2 or even better. Very shortly a price war from AMD is expected.

Regarding qualification is one thing and to have access to different kind of combination of AMD & Intel is alltogether different thing. Passing judgement is only possible if you have enough number of machines in both plateforms and advance machines and not cybercafe setup. Here are on the forum some are Intel employees & some others are microsoft. MS headquarters had arround 60% of AMD setup.

Coming to resale value, no one has RV untill you try to sell them as new by cheating, if you have hardware shop.

The advantage for AMD is better onboard graphics because motherboards chips for AMD are by none other than two master graphic companies [ATI & Nvidia].

One point what you said is correct that AMD systems are not encouraged by local dealers and not popular. That is thing of past now. Margin for dealers & assemblers are more in AMD setup and slowely it is catching up.

As far as I am concerned, I never get a item, whether it is AMD or Intel in my place. Because my demands are very advanced. I go for MSI motherboards.

Most of the members here have got advanced machines and are gamers, which normal user or corporates can not dream of. These guys are very advance users and that is the reason they can afford to have a motherboard for Rs 14000, Antec cabinets for Rs 10000, SMPS from Antec, Coolmasters or Powersafe @ 3000 - 5000, UPS from APC @ 5000 and processors from AMD or Intel @ 12000 - 25000 and ofcourse the graphic cards. These users have come step by step to these levels evaluating all the products on their way to these monster machines and thus they have experience & right to pass judgement.

After all these are advises only, not forced upon. In the then end it is all your personal choice depending upon, price performance & availability and other factors. Personal liking for particular product is also there. Don't take to heart, these are healthy discussions which may proove to be beneficial to someone if not you.

 

[samanvya_ad]

Besides if you try to sell an AMD board and cpu then you will be in for a surprise a there are a very little or no takers for AMD !!!!!!! Specifically Think like that not many people in this forum will buy it as there will be a faster AMD ready to be taken for not much price.... which most people can afford... Now think of the real people who buy secondhand stuff.... reasons can be any just playing safe.... saving money and do not need a killer these are the people who do not even know about AMD........

If u try selling AMD..... dude u get much better price than intel...
i dont know the reason why but its true...
check it out anywhere, reason given is that in INtel technology becomes old the very next week

and burning of mobo's or processor's are concerned... that was a thing of past... and totally depends upon how ur dealer is or was....

like Asus n gigabyte boards n all get replaced or checked within (max) 1 week and AMD processors get replaced in 14days while time is exact double for INTEL n INTEL boards(of any company except asus n gigabyte) n tripple for anything of MSI, or XFX....
it all depends upon customer service of a company....

u cant blame it on AMD....
its a lame excuse
dude it all depends